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Dominic ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: January 02 2008 Location: Liberation Land Status: Offline Points: 651 |
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Thanks fellas. This is such a lively and warm thread, i need to come in here more often. I always enjoy reading everyones reviews. I actually get quite intimidated when considering all that's out there already, that i'm missing out on in such a venerable prog sub-genre. I feel like i'll never be able to spend enough time on each band to truly appreciate them all.
Anyways, seriously, most RPI expresses everything i love about audible art - sensitivity, grace, dynamics, playfulness, intensity, and most important of all, each sound is prominent and the compositions don't revolve around one musician.
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Bonnek ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: September 01 2009 Location: Belgium Status: Offline Points: 4521 |
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^ Can I just pop in to applaud this nice ode to RPI
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Finnforest ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: February 03 2007 Location: The Heartland Status: Online Points: 17304 |
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Agreed Bonnek.
Dominic, don't worry. Take your time and appreciate them slowly. It's not the largest subgenre around, so a person can really get to much of it over the course of a few years. Very glad to see you enjoying this thread, that's great! |
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...that moment you realize you like "Mob Rules" better than "Heaven and Hell"
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American Khatru ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March 28 2009 Location: New York Status: Offline Points: 732 |
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Finnforest ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: February 03 2007 Location: The Heartland Status: Online Points: 17304 |
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Vault!
Maxophone Maxophone Rock Progressivo Italiano Review by
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...that moment you realize you like "Mob Rules" better than "Heaven and Hell"
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Dominic ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: January 02 2008 Location: Liberation Land Status: Offline Points: 651 |
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^ I was listening to that just last night... one of the finest albums i've heard in my life.
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Finnforest ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: February 03 2007 Location: The Heartland Status: Online Points: 17304 |
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Fabulous vault pick, I love this one....
Inferno Metamorfosi Rock Progressivo Italiano Review by Jozef ![]() The album opens with "Selva Oscura", a dark brooding keyboard and organ driven track. After Spitaleri's superb vocals sing the opening lyrics, the keyboards kick into high gear alternating between piano and synth alongside some heavy guitar cruches. About 2 minutes the song already kicks into high gear with a fast paced synth solo which continuously alternates between synth, organ, and grand piano. Song two, the short organ based "Porta Dell'Inferno" is only a minute and a half long and sounds like an extension of "Selva Oscura" but serves as a point in which the listener enters hell itself. Song three "Caronte" is not much different than the previous two songs and it is here where the album tends to falter as it seems that these three songs would have fit together as one rather than three separate songs. Unfortunately this is common on this album but so long as you don't pay attention to the tracklisting and just enjoy the music, you'll be okay. Song four is the schizophrenic "Spacciatore Di Droga- Terremo" which opens as a slow vocal piece before the sounds of explosions distort the sound. The explosions lead into a jazzy bass and piano driven piece which moves into a slower pace once more with some lovely atmospheric wind sounds and piano solos. Song five is the baroque "Lussuriosi" with a harpsichord carrying the melody throughout the song and harmonious vocals surrounding it. This is actually one of the more light hearted moments on the album. "Avari" the sixth song has the best synth solo on the entire album even if it is only another of the "extension" tracks that lead off from the song before them. "Violenti" the seventh song has another chaotic series of synth solos that by now are familiar territory but still sound great on the ears. Song eight "Malebolge" is a dance on fire type of song where the listener feels they are sinking deeper into the depths of hell and it's one of the best songs on the album, sadly it suffers from being another one of those extended moments that should have been attached to the longer song before it. "Sfruttatori" is the ninth song on this album and continues the crazy keyboard insanity. The vocals are even more strained on this song and as if the vocals and keyboards weren't wild enough, it ends on a jazzy bass melody that sounds out of place compared to the psychedelic sounds from before. The tenth song "Razzisti- Fossa Dei Gigante" has a marching drum beat and a very rigid, tense keyboard part compared to the other more free form melodies on the album. Song eleven, "Lucifero" is where the listener meets Satan himself and has more of those haunting organ melodies that opened the album. We find ourselves at the bottom of hell here, near the very end of the album and the vocal performance is one of the best, almost as if Satan himself is singing. The final track, the aptly named "Conclusione" is simply another short keyboard based song with light vocals compared to the last bunch of songs that ends in a weird echoing sound, leaving the chaos of the underworld behind it. Metamorfosi had planned to record a sequel album called "Paradiso" but split before this could be done. This album would be released 30 years later in 2004 after Metamorfosi reunited. Despite the numerous short songs, which in my opinion should have simply been attached to the longer pieces, this is an amazing keyboard and organ driven album with some of the finest performances on those instruments. If you can find this piece of art, listen to it and listen again! |
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American Khatru ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March 28 2009 Location: New York Status: Offline Points: 732 |
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American Khatru ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March 28 2009 Location: New York Status: Offline Points: 732 |
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![]() I'm becoming fascinated by the Il Paese dei Balocchi album. I glimpse some of the things going on in the lyrical theme, but not nearly enough for my liking. Would someone who is either native Italian or well versed in the language please translate the album's track titles into English for me? I, and I'm sure others, would be much obliged to have this. Also to have deeper comment on the content of the tracks, if you care to take the time, would be excellent. In other words, what are they saying in this record? It seems to me to be a Pessimistic theme. Being a philosophical Pessimist myself, and understanding spurts of the language, I'm liking this album's tema already from what I can tell of it. Il Paese dei Balocchi 1. Il trionfo dell'egoismo, della violenza, della presunazione e dell'infifferenza (2:34) 2. Impotenza dell'umiltà della rassegnazione (4:09) 3. Canzone della speranza (3:55) 4. Evasione (7:40) 5. Hidden song (3:34) 5. Risveglio e visione del paese dei balocchi (4:40) 6. Ingresso e incontro con i Baloccanti (2:00) 7. Canzone della verità (0:45) 8. Narcisismo della perfezione (1:01) 9. Verità dell'intuizione fantastica (6:56) 10. Ritorno alla condizione umana (4:18) [Question: in track one, is that supposed to be "indifferenza"? Any other typos?] |
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Finnforest ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: February 03 2007 Location: The Heartland Status: Online Points: 17304 |
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I love that album too David.
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Finnforest ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: February 03 2007 Location: The Heartland Status: Online Points: 17304 |
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I love that album too David.
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Nightfly ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: August 01 2007 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 3659 |
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some great reviews there. Maxophone would probably make my top 20 RPI albums, Inferno - Metamorfosi; another good one, love the keyboards but i'm not crazy about the vocals and Semiramis is a classic! My own latest RPI purchases are Uno - Panna Fredda and Fiaba - Procession. Only played them once so far so I'll reserve judgement for now.
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Panna Fredda
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Finnforest ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: February 03 2007 Location: The Heartland Status: Online Points: 17304 |
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I think we featured Andrea's great review of this one not long ago, but since I'm doing a "Vault" series of recommended titles, and the first pass of the alphabet is covering the classics, this one bears repeating as an essential RPI title. Don't miss it if you are checking out this subgenre.
Zarathustra Museo Rosenbach Rock Progressivo Italiano Review by
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Nightfly ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: August 01 2007 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 3659 |
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^ An essential album if you can find it. I spent nearly 2 years looking for it before finding a copy at a reasonable price! However I think Todd said that a re-release is on the way, but it may be part of a box set if i understood correctly. Edited by Nightfly - April 18 2010 at 05:46 |
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New Review I thought you might like on a masterpiece
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Darwin!
![]() Darwin! hits the mark with some of the most innovative and experimental RPI Darwin! Is a real curio from these giants of RPI, their third album following two incredible albums that helped to put Italian prog on the map. Darwin! Is a full blown concept album that centres on the Darwinist belief system or theories of life on the planet, how we came to be here, disregarding creationism, and wholly encompassing ideologies of evolution. Banco thankfully do not attack God as such but take on this evolutionary ideology as a theory of how the earth, the universe was created – by sheer chance. Darwin refuted these ideas on his death bed, nevertheless it is an enticing idea, and I guess an irresistible one that many bands hold to for content. In the case of Banco they feature some interesting lyrical notions on the idea. Translated they state: Try, try to think a little different, nothing was made by the great Gods but Creation had been created by itself: cells, fibers, energy and heat. The earth is rolling into a cloud swelling, spreading in the heat its limbs the Mother is ready, she will bear she's already bowing her womb, she wants another son and she will have it, son of earth and electricity. Grey coats of lava and coral moist and without colors skies, here comes the world breathing musks and lichens, green earth-made sponges are the hothouse for the sprout that will come.”
So it is evident that judging from the lyrics there is no real attack on creationism, but it is a fanciful notion that Banco are adhering to. The music is as usual very accomplished ranging from ambient keyboard section and falsetto soft vocals to all out frenetic drumming and erratic keyboards and bass. There are some incredible tracks on this such as ‘La Conquista Della Posizione Eretta’ translated The Conquest of the Upright Position. It is an ambient synth soaked piece and very animalistic in texture and tone, in fact I thought I was hearing animal effects at times. The piece captures a feeling of being lost in a jungle surrounded by primates and only Banco can produce this type of music which is absolutely mesmerising. 'Danza Dei Grandi Rettili' can be translated as Dance of the Large Reptiles and is heavily influenced by jazz overtones with some captivating bass and piano. Indeed it is a soundscape capturing the imagination of when dinosaurs ruled the earth. 'Cento Mani E Cento Occhi' meaning A Hundred Hands and a Hundred Eyes is one of the masterpieces of the album. The dynamic interplay of keyboards and drums makes for some compelling listening. Francesco Di Giacomo adds his own interpretation of singing, which may be understood as more of a howling sound than actual words but it suits it perfectly. The tribal chanting and African drumming is enough to drag you out of this reality into the warped landscape of Darwin! Indescribable music certainly but it will convert you if you allow it. '750,000 Anni Fa...L'Amore?' is a very intriguing track centering on the theme of 750,000 Years Ago...Love?. It is a love song of sorts, being a lot more balladic than other tracks and in fact Francesco Di Giacomo tries his hand at some romantic crooning. It is so different than what we have already heard that it comes as a shock to suddenly hear this style, and therefore it is perfectly balancing the frenetic material; chaos has become order for a term at least and we needed it. 'Miserere Alla Storia' is Misery to the History and returns to the highly progressive style with sharp blasts of chords on organ and this is complemented by piccolo and acoustic guitar. On this track the words are half spoken and half sung by Francesco Di Giacomo. Not my favourite track but still a worthy addition to the album and a very similar style to King Crimson. The final track is a short rocker called 'Ed Ora Io Domando Tempo Al Tempo Ed Egli Mi Risponde...Non Ne Ho!' or you can translate this as And now I Ask the Time to Time and he replies...I haven't got it! Self explanatory really. The track begins with a donkey noise, a violin being dragged across with a bow very slow and creaky, I guess like the creaking floorboards of an ancient house. It is unsettling but once again draws you in patiently. The piccolo chimes in beautifully and Francesco Di Giacomo croons along in a low key style. And thus ends this incredible album. This album is one of the master works of RPI without a doubt and deserves a place in history as one of Banco del Mutuo Soccorso’s best albums. The artistry of the band, the virtuoso musicianship is second to none, though this is not my favourite Banco album. That honour has to go to their debut album. However this is highly recommended among the best of the RPI genre. |
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Kojak ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: April 03 2010 Status: Offline Points: 264 |
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Is a lot of this stuff quite difficult to get hold of...? I'll be in Italy next month, is it easy to come by over there?
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New Review on a bonafide classic!
![]() ![]() Banco del Mutuo Soccorso is the debut from one of the most influential Italian prog bands in history. The iconic cover is familiar to prog fans and signifies how important this album has become. Its main power stems from an unprecedented conviction to producing some of the most inventive and complex music, pure innovation on every track and some incredible virtuoso musicianship. The album spawned a plethora of other Italian prog artists hoping to do as well as Banco but succumbing to their sheer progressive spirit. PFM (Photos of Ghosts and Per Un Amico) and Le Orme (Felona E Serona and Uomo Di Pezza) were as influential among others but Banco del Mutuo Soccorso is one of the pioneering Italian Prog bands and their 1972 debut is an incredible triumph. The band perform astounding unified music but one of the main drawcards to Banco is the accomplished vocal prowess of Francesco Di Giacomo. When he sings in Italian it transcends barriers of language as the tone is always upbeat and hopeful. Another drawcard is the astounding keyboard wizardry of Vitorio Nocenzi and Giani Nocenzi who seem to trade off one another on every track to produce a refined beauty that soars and dives across the musicscape. The opening track is "In Volo" that announces their arrival with flute, spoken word and female choral sections with synthesizer. It is only a taster of what is to come. "R.I.P. (Reqcuiesant in Pace) is a huge change in direction as the pace quickens and the band go into full flight. Francesco di Giacomo has an incredible vocal range and really shines on this track. There is funked up guitar and some piano fortissimo in this jazz fusion triumph. The symphonic influence is prevalent and the track grinds to a halt and creates an ambience of beauty and serenity. At times the sound is similar to Mahavishnu Orchestra. "Passagio" features a prelude of piano and is really a transition to the next track. "Metamorfosi" is next on the menu and is a lengthy progressive masterpiece. The guitar and keyboards are accompanied with some sporadic drumming and there is a frenetic section of electrifying jazz. It soon peters out to a slow droning classical piece that focuses on piano. The peace does not last long as a huge wall of sound is created with chaotic iambic pentameter, arhythmical structures that elicit an alternative anti music sound. All boundaries are broken and the band go into extreme time signature changes. The bass lines and drumming metrical patterns are off the scale. This passage is the band at their best. Then it is bookended by another slow low key ambient section with strong melodies and tonal phrases. This is an incredible track and one of the best you will hear. Can it get better? It does.... "Il Giardino del Mago" is the opus, and this track has a stamp of authority sending out a signal to all others, declaring the sheer power of Banco del Soccorso Mutuo. The track almost has a running time of 20 minutes. But you will not notice this. It begins with gentle piano that transfixes you and the drums are a constant companion. It takes a series of rapid detours that will astound. It is difficult to know which direction the band will take next on this prog journey. There is an intricacy to the music that is compelling and the song tends to build to a crescendo with a freak out section of keyboards and crazy drumming. This track is worth a listen to the album alone, but there is more to come. The final hurrah is the outstanding "Traccia" which builds in depth and volume from slow beginnings to prog blasts of staccato piano. The vocals are more choral on this and it kind of says farewell to the album and ends the journey in style. I think the only thing I can add is that this is the best I have heard from the big three of the band; their first three albums. It is a definitive masterpiece hands down and Rock Progressivo Italiano would be all the poorer without it. Banco became RPI giants after these albums. Their debut is an important album, a quintessential album, a masterpiece. |
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Finnforest ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: February 03 2007 Location: The Heartland Status: Online Points: 17304 |
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Hi Kojak, in my experience, a good deal of RPI is available via the vendors on the RPI genre page. Of course some do go out of print for periods and then it's Ebay time. As to the brick and mortar stores in Italy, I don't know, but I would guess the big cities have stores that sell prog. But *most* items can be found online if unless they are temporarily OOP. Paul, I'm surprised that title is OOP, you would think the more popular ones would be around. I'm sure a juicy mini will happen eventually ![]() |
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Finnforest ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: February 03 2007 Location: The Heartland Status: Online Points: 17304 |
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Nice work Scott, I really dig those first 2 Bancos as well. Primo stuff. Love the way the guitarist plays, the dual keys, mmmm.
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