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WalterDigsTunes
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Posted: April 13 2010 at 21:08 |
Thoughts like that keep glenn beck afloat.
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RoyFairbank
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Posted: April 13 2010 at 21:08 |
Finnforest wrote:
We understand that. There's also nothing wrong with us referring to ourselves as "Americans."
Even Obama does it. "My fellow Americans" "The American people" et al.
We don't refer to ourselves as "United Statians" or "North Americans" and we never will. Sorry.
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your avatar is WAYYY too sexy, my friend. Please subdue it.  [note: Finnforest's avatar is of the sexy actress who plays the alien on V]
Edited by RoyFairbank - April 13 2010 at 21:09
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Atavachron
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Posted: April 13 2010 at 21:09 |
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As for Glenn Beck? Hate his guts. |
 interesting to hear from a generally conservative state ..I must say my distaste for Beck is dwarfed by the sickness I feel watching Hannity, and I think it's because he's such an utter moron. So is O'Reilly but at least Bill-O knows he's not the sharpest knife in the drawer, jokes about it and uses it to wide appeal. He's a pretty good debater as well.
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Finnforest
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Posted: April 13 2010 at 21:13 |
WalterDigsTunes wrote:
Thoughts like that keep glenn beck afloat.
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What's wrong with it Walter. That's what we call ourselves here.....Americans. What should we call ourselves in your opinion? Sincerely. I'm not trying to offend you. Should the president say...."My fellow North Americans"......??
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...that moment you realize you like "Mob Rules" better than "Heaven and Hell"
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Atavachron
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Posted: April 13 2010 at 21:14 |
Finnforest wrote:
Should the president say...."My fellow North Americans"......??
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and that wouldn't work either cause he isn't Canada's President
Edited by Atavachron - April 13 2010 at 21:17
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WalterDigsTunes
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Posted: April 13 2010 at 21:15 |
Finnforest wrote:
WalterDigsTunes wrote:
Thoughts like that keep glenn beck afloat.
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What's wrong with it Walter. That's what we call ourselves here.....Americans. What should we call ourselves in your opinion? Sincerely. I'm not trying to offend you.
Should the president say...."My fellow North Americans"......??
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It's the United States of America, a federal republic of states in the continent known as America. Now, what about everyone else in America? Non-Americans? Un-American? Where does that place Glenn Beck and his divisive us-and-them diatribes?
Edited by WalterDigsTunes - April 13 2010 at 21:15
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Atavachron
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Posted: April 13 2010 at 21:18 |
BTW I just voted 'paranoid', I think that best describes old Becko
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Finnforest
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Posted: April 13 2010 at 21:19 |
I'm simply telling you that people living in the USA, refer to themselves as "Americans" in conversation, without any second thought. Even liberals do. Nancy Pelosi, Michael Moore, and Barney Frank do it. Sorry you don't like it.
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thellama73
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Posted: April 13 2010 at 21:23 |
I've been trying to explain this or years. No one seems to get it. Countries are referred to by the last word in their official name. Hence "the kingdom of Norway" is called "Norway" not "The Kingdom." The United States of Mexico is called Mexico and The United States of America is called America. The fact that North America is also a continent changes nothing.
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Atavachron
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Posted: April 13 2010 at 21:26 |
good point, I rarely say the 'Russian Federation' either
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UndercoverBoy
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Posted: April 13 2010 at 21:29 |
Atavachron wrote:
gottagetintogetout wrote:
As for Glenn Beck? Hate his guts. |
interesting to hear from a generally conservative state ..I must say my distaste for Beck is dwarfed by the sickness I feel watching Hannity, and I think it's because he's such an utter moron. So is O'Reilly but at least Bill-O knows he's not the sharpest knife in the drawer, jokes about it and uses it to wide appeal. He's a pretty good debater as well.
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If "good debater," you mean "shouts the loudest."
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thellama73
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Posted: April 13 2010 at 21:30 |
Not as loud as Charlton Heston, God rest his soul.
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Finnforest
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Posted: April 13 2010 at 21:30 |
Exactly. People to the south or north can refer to themselves as Americans too if they wish. I don't care. But that's what we call ourselves and there's nothing wrong with it.
When I hear a president start a speech with "My fellow United Statesians", then I guess the 400 million of us who say "Americans" better change our ways.
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...that moment you realize you like "Mob Rules" better than "Heaven and Hell"
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Atavachron
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Posted: April 13 2010 at 21:32 |
gottagetintogetout wrote:
If "good debater," you mean "shouts the loudest." |
I should have said he's a good mass debater
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WalterDigsTunes
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Posted: April 13 2010 at 21:37 |
thellama73 wrote:
I've been trying to explain this or years. No one seems to get it. Countries are referred to by the last word in their official name. Hence "the kingdom of Norway" is called "Norway" not "The Kingdom." The United States of Mexico is called Mexico and The United States of America is called America. The fact that North America is also a continent changes nothing.
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Actually, that makes the crucial difference. Mexico and Denmark are discrete units within America and Europe, whereas the US just gobbles up the entire continent with its name.
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thellama73
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Posted: April 13 2010 at 21:37 |
Finnforest wrote:
Exactly. People to the south or north can refer to themselves as Americans too if they wish. I don't care. But that's what we call ourselves and there's nothing wrong with it.
When I hear a president start a speech with "My fellow United Statesians", then I guess the 400 million of us who say "Americans" better change our ways.
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United Statesians would have to include Mexico then. (insert joke about illegal immigration that makes everyone mad)
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jammun
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Posted: April 13 2010 at 21:40 |
They're all just histrionic talking heads, looking for ratings. They have nothing to say of any matter. The only thing they actually believe in is that latest paycheck in the bank account, that next book deal, that next lecture tour. I can't and don't watch it very often; it makes me ill. Any of 'em, not just Beck, but Olberman, Coulter, and all of the other ranting fools of any ideological persuasion. They're all morons or idiots:
moron n. 1. A mentally retarded person, specificlaly one having a mental age between 7 and 12 years old or an intelligence quotient between 50 and 75.
idiot n. 1. A mentally deficient person, having intelligence in the lowest measurable range, being unable to guard against common dangers, and incapable of learning connected speech.
The same goes for Whoopie and her crew.
Gimme some truth. All I want is the truth. In fact, go listen to that song.
Gimme Walter Cronkite, who every night would just calmly, if somberly, give us the latest Viet Nam body count, show us the latest videos of blacks being blasted by fire hoses, and who occasionally would get just barely emotional, such as when reporting that four students had been gunned down by the Ohio National Guard at Kent State. And then he'd say, 'and that's the way it is.'
Edited by jammun - April 13 2010 at 21:41
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Can you tell me where we're headin'?
Lincoln County Road or Armageddon.
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Finnforest
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Posted: April 13 2010 at 21:41 |
 It's just funny he believes that "keeps Glenn Beck afloat" when everyone in the GD country refers to ourselves that way, even the lefties. I'm still waiting to hear what we are supposed to call ourselves in casual conversation.....and at the start of presidential speeches.... Let's have it....
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...that moment you realize you like "Mob Rules" better than "Heaven and Hell"
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thellama73
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Posted: April 13 2010 at 21:46 |
Maybe I'm a naive idealist, but is it so hard to believe that someone on TV actually has political convictions? Why does everyone assume that everyone is just in it for the money?
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Atavachron
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Posted: April 13 2010 at 21:46 |
jammun wrote:
Gimme Walter Cronkite, who every night would just calmly, if somberly, give us the latest Viet Nam body count, show us the latest videos of blacks being blasted by fire hoses, and who occasionally would get just barely emotional, such as when reporting that four students had been gunned down by the Ohio National Guard at Kent State. And then he'd say, 'and that's the way it is.'
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fair enough but you do know Cronkite was a major liberal, and became more so as Vietnam escalated. Nothing wrong with that, Chris Matthews - who I think is the finest journalist around - also has clear leanings
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