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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 10 2009 at 10:26
Ya, the wall was even longer ago.
 
seem he lost his creativity  
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 10 2009 at 10:51
I agree. I'm listening to Radio KAOS right now and it seems Roger seems content to go back to "The Wall" instead of coming up with anything new. Maybe someday he'll surprise us ??  Thumbs Up
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 10 2010 at 09:09
As a Roger Waters diehard, I registered so I could contribute to this thread.

I need to correct a few mistakes. First, Waters HAS released material since his last concept album. For one he wrote a full classical opera! Either those who are saying he lost his creativity are unaware of this opera, or they don't consider it a creative effort. I don't follow that, but needless to say, I don't agree. He also submitted a full album last year, but so far it seems the record executives are sitting on it. If you want to hear pieces of it, you can find them around. It will have Each Small Candle from the In the Flesh Tour, and Leaving Beirut which he performed on tour the last time he came through. I saw the Seattle show and I loved Leaving Beirut. I bellieve the song he did for The Legend of 1900 is to be on that album, too.

So Waters has not been resting on his laurels, unlike certain former bandmates. He continues to upset the soulless minions of orthodoxy, believe me. Just go read the Wikipedia discussion page for Leaving Beirut. It's just a simple song about a nice memory from pre-war days, and he simply asks why we assume these people have no humanity, why we talk about them like they are not human, you know? But boy oh boy, that is all it took to rile up some people.

Now, as to the band, well, of the former bandmates, the keyboardist has passed away, and he and Waters had fallen out anyway over the former's cocaine addiction. The former drummer is still his friend. The replacement for the original guitarist, on the other hand, has released several solo albums using the Pink Floyd name. That is how this Roger Waters fan sees it. Your mileage may vary, but that's my opinion.

Roger Waters wrote The Wall. He also wrote Dark Side of the Moon, Animals, and pretty much all of the lyrics after Sid's breakdown.

As to the new band, they have been called The Bleeding Heart Band since the Pros and Cons Tour. The drummer has been Graham Broad since about day 1. Andy Fairweather Low has played guitar in this since Clapton chose not to tour. Waters on bass... that's right, he still plays his instrument... and keyboards have been shifted around now and then, but you can't complain about Jon Carin, when he can get him. So what's not to like? This is essentially the band who did the Pros and Cons Tour, the live Wall at the Berlin Wall... really, pretty much everything since Waters decided to stop working with people who contributed nothing to the music anymore.

I am really excited about this tour. I loved the Dark Side tour, and I hope he'll come back to Key Arena in Seattle.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 11 2010 at 21:26
^ Dark Side of the Moon was not wholly written by Waters. Granted, he did all the lyrics and the concept, but the music was made by the whole band, whici is ofcourse, for me, even more important than the concept (and I admire the concept of that album and really love the lyrics): Indeed Breath in the air, Money, and Brain Damage/Eclipse were wholly his songs, but Time and Any Color you Like are, if I recall rightly, composed by the rest of the band (Waters only contributing lyrics to Time, obviuously), and Great Gig in the Sky and Us and Them were Wright's babies, so indeed, without the rest of the band, this would have been a very different album and certainly wouldn't have reached half the success it really did (as a matter of fact, neither would have The Wall, for even if that one was indeed mostly written by Waters, the rest of the band at least pushed him to make it better - Specially Gilmour - and Gilmour co-wrote one of the most important tracks of the album and of the band: Comfortably Numb). As for Animals, that one is indeed mostly written by Waters too, but Dogs is Gilmour's baby once again, and that's by far the longest song, and for me the best (though indeed I love the whole album). So no, I don't agree Waters was all that Pink Floyd was about, the band worked at their best when all collaborated.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 11 2010 at 22:20
A guy who wrote a whole boring album about how much he hates fame is touring for that album YET AGAIN.

God, roger waters truly is worthless.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 11 2010 at 23:22
Originally posted by WalterDigsTunes WalterDigsTunes wrote:

A guy who wrote a whole boring album about how much he hates fame is touring for that album YET AGAIN.

God, roger waters truly is worthless.
ShockedConfused....may I suggest staying away from this thread then?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 12 2010 at 11:19
Official now.  First dates listed below. 

As rumored in recent months, Roger Waters is taking Pink Floyd's "The Wall" on the road this fall for a 36-date North American tour starting Sept. 15 in Toronto and wrapping Dec. 13 in Anaheim.
The show will be a state-of-the art affair, featuring a 240-foot-wide and 35-foot-tall wall constructed and subsequently torn down during the concerts. Other props and special effects are expected to be part of the show as well.

Waters is re-launching his official web site at 2 p.m. today with ticket sale information.

Released in November of 1979, "The Wall" -- which focuses on a disaffected young musician facing an existential personal crisis that reflected Waters' state of mind at the time -- spent 15 weeks atop the Billboard 200 chart and has been certified 23-times platinum and won a Grammy Award for Best Engineered Recording -- Non-Classical.

 

The North American leg of Waters' tour includes:

Sept. 15: Toronto (Air Canada Centre)
Sept. 20: Chicago (United Center)
Sept. 21: Chicago (United Center)
Sept. 26: Pittsburgh (Consol Energy Center)
Sept. 28: Cleveland (Quicken Loans Arena)
Sept. 30: Boston (TD Garden)
Oct. 5: New York (Madison Square Garden)
Oct. 8: Buffalo (HSBC Arena)
Oct. 10: Washington DC (Verizon Center)
Oct. 12: Uniondale (Nassau Coliseum)
Oct. 15: Hartford (XL Center)
Oct. 17: Ottawa (ScotiaBank Place)
Oct. 19: Montreal (Bell Centre)
Oct. 22: Columbus (Schottenstein Center)
Oct. 24: Detroit (Palace of Auburn Hills)
Oct. 26: Omaha (Qwest Center)
Oct. 27: St Paul (Xcel Energy Center)
Oct. 29: St. Louis (ScotTrade Center)
Oct. 30: Kansas City (Sprint Center)
Nov. 3: New York (Izod Center)
Nov. 8: Philadelphia (Wachovia Center)
Nov. 9: Philadelphia (Wachovia Center)
Nov. 13: Fort Lauderdale (Bank Atlantic Center)
Nov. 16: Tampa (St. Pete Times Forum)
Nov. 18: Atlanta (Philips Arena)
Nov. 20: Houston (Toyota Center)
Nov. 21: Dallas (American Airlines Center)
Nov. 23: Denver (Pepsi Center Arena)
Nov. 26: Las Vegas (MGM Grand Garden Arena)
Nov. 27: Phoenix (US Airways Center)
Nov. 29: Los Angeles (The Forum)
Dec. 1: Los Angeles (The Forum)
Dec. 6: San Jose (HP Pavilion)
Dec. 10: Vancouver (General Motors Place)
Dec. 11: Tacoma (Tacoma Dome)
Dec. 13: Anaheim (Honda Center)


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 12 2010 at 11:46
^ Noooo, he never comes to Finland it's not fair Cry

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 12 2010 at 12:04
I don't need to see Waters do The Wall live.  He is coming to Atlanta though.

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Edited by Slartibartfast - April 12 2010 at 12:05
Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 12 2010 at 12:16
Same here Brian.

I love the Wall, gave it 5 stars.  Would have killed to see the original shows.  But I just don't have the desire to spend $300 for us to see a 65 year old guy croak through the material with a band of non-Floyds.  I can have much more fun in my living room with a DVD for 10% of the price, plus have the advantage of better sound, better views, cheaper/better drinks, no parking nightmare, and way less hassle. 


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 12 2010 at 13:11
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 12 2010 at 13:22
Roy, I still won't go......but I loved your postClapLOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 12 2010 at 13:23
Looks like it's 2011 for the UK then?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 12 2010 at 14:36
Originally posted by RoyFairbank RoyFairbank wrote:

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I AM THE BIGGEST ROGER WATERS FAN IN THE UNIVERSE (well up there anyway) (at least top 100) (1000)

I WILL SEE THIS SHOW!

I've only gone to a handful of concerts in my life - one was to see Rog!

and best of all people

Roger Waters is soooooo a socialist

not as good as a socialist as me,

but prettty good

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and this is SOOOOOOOO gonna be a socialist version of the wall

just read his site

yeahhh-yuh!

edit 3:

Roger waters rocks

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and rolls

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www.wsws.org

www.rogerwaters.com

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from his site:
"HUMANS need the protection of THE RULE OF LAW. The trick would be for US to agree upon what THE LAW should be NOW, (something WE have been working on for a few hundred years), but also to agree that as WE develop OUR understanding of both OURSELVES and OUR surroundings, WE will have insights and may need to modify THE LAWS that govern US. THE LAW should not be written in STONE. Please take note all followers of MOSES and other dead prophets.

Which leads me neatly to my next point.

In my view.

RELIGION provides A WALL between US and the reality of OUR lives.

Also,

There is a WALL between:

RICH and POOR,

NORTH and SOUTH

THE OLD and NEW WORLDS and THE THIRD WORLD

It is A WALL of FEAR and GREED

There is enough of everything in THE WORLD for us all to have enough to eat, to be warm and dry and to have a colour TV and a car. WE are taught to FEAR that if WE share what WE have with THEM, WE won’t have anything left for US.

WE also FEAR that THEY may try to take what WE have away from US, so WE spend WAY more than THEY would need to feed, house, clothe, and EDUCATE THEMSELVES, on weapons to prevent THEM from taking what WE have away from US.

There is another WALL between US and the reality of OUR lives.

This WALL is called the THE MEDIA. This WALL is a tool that is used to divert US from inconvenient truths.

Perhaps I should stop now, before I alienate anybody."


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edit 8: wrote about edit 7

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A strong supporter is RW that the obscene Wall of Israel gets knocked down too. I saw RW live in 2002. I understand the frustration of some fans wanting new material but hey the guy is 66 almost and The Wall is very relevant in a number of contexts so I am sure people will enjoy. $300 does sound obscene however even for a socialistWink
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 14 2010 at 22:52
Waters already said Europe will be toured too, 52 dates or something like that, but the dates were not given yet (surely they will be for 2011). He also said he wanted to tour Latin America and other parts of the world, but that isn't confirmed yet.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 15 2010 at 09:59
OH MY GOD HE'S DOING A CONCERT IN KANSAS CITY!!! Thumbs UpRawks
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 17 2010 at 19:47
Originally posted by The Truth The Truth wrote:

OH MY GOD HE'S DOING A CONCERT IN KANSAS CITY!!! Thumbs UpRawks


OH MY GOD HE'S DOING A CONCERT IN OMAHA!!!

As a guy who never gets to see any prog live, I might consider going.  I'll take one of my many friends who also loves prog!  The ones who live only in my dreams.Cry
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 31 2010 at 00:03
I've seen Pink Floyd two times without Waters. I have also seen Roger Waters two times without Pink Floyd.
If I had to choose what to see again, I would easily opt for Roger Waters.
In fact I have my tickets to see his The Wall in San Jose, CA.
And I don't believe Waters needs the name Pink Floyd in his shows. Most people see him as the creative force behind Floyd.
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