A health care question...

"profit" is an interesting idea--  Richard Nixon always said he never 'profited' from his work in government, which as a lawyer he meant he'd never earned more than what he'd worked for.. so to him, profit meant something significantly beyond an established payment for services

 

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Edited by Slartibartfast - April 05 2010 at 19:43

I don't know if the Obama plan is the best, but no one else offered anything different than the status quo. Obama is the only one who stepped up to the plate and made something different happen.

To throw up unproven platitudes like 'if it is run by the government it must be bad' is just nonsense. If our government is so inept, how did we end up with about the best military in the world.

Easy Money wrote: I don't know if the Obama plan is the best, but no one else offered anything different than the status quo. Obama is the only one who stepped up to the plate and made something different happen. To throw up unproven platitudes like 'if it is run by the government it must be bad' is just nonsense. If our government is so inept, how did we end up with about the best military in the world.

Because of government-run programs, John!

Oh wait, no.

Because of corporations who have government contracts, like http://www.lockheedmartin.com/

Easy Money wrote:   If our government is so inept, how did we end up with about the best military in the world.

Because of corporations who have government contracts, like http://www.lockheedmartin.com/[/QUOTE]

Easy Money wrote:   Wrong again Rob, our military is not run by Lockheed, it is run by the government of the USA.

John, I swear, you should run for president with that slogan ("WRONG AGAIN ROB!"), but look carefully here.

The government runs the military yes, but were it not for private corporations, they would not have the best fighter jets, for example, to make them great.  Men with swords and horses won't cut it anymore.

Epignosis wrote: Easy Money wrote:   If our government is so inept, how did we end up with about the best military in the world. Because of corporations who have government contracts, like http://www.lockheedmartin.com/

Easy Money wrote:   Wrong again Rob, our military is not run by Lockheed, it is run by the government of the USA.

John, I swear, you should run for president with that slogan ("WRONG AGAIN ROB!"), but look carefully here.The government runs the military yes, but were it not for private corporations, they would not have the best fighter jets, for example, to make them great.  Men with swords and horses won't cut it anymore.[/QUOTE]


Yes, and our brave new medical world will have needles and thermometers and crazy trick reclining beds and drugs and lots of other neat stuff made by private companies, but calling the shots will be our elected officials headed by our Commander-in-Chief, the same folks who call the shots in the military.

Edited by Easy Money - April 05 2010 at 20:23

Easy Money wrote: Yes, and our brave new medical world will have needles and thermometers and crazy trick reclining beds and drugs and lots of other neat stuff made by private companies, but calling the shots will be our elected officials headed by our Commander-in-Chief, the same folks who call the shots in the military.

So the legislature and the President will get to decide if my hemorrhoids get repaired or not.  Nice.

(Interesting how you don't mention what role the judicial system will play in fixing up my colon...)

Easy Money wrote: Padraic wrote: Easy Money wrote: Yes, and our brave new medical world will have needles and thermometers and crazy trick reclining beds and drugs and lots of other neat stuff made by private companies, but calling the shots will be our elected officials headed by our Commander-in-Chief, the same folks who call the shots in the military. Sound great!   What could possibly go wrong? Who do you propose would do a better job and has a proven track record to back it up.

No, you're right.  The federal government is the very quintessence of efficiency and excellence.

Proven track record of doing what?


Edited by Padraic - April 05 2010 at 20:33

Padraic wrote: Easy Money wrote: Padraic wrote: Easy Money wrote: Yes, and our brave new medical world will have needles and thermometers and crazy trick reclining beds and drugs and lots of other neat stuff made by private companies, but calling the shots will be our elected officials headed by our Commander-in-Chief, the same folks who call the shots in the military. Sound great!   What could possibly go wrong? Who do you propose would do a better job and has a proven track record to back it up. No, you're right.  The federal government is the very quintessence of efficiency and excellence.

Lets take this further, did anyone else come up with an idea to save us from price gouging at the hands of the insurance industry? Something actually workable that our elected officials felt strongly enough about to vote for?

Easy Money wrote: Padraic wrote: Easy Money wrote: Padraic wrote: Easy Money wrote: Yes, and our brave new medical world will have needles and thermometers and crazy trick reclining beds and drugs and lots of other neat stuff made by private companies, but calling the shots will be our elected officials headed by our Commander-in-Chief, the same folks who call the shots in the military. Sound great!   What could possibly go wrong? Who do you propose would do a better job and has a proven track record to back it up. No, you're right.  The federal government is the very quintessence of efficiency and excellence. Lets take this further, did anyone else come up with an idea to save us from price gouging at the hands of the insurance industry? Something actually workable that our elected officials felt strongly enough about to vote for?

I did.  But nobody listened to me.