A health care question...

The T wrote: The Doctor wrote: There's an ad at the top of the page that says "Obama Too Radical?"  No damnit.  He's not radical enough.  Anyway, I'm sure he can't be.

Interesting.

My banner ad says, "Would you save a world that doesn't want you in it?"

@Teo - doctors, hospitals, and service providers are definitely running under a capitalist model. Some make crazy amounts of money. Certainly pharmaceutical companies get alot of press for their profits as well. It's not just insurance companies. And we doctors complain and moan about it all the time but personal injury attorneys are part of the economics of medicine.

Edited by Negoba - March 24 2010 at 15:05

So I'm watching Countdown With Keith Olberman (on personal leave his Dad just died).  Barney Frank was just on to discuss all the threats that some Representatives and Senators are getting for voting for health reform.  He said the doesn't get many death threats, mostly after death threats.

If you haven't been following the news the teabaggers have become really sore losers. 

The Dems in the Senate have been smacking down Reps attempts at final derailment of reconciliation through amendment abuse.

Fox Noise, which spent so much time and effort smearing the legislation could only be bothered with a few seconds of coverage for the Presidential signing.

As people are getting the facts about what is actually in the legislation, public approval ratings are going up.


Edited by Slartibartfast - March 24 2010 at 19:33

yeah these people are basically inciting assassination, and if there's a serious incident of violence, I want them all to stand-up and take a small amount of responsibility ..  which of course they won't (except for the really crazy ones proudly bearing their Glock 22s and "Don't Tread on Me" flags)

The bit of 'rebellion' that strikes me as the most pointless is the call to ignore the census, which is basically shooting yourself in the foot when it comes to how federal funds will be allocated.

Slartibartfast wrote: So I'm watching Countdown With Keith Olberman (on personal leave his Dad just died).  Barney Frank was just on to discuss all the threats that some Representatives and Senators are getting for voting for health reform.  He said the doesn't get many death threats, mostly after death threats. If you haven't been following the news the teabaggers have become really sore losers.  The Dems in the Senate have been smacking down Reps attempts at final derailment of reconciliation through amendment abuse. Fox Noise, which spent so much time and effort smearing the legislation could only be bothered with a few seconds of coverage for the Presidential signing. As people are getting the facts about what is actually in the legislation, public approval ratings are going up.

Easy Money wrote: Qboyy007 wrote: Slartibartfast wrote: So I'm watching Countdown With Keith Olberman (on personal leave his Dad just died).  Barney Frank was just on to discuss all the threats that some Representatives and Senators are getting for voting for health reform.  He said the doesn't get many death threats, mostly after death threats.If you haven't been following the news the teabaggers have become really sore losers.  The Dems in the Senate have been smacking down Reps attempts at final derailment of reconciliation through amendment abuse.Fox Noise, which spent so much time and effort smearing the legislation could only be bothered with a few seconds of coverage for the Presidential signing.As people are getting the facts about what is actually in the legislation, public approval ratings are going up. Watching MSNC and saying Fox News is bad makes you just as stupid as them.  You do realize you are the only person in this thread that includes a personal insult with almost every post.

Did I mention that his Mother was hamster and his Father smelt of elderberries?

Qboyy007 wrote: Watching MSNC [sic sick sic on this] and saying Fox News is bad makes you just as stupid as them.

Did I mention that MSNBC did fire Phil Donahue for not supporting the Iraq war.  Doesn't that make you happy?


Edited by Slartibartfast - March 24 2010 at 20:36

this Scott Brown/Rachel Maddow mix-up is hilarious  

Atavachron wrote: yeah these people are basically inciting assassination, and if there's a serious incident of violence, I want them all to stand-up and take a small amount of responsibility ..  which of course they won't (except for the really crazy ones proudly bearing their Glock 22s and "Don't Tread on Me" flags)

Just read about the Rep who got a gas line cut - it was from the propane tank to his outdoor grill.

I mean, you can really be disappointed, even disgusted with the new bill, but give me a fracking break.

The T wrote: Equality 7-2521 wrote: I guess that by itself is really out of context. Its just a line of his that's always stuck out to me. In an age when profits and those who make them are demonized I think its always refreshing to reflect on the importance of profit especially as a means of allocating capital. The quote comes from here, this 1920 publication: http://query.nytimes.com/mem/archive-free/pdf?res=9D05E5DA1639E133A2575BC2A9679D946195D6CF I read it. It's coherent. But what I fail to see is how health care should also fall in this "for profit" spirit. It demands skills, of course. But is there a proper "capitalist" that puts the others to work here? The only capitalist in the health care industry, to give it that name, is the Insurance companies, who are the only ones making a real profit (the doctors have a good standard of living, but nothing compared to the shareholders and ceo's of the Insurance companies). I fail to see health care as a "business", that's all. Of course, for other fields, for other things in economical life, profit is necessary. I'm not a communist please. I'm just a free-market socialist...  Anyway, we should also cut another phrase from Coolidge's words: "they [evil forces](...) claim (...)the denial that man have any obligations toward each other"... In that text the least I see is an apologetic view of heartless individualism....