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threefates
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Posted: October 13 2004 at 14:43 |
Fitzcarraldo wrote:
Hey, threefates, did you by any chance know that Ginastera studied music with Copeland in the States? |
Hadn't heard that, but it doesn't surprise me.
Fitzcarraldo wrote:
Boy, your obsession with ELP extends to all the classical composers that ELP 'borrowed from'! But given Emerson's great piano work, I'm a little surprised you did not mention some of the other composers famous for their wonderful piano compositions. |
Actually you are right... but the one I failed to mention (so I'm slapping myself) is Keith himself... I love his Piano Concerto... and can't wait till he's finished the second one.
Fitzcarraldo wrote:
Not that I'm trying to influence you, but I would not mind betting that Emerson rather admires the likes of Rachmaninov just to name one - Emerson sometimes seemed to emulate his style. |
Actually Keith was always more trying to get me into Dave Brubeck, but I resisted.
Fitzcarraldo wrote:
I would have loved to hear ELP cover some of Ginastera's compatriot Astor Piazzolla. I reckon an ELP version of Libertango or Adios Nonino would have been excellent. Maybe you might like to suggest it to Emerson next time you bump into him. |
I'll probably see him at the end of the month in Chicago.. if I remember, I will
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Cesar Inca
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Posted: October 13 2004 at 16:04 |
I love all the listed ones, and I even worship some of them: but I had only one shot, and my vote went to Tchaikovsky. I just can't resist his crystal clear and determined sense of melody, though at times he may sound a bit corny or "excessively romantic"... I just can't resist it.
And when he became dense, that is, when he wrote his last Symphony, the NO. 6, oh brother, has classical music ever been so sad in the most tormented sense of the word (except for Mov. 3).
I wish I could have voted for them all, but well, Tchaikovsky is the one.
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oliverstoned
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Posted: October 14 2004 at 01:07 |
O, yes i love him too
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Cesar Inca
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Posted: October 14 2004 at 08:40 |
Fitzcarraldo wrote:
I would have loved to hear ELP cover some of Ginastera's compatriot Astor Piazzolla. I reckon an ELP version of Libertango or Adios Nonino would have been excellent... |
Hi Fitz, this is César Mendoza.
The closer you may get to that kind of thing is provided by the eponymous debut album of the Argentinian band ALAS (released in 1976 or 77, right away I don't remember exactly) - picture a mixture of ELP-ish power trio sound with RtF-ish jazz fusion, with lots of hints fo Piazzolla, and even some hints of 'One Size Fits All'-era Zappa... and you'll realize what I mean.
Just a suggestion.
This thread is about classical composers. I voted on Tchaikovsly, but I also adore Beethoven, Bach, Prokofiev, Mussorgsky, Grieg, Bartok, Haendel, Chopin, Vivaldi...
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richardh
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Posted: October 15 2004 at 19:26 |
Andrew Lloyd Webber (sorry I'm in a silly mood)
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goose
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Posted: October 16 2004 at 13:05 |
Wagner, Mahler, Orff, Mussorgsky, some of Dvorak, Schubert, perhaps Verdi.
Mainly things epic and loud, or with big cello bits in, I find.
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goose
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Posted: October 16 2004 at 13:06 |
Oh Tchaikovsky and Rachmaninov as well.
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tuxon
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Posted: October 22 2004 at 22:38 |
Rossinni
Tsjaikovski
Mozart
Orff
With the exception of Carl Orff (Carmina burana) I can't stand the singing parts, so no Opera's for me, just the ouvertures and the music
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Pixel Pirate
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Posted: October 23 2004 at 04:36 |
Haydn,Beethoven and Bartok.
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Odi profanum vulgus et arceo.
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oliverstoned
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Posted: October 23 2004 at 05:43 |
I'm amazed i've been the only one to quote Ravel.
i realize how under-estimated he is...
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Pixel Pirate
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Posted: October 23 2004 at 07:46 |
I really like Ravel too, but for me he just can't reach the lofty heights of the big boys,interesting though most of his music is. My favourite of the French composers would have to be Satie. Actually when Ravel died someone(I can't remember who) said: Ravel was allright,but he was no Satie.
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Odi profanum vulgus et arceo.
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oliverstoned
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Posted: October 23 2004 at 09:22 |
For me, he'sone of the VERY BEST
Satie is great too
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Vibrationbaby
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Posted: October 23 2004 at 10:55 |
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dude
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Posted: October 23 2004 at 11:03 |
HEY,I LOVE CLASSICAL MUSIC
PINK FLOYD,GONG, ELP...........
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Pixel Pirate
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Posted: October 23 2004 at 12:49 |
I'm playing the Jupiter symphony right now,Vibrationbaby!
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Odi profanum vulgus et arceo.
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karansaraf
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Posted: October 23 2004 at 13:05 |
From that list, Mozart, because he was the biggest musical genius from
that list. He composed/thought of music at the speed it would
take us to write out music we know very well (ie. write it out fast).
Others - Bach, Vivaldi, Bartok.
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Jessica Alba > Your Girlfriends
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Reed Lover
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Posted: October 23 2004 at 13:45 |
Where's Prokofiev??
The hard-man of 20th Century composers,always pushing the boundaries with his music,and always cocking a snoop to negative criticism.This is a man who,during the First World War wrote magical compositions for piano without having a piano available to him most of the time!
His Classical Symphony is a must for all those tempted to "click" on Haydn above.
Try this wonderful recording for size.
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artbass
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Posted: October 24 2004 at 13:14 |
I grew up with classical music but never had a real favourite for a long time. During the last months I explored 'The Planets' by Holst - well, now I know from where John Williams took his ideas for the Star Wars-score. Along with Holst I picked up Grieg and Mussorgsky.
Looks like I'm in a romantic mood at the moment...
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she feels wind around her
she feels a warming sun
she feels some raindrops wet her leaves
since that time she lost her griefs
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arcer
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Posted: October 24 2004 at 15:37 |
Arvo Part - fantastic minimalist Estonian composer
John Tavener - check out his album Svyati
Phillip Glass - Piano works and his recent soundtrack to 'The Hours' is very cool
Ravel and Debussy rock too
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Ivan_Melgar_M
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Posted: October 24 2004 at 16:37 |
It's a hard question, who can forget Mozart, Beethoven, Johan Sebastian Bach, etc, but I always had a weakness for the members of The Might7y Handfull (Cui, Boorodin, Roimski Korsakov, Mussorgski and Balakirev) as well as the Russian Nationalist movement of the late Romatic/Modern Classical era.
They had the b*lls to break with Europe and create the music they wanted without caring for anything except for art, IMO they are the real predecessors of Progressive Rock.
While Johan Strauss Jr. (The 19th Century Glenn Miller) was making Viena and the whole Europe dance with his simple waltzes and earning big bucks, the Russians were making serious music despite they were almost starving.
Iván
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