Soundgarden!

Windhawk wrote: debrewguy wrote: Maybe we change the name to "influence on / from prog, interest of / to prog" . I'm quite aware that bands like XTC and Jellyfish could be fit in under such a tag. Heck, let's just label it "you might like 'em" or "of possible interest to a prog fan" if we want to make it sound important . I still think that a big name band has to leap over tall buildings , when all a no-name act has to do, is to show up at the door with a friend. Sophisticated non-progressive music As much as we all love purebred progressive rock in all it's varieties, it's not the total bread and butter of what we listen to. Many mainstream-oriented artists have a high level of sophistication to their music, in the shape of compositional, structural, improvisational or experimental features that also caters to a progressive audience. From the well-known jams of Grateful Dead to the highly challenging antics of Björk, Soundgarden's dissonant riff structures and Judas Priest's groundbreaking approach that would influence every metal act that followed. There's an abundance of artists both well and not so well known that creates music that goes beyond the borders of easygoing, easy listenable music that will be of interest to a progressive audience. And many of the fans interested in these varieties of sophisticated music will also find the purebred progressive approach interesting if they become aware of it. To cater for musical tastes outside of the progressive field for our main audience, as well as to attract those familiar with the sophisticated but unaware of the progressive, we have decided to expand the scope of this website with this category. To connect these two audiences, for the benefit of both. -------------- It will most likely never happen, but it is a dream...

but - in fact - isn't it prog related you are writing about?

When it come to Prog Related, I think it's commonly easier for a relatively known name to get in than a real obscurity (partially because an obscurity is less likely to have had much influence on Prog being, well, obscure, plus it's more difficult to find info on obscurities and make the case).  I know that in my time on a Prog team it was all about the music and not the name (but then Eclectic doesn't deal with so many big names not known for Prog).

Blowin Free wrote: I did not necessarily mean Crossover, as always, Related is always an option! Remember people, if goddamn IRON MAIDEN are on this site, then Soundgarden should be in atleast related.

I hear Soundgarden elements in Pain Of Salvation (Gildenlow sounds like Cornell sometimes) and Mastodon. 

I think only one song of SOUNDGARDEN have proggy elements: " Black hole sun". I dont care about what is soundgarden. I'm sure this band is not a progressive band and if you want call it PROG you can call " Grandfunk Railroad" too!!! Grandfunk have one proggy song called " Railroad".

I wonder why Soundgarden is suggested for PA, while there is this band called The Melvins, which inspired a host of grunge bands and which is far more "proggy"...

Tony R wrote: This thread is about Soundgarden the Grunge Rock isn't it? Just checking.

Maybe somebody saw the Nirvana bio etc and just got confused

Chris S wrote: Windhawk wrote: You know Claude, if the criterias for prog related hadn't been as tight as a flea's arse I wouldn't have minded seeing theme there. Currently getting a band in there is just about as easy as winning the lottery though, as it has been decided that prog-related as a genre basically is an unwanted feature around these parts. Actually Olav I have found the P-R route to be mostly positive when presenting a band with good justification. The controversial issues always stem from emotive connections to the older bands.   To confirm a no for crossover, same for the great Blind Melon if they ever got suggested   Let them present a decent case ( Blowin free) and you might have success

Ah. It used to be that way, until they tightened the definition from being one out of three possibilities for inclusion to become all three parameters.

The definition used to be:

- Without being 100% Prog, received clear MUSICAL influence of this genre,
OR
- Are widely accepted as MUSICALLY influential to the development of Progressive Rock by the community, OR
- Blend characteristics of Progressive Rock with mainstream elements creating a final product that despite not being part of the genre is evident that are close to Prog.

The revised definition is:

- Without being 100% Prog, received clear MUSICAL influence of this genre,
AND
- Are widely accepted as MUSICALLY influential to the development of Progressive Rock by the community, AND
- Blend characteristics of Progressive Rock with mainstream elements creating a final product that despite not being part of the genre is evident that are close to Prog.

Depends on your point of view Marty. Those who think that the site is too inclusive as it is obviously like this narrowed down approach.

Those of us with a more liberal approach to matters don't all agree to that ;-)

Tony R wrote: This thread is about Soundgarden the Grunge Rock isn't it? Just checking.

You right tony!! I thought we speak about PROG ! I mistake and i'm sorry. Now i undrestand this. We talk about Grunge rock and we dont want to suggest new PROG bands. thanks.