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himtroy
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Posted: March 03 2010 at 12:27 |
harmonium.ro wrote:
^ all the live version I listed are impeccable and there's nothing sloppy on them (albeit they do differ)
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i disagree. Page is a mess live
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halabalushindigus
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Posted: March 03 2010 at 12:54 |
..."Page is a mess live"... I can't believe somebody actually had to guts to say it. ...but it's tru.
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assume the power 1586/14.3
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Alberto Muņoz
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Posted: March 03 2010 at 14:04 |
Not a mess but a bit sloppy yes
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lazland
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Posted: March 03 2010 at 14:36 |
halabalushindigus wrote:
..."Page is a mess live"... I can't believe somebody actually had to guts to say it. ...but it's tru. |
I've said it many a time. He was. Seeing them at Knebworth, as I've said on a separate thread, was one of the biggest disappointments of my life, and the soundtrack to the film The song Remains The Same is absolutely appalling.
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Abstrakt
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Posted: March 03 2010 at 15:30 |
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harmonium.ro
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Posted: March 03 2010 at 18:34 |
himtroy wrote:
harmonium.ro wrote:
^ all the live version I listed are impeccable and there's nothing sloppy on them (albeit they do differ)
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i disagree. Page is a mess live |
That's not what we're talking about. We're talking about a few selected performances. Have you heard them? They are impeccable. And different. Which is why I like them all.
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jammun
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Posted: March 03 2010 at 21:47 |
JLocke wrote:
^ Could've gone my whole life without seeing/hearing that. |
Guess I need to do a "favorite Zappa cover" thread. Stairway to Heaven. Whipping Post. Sunshine of Your Love. Purple Haze. Ring of Fire. The list is almost endless.
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Can you tell me where we're headin'?
Lincoln County Road or Armageddon.
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JLocke
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Posted: March 03 2010 at 22:23 |
jammun wrote:
JLocke wrote:
^ Could've gone my whole life without seeing/hearing that. |
Guess I need to do a "favorite Zappa cover" thread. Stairway to Heaven. Whipping Post. Sunshine of Your Love. Purple Haze. Ring of Fire. The list is almost endless. |
I might be more open to those. I know it's prudish of me, but I don't think songs as classic as that one need to be covered, because they ALWAYS disappoint me.
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halabalushindigus
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Posted: March 04 2010 at 01:28 |
here's the deal as far as I'm concerned. Jimmy Page, for starters has an incredible weight on his shoulders when he plays live. He has to play the rhythm and the leads. He always plays BRILLIANTLY, if you are a guitarist, you know what I mean. Sure, it's sloppy, maybe that's because he's playing in a band called,HELLO!! LED ZEPPELIN. And out of all the guitarists mentioned in this poll, not ONE OF THEM would dare take a square-off against Jimmy. I know I wouldn't.
His playing is sexy. and very melodic. Remember, the listener has to understand what the guitarist is playing. He is perhaps the most raw guitarist this world has ever seen
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assume the power 1586/14.3
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Alberto Muņoz
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Posted: March 04 2010 at 11:41 |
lazland wrote:
halabalushindigus wrote:
..."Page is a mess live"... I can't believe somebody actually had to guts to say it. ...but it's tru. |
I've said it many a time. He was. Seeing them at Knebworth, as I've said on a separate thread, was one of the biggest disappointments of my life, and the soundtrack to the film The song Remains The Same is absolutely appalling.
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In Knebworth JP was not as his very top form, and he sounded not as good as he is/was, The version of The Song Remains The Same, was one of the worst night in the MSG but if you grab some ROIO of the three nights, i think the second night is the best version, check the ROIO named Grandilocuence.
Besides that if you want to hear Zep in all his mighty i recommend to you the Texas Pop Festival 1969 ROIO, they play with fire!
Also the 1980 tour was better than the 1979 knebworth shows, check muster 1980 and the last one, Berlin 1980.
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Alberto Muņoz
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Posted: March 04 2010 at 11:42 |
halabalushindigus wrote:
here's the deal as far as I'm concerned. Jimmy Page, for starters has an incredible weight on his shoulders when he plays live. He has to play the rhythm and the leads. He always plays BRILLIANTLY, if you are a guitarist, you know what I mean. Sure, it's sloppy, maybe that's because he's playing in a band called,HELLO!! LED ZEPPELIN. And out of all the guitarists mentioned in this poll, not ONE OF THEM would dare take a square-off against Jimmy. I know I wouldn't.
His playing is sexy. and very melodic. Remember, the listener has to understand what the guitarist is playing. He is perhaps the most raw guitarist this world has ever seen |
Could agree more!
And also we have to remember how's LZ life on the road.
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The Doctor
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Posted: March 04 2010 at 11:57 |
BOC's Stairway to the Stars.
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Harry Hood
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Posted: March 05 2010 at 00:40 |
this thread fails for not including Frank Zappa's rendition on The best Band You've Never Heard In Your Life. Which is, factually, the best version of Stairway.
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Kashmir75
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Posted: March 05 2010 at 18:32 |
rushfan4 wrote:
I'll go with the studio version as well. Depending on the day, I still consider Stairway to Heaven to be my all time favorite song, although some days that title goes to Tom Sawyer. My favorite Led Zeppelin song however is Kashmir. Only in my crazy mixed up world.
Going back to the discussion on No Quarter, I really like the version that Plant and Page came up with their world music versions of Zeppelin songs. |
Kashmir's my fave LZ song too, hence my username!
I tend to listen to the live versions of Stairway more than the one on IV these days, but only because I have heard it played so much. It's still great though. I have all the versions listed above in the poll. I voted for the BBC Sessions version. That was on John Peel's radio show, right?
I have that No Quarter Unledded CD. The world music versions of their songs are interesting. It's good they focused on mainly their lesser known material (Friends, Four Sticks). I love the version of Kashmir on that disc.
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Dellinger
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Posted: March 05 2010 at 21:45 |
^ I may even like that album more than any actual Led Zeppelin album... well, it would be a tie with IV. It's really really good, great arrangements to their classic songs as well as to their no so known ones. My only complaint would be the very No Quarter song, which I didn't like how they played it, I would rather have had The Rain song in the album (which is included on the DVD and sounds really cool). More than world music versins, I would say Hindu-Sounding versions.
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