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jampa17 
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 Posted: March 02 2010 at 11:04 |
 The Quiet One wrote:
^who cares, the point is clear and it's awesome.
BTW: Mike is a quite a great photographer/videographer, so I doubt you're the proffessional here. |
I'm start to feel like you are taking it personally... and great if you think he is great... I don't place my work in doubt for your opinion... as well as I seriously don't know nothing about Mike... my work speaks for itself and I was making fun of that little pic as well... 
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Queen By-Tor
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Posted: March 02 2010 at 11:05 |
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simmer down guys, no need for personal attacks here...
my pic wasn't meant to be a "work of art", it was just for fun. Let's leave it at that.
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The Quiet One
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Posted: March 02 2010 at 11:05 |
rogerthat wrote:
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I've never heard Black Clouds, I would listen to it if I was given the chance, I'll try anything once.
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My opinion: it's not totally bad but nothing great either...don't make it your first DT album, that's for sure.
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Like I said in my highly acclaimed review  , if you have listened to Systematic Chaos and Octavarium, and you seriously liked those two, then Black Clouds will have something for you.
If it's your first listen of Dream Theater, it's by no means a good introduction, and that any real Dream Theater will admit.
If you have not yet heard any of Dream Theater's latest releases with Rudess, it's not a bad start.
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A Person
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Posted: March 02 2010 at 11:06 |
rogerthat wrote:
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I've never heard Black Clouds, I would listen to it if I was given the chance, I'll try anything once.
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My opinion: it's not totally bad but nothing great either...don't make it your first DT album, that's for sure.
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Scenes From a Memory was my first. Some parts were interesting but I could tell that it isn't a type of music that I will ever really like.
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TheGazzardian
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Posted: March 02 2010 at 11:10 |
A Person wrote:
rogerthat wrote:
A Person wrote:
I've never heard Black Clouds, I would listen to it if I was given the chance, I'll try anything once.
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My opinion: it's not totally bad but nothing great either...don't make it your first DT album, that's for sure.
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Scenes From a Memory was my first. Some parts were interesting but I could tell that it isn't a type of music that I will ever really like.
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Systematic Chaos was my first and I think that was a big mistake, because I don't really want to hear anything else they did now. XD
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The Quiet One
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Posted: March 02 2010 at 11:10 |
jampa17 wrote:
The Quiet One wrote:
^who cares, the point is clear and it's awesome.
BTW: Mike is a quite a great photographer/videographer, so I doubt you're the proffessional here. |
I'm start to feel like you are taking it personally... and great if you think he is great... I don't place my work in doubt for your opinion... as well as I seriously don't know nothing about Mike... my work speaks for itself and I was making fun of that little pic as well... |
No, I'm not taking it personally, I just can't stand people saying things that are not true.
If you're going to complain about the focus of an image that was taken just for fun, then you indeed are either humorless or can't stand a joke against Dream Theater.
I'm not saying I think he's great, from what I know, that is what Mike does, so I doubt he's not in the least good.
Edited by The Quiet One - March 02 2010 at 11:15
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The Quiet One
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Posted: March 02 2010 at 11:11 |
A Person wrote:
rogerthat wrote:
A Person wrote:
I've never heard Black Clouds, I would listen to it if I was given the chance, I'll try anything once.
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My opinion: it's not totally bad but nothing great either...don't make it your first DT album, that's for sure.
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Scenes From a Memory was my first. Some parts were interesting but I could tell that it isn't a type of music that I will ever really like.
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If you didn't like that one, I very much doubt you'll enjoy anything they did with Rudess, with some few exceptions.
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jampa17
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Posted: March 02 2010 at 11:12 |
yeah... that's their worst album and don't have anything brilliants of what's about DT... my recomendation is to start with Awake... and then see if you can deal with it... 
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Queen By-Tor
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Posted: March 02 2010 at 11:14 |
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Awake is a brilliant album - AND the one I count as being the single most important album in getting me into progressive rock when I was in highschool.
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jampa17
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Posted: March 02 2010 at 11:18 |
King By-Tor wrote:
Awake is a brilliant album - AND the one I count as being the single most important album in getting me into progressive rock when I was in highschool. |
My exacts words... that was the album that open up for me the world of prog... 11 years ago... I still remember the emotion I felt that day... 
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Change the program inside... Stay in silence is a crime.
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Queen By-Tor
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Posted: March 02 2010 at 11:19 |
Didn't feel it immediately, but that was when I found out that some albums grow on you 
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rushfan4
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Posted: March 02 2010 at 11:24 |
The Quiet One wrote:
rogerthat wrote:
A Person wrote:
I've never heard Black Clouds, I would listen to it if I was given the chance, I'll try anything once.
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My opinion: it's not totally bad but nothing great either...don't make it your first DT album, that's for sure.
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Like I said in my highly acclaimed review , if you have listened to Systematic Chaos and Octavarium, and you seriously liked those two, then Black Clouds will have something for you.
If it's your first listen of Dream Theater, it's by no means a good introduction, and that any real Dream Theater will admit.
If you have not yet heard any of Dream Theater's latest releases with Rudess, it's not a bad start.
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"Like I said in my highly acclaimed review, if you have listened to Systematic Chaos and Octavarium, and you seriously liked those two, then Black Clouds will have something for you." Like I said way back on page 2, by PA definitions, this means that you should have given the album 2-stars. If fans of Dream Theater would like this album than it should get 2-stars.
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A Person
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Posted: March 02 2010 at 11:25 |
King By-Tor wrote:
Awake is a brilliant album - AND the one I count as being the single most important album in getting me into progressive rock when I was in highschool.
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If I ever try another DT album I'll make sure it's that one.
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jampa17
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Joined: July 04 2009
Location: Guatemala
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Posted: March 02 2010 at 11:30 |
rushfan4 wrote:
The Quiet One wrote:
rogerthat wrote:
A Person wrote:
I've never heard Black Clouds, I would listen to it if I was given the chance, I'll try anything once.
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My opinion: it's not totally bad but nothing great either...don't make it your first DT album, that's for sure.
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Like I said in my highly acclaimed review , if you have listened to Systematic Chaos and Octavarium, and you seriously liked those two, then Black Clouds will have something for you.
If it's your first listen of Dream Theater, it's by no means a good introduction, and that any real Dream Theater will admit.
If you have not yet heard any of Dream Theater's latest releases with Rudess, it's not a bad start.
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"Like I said in my highly acclaimed review, if you have listened to Systematic Chaos and Octavarium, and you seriously liked those two, then Black Clouds will have something for you." Like I said way back on page 2, by PA definitions, this means that you should have given the album 2-stars. If fans of Dream Theater would like this album than it should get 2-stars. |
That was the goal of my PM that I send to him....!!! thanks Scott... you find the right words...!!!
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Change the program inside... Stay in silence is a crime.
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Queen By-Tor
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Posted: March 02 2010 at 11:34 |
And yet no one find a problem with Rune2000's reviews? ***** star songs: Blah, Blah pt 2 **** Star Songs: Something, Something else *** Star songs: Song 1 ** Star songs: Shortest song on album therefore I give this album 2 stars  leave Pablo alone...
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rushfan4
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Posted: March 02 2010 at 11:37 |
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Rune2000's review wasn't up for discussion here. However, if it were, I would have to agree that that makes no sense.
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The Quiet One
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Posted: March 02 2010 at 11:40 |
rushfan4 wrote:
The Quiet One wrote:
rogerthat wrote:
A Person wrote:
I've never heard Black Clouds, I would listen to it if I was given the chance, I'll try anything once.
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My opinion: it's not totally bad but nothing great either...don't make it your first DT album, that's for sure.
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Like I said in my highly acclaimed review , if you have listened to Systematic Chaos and Octavarium, and you seriously liked those two, then Black Clouds will have something for you.
If it's your first listen of Dream Theater, it's by no means a good introduction, and that any real Dream Theater will admit.
If you have not yet heard any of Dream Theater's latest releases with Rudess, it's not a bad start.
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"Like I said in my highly acclaimed review, if you have listened to Systematic Chaos and Octavarium, and you seriously liked those two, then Black Clouds will have something for you." Like I said way back on page 2, by PA definitions, this means that you should have given the album 2-stars. If fans of Dream Theater would like this album than it should get 2-stars. |
I don't use the definitions of the stars as a guidance, and I doubt many do, some reviewers even created their own rating system which I find perfect and a really smart thing to do.
I think the review should explain the reason of the rating, and not focus on the definition of the rating. If that were the case, everybody who rates a POP album by a Prog with more than 2 stars is wrong since they're not "Good Prog Rock release" or however it is. And I could go on with more examples.
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Queen By-Tor
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Posted: March 02 2010 at 11:41 |
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bloody hell - can't we start a "why my reviews are better than yours" thread or something?
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The Quiet One
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Posted: March 02 2010 at 11:43 |
King By-Tor wrote:
bloody hell - can't we start a "why my reviews are better than yours" thread or something? |
Or make polls of that for that matter: "Who's the better reviewer?" 
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jampa17
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Posted: March 02 2010 at 11:43 |
King By-Tor wrote:
bloody hell - can't we start a "why my reviews are better than yours" thread or something? |
Should be it on Just For Fun section (because it will be hilarious) or should be it on the Appreciation section...??? I'm up to it... 
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