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    Posted: October 21 2004 at 20:03
i think he should.  his music is progressive enough for me.
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I chose maybe. His music is progressive in the sense that it combines traditional aspects with things that haven't (or hadn't) been done before...I think its a tough decision to make.
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no, his music, while technically amazing is devoid of any passion and ends up being boring.  he doesn't really do anything (new) with the talent he has either.  And no, he isn't prog.
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Points: 14693 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 22 2004 at 03:51
I'd have to say an emphatic NO.

Don't get me wrong, I know he's a hugely talented guitarist & contributed much in his short stint with Zappa, but I agree 100% with Carl floyd fan, there is no passion there, and you can only listen for so long to what my wife refers to as "guitar w**king".

This isn't progressive rock, just re-hashing what Edward Van Halen was doing 25 years ago, only faster.

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Points: 12815 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 22 2004 at 04:50

I think Vai is great especially Re-Flexible and Passion & Warfare, but prog music??? No.

My admiration grows for Vai having found him guesting on others' albums of other sorts of music, e.g. with Al DiMeola playing (on the remake) Racing The Devil On A Turkish Highway or with Anglo-Indian musican Surinder Sandhu and British jazz saxophonist Andy Shepherd doing Indo-Jazz Fusion.
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Points: 8548 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 22 2004 at 05:10
Should any of us be here ?????????????????
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Sorry mate but no. Like Elvis, he's a genre unto himself.

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Originally posted by rachmahlerov rachmahlerov wrote:

i think he should.  his music is progressive enough for me.

If he's prog enough, all is prog enough
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I agree with Oliver. We have to have some bounderies. And of course I also agree with Velvet: Should any of us be here? I know I have my doubts...
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Points: 7559 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 22 2004 at 07:32

I disagree with the comments about his lack of passion - methinks you look in the wrong places!

There are swarms of *other* "virtuosi" who release passionless, sterile, technical, ego-centric noodlefests, but for me at least, Vai stands head, shoulders and probably many other bits above his contemporaries.

To say Vai's solo material lacks passion is a lot like saying Zappa's music lacks passion.

I know I shouldn't be here...

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Points: 6308 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 22 2004 at 07:41

But there's no doubt that Zappa is prog!

And virtuosity is not the only criteria

Zappa is one of the very best guitar player and a great composer!
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Points: 16130 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 22 2004 at 07:41

..and Zappa rated Vai very highly, and perfomred with him on numerous occassions.

I saw Vai playing with Dave Lee Roth some years ago, and he was the best thing happening on the stage. He's very talented,versatile, and original but not really prog IMO.
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No Way ! ! ! That goes for Satriani too, before anybody gets the idea !

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Points: 16130 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 22 2004 at 07:57
Originally posted by Lunarscape Lunarscape wrote:

No Way ! ! ! That goes for Satriani too, before anybody gets the idea !

Lunar

Wasn't Satriani Vai's guitar teacher for a while??

A freind of mine was into Satriani in the 80's. I thought his albums 'Not of this Earth' and 'Surfing with the alien' were rather tedious, so I never listerned to anything else he did.

You're quite right. I agree. Not prog..
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Points: 12815 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 22 2004 at 10:23
Originally posted by sigod sigod wrote:

he's a genre unto himself.

 

Goodness stand by for every rock musician having his/hers/their own personal sub-sub-sub- etc - sub-genre. I thought Vai was literally out of Joe Satriani's school of shreading....................................
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Points: 830 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 22 2004 at 17:39
hmm... I think he's got some progressive quality to him.

I think he should be in here.

Just listen to the Attitude song.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhuxaD8NzaY
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Points: 15 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 30 2004 at 16:12

listen to bangkok and firegarden suite before deciding whether steve is prog or not.  and the comments about him playing with feel are irrelevant, there are 100s of bands on this site that "play with no feel" imo.  to me, prog is eclectic rock that cannot be catergorized any other way, and usually features virtuoso musicianship.  is that not steve?
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Points: 1492 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 30 2004 at 16:55

Yeah, probably...

 
break the circle

reset my head

wake the sleepwalker

and i'll wake the dead
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Points: 3300 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 30 2004 at 16:55
The Fixx is 100 times more prog than Steve Vai, and it is still not here!
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Points: 7559 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 30 2004 at 17:20

Originally posted by greenback greenback wrote:

The Fixx is 100 times more prog than Steve Vai, and it is still not here!

I totally disagree with your considered and detailed discourse...
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