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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 14 2010 at 10:10
I just finished up listening to Welcome to the Freakroom, and I am following it up with a second listen.  I really enjoyed this album when I first got it, and I am really enjoying listening to it again right now.  But, in my opinion, as good as this first album is, Whispers and Screams is a step above and a step in the right direction to my ears.  Either way, good stuff.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 16 2010 at 02:33
John,
 
I read a few reviews the other day, one of which criticised the track order, especially the final track being Then in July.
 
I don't go along with this but would like to hear your thoughts as to how you came to selecting the final order. Big smile
 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 16 2010 at 02:59
Originally posted by progmetalhead progmetalhead wrote:

John,
 
I read a few reviews the other day, one of which criticised the track order, especially the final track being Then in July.
 
I don't go along with this but would like to hear your thoughts as to how you came to selecting the final order. Big smile
 
 


Oh, I could go on about this! But I'll try to tell it as succinctly as I can...

When Dave presented the song "Angel", one of the things he insisted on was that it end with the sound of rain. As I was writing "Then in July", there was literally a thunder storm outside as I was playing back the timpani part (which Corey played on toms later) - anyway, when I heard the sound of thunder with the percussion, it occurred to me to blend it form the end of "Angel", so those pieces became linked.

I haven't heard anyone mention this yet, so I'm not sure if it's obvious - but Then in July is actually a musical reprise of Willoughby - it's the same chord progression as the Willoughby verses, and also briefly reprises the middle choir part...I had somewhat intended Willoughby and Then in July to book-end "side two" in this way...BTW, every song on "side two" is a story about regret - When Morning Comes is about love lost, Willoughby about a man regretting his life,  Angel is about a father who regrets abusing his daughter, and since Then in July is a Bolero (the Spanish dance always told the story of two lovers that ultimately ends tragically), that makes up the theme of "side two"...

Many are confused at the way Then In July ends - it just dies out sort of suddenly, but not in any big, glorious way. I wanted it to end the way a life would really end in that old Bolero's story - as C.S. Lewis once said, "not with a bang, but a whimper"...


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 19 2010 at 10:50

I do find that interesting.  Aside from Willoughby, I haven't really come away from my listens recognizing the darker undertones that the second half seems to have from your comments.  I will have to take that knowledge into my next listen to see how it effects my listening experience.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 19 2010 at 14:03
Well, just put the album on... The opening track is killer, with some fantastic, Purple-hued organ work. Really an album that redefines Symphonic Prog in modern terms. I will take particular care with my review, because I believe this is an effort that deserves a lot more exposure. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 19 2010 at 14:16
I look forward to reading your review Raff.  If you are posting it on the other site, if it is OK to do so, could you post a link to it in this thread.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 19 2010 at 14:40
I will try to write a review for PA too, since John was so nice as to send me the album. However, I have become much slower in writing reviews, and lately it takes me forever to produce something I will be happy with. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 19 2010 at 15:01

There are only so many words that can be used to describe albums before you start repeating yourself.  Kind of like trying to be a musician and stay original.



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 19 2010 at 15:06
Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

There are only so many words that can be used to describe albums before you start repeating yourself.  Kind of like trying to be a musician and stay original.



That's all too true, and then I tend to be a bit of a perfectionist. I want to do the album justice, anyway, and will try my best to do so.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 21 2010 at 12:23
Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

I do find that interesting.  Aside from Willoughby, I haven't really come away from my listens recognizing the darker undertones that the second half seems to have from your comments.  I will have to take that knowledge into my next listen to see how it effects my listening experience.



I hope I didn't taint your own perspective too much! Must resist temptation to interfere with discussion! The theme of regret is sometimes subtle, and not necessarily the primary emotion, such as When Morning Comes, which is predominantly bittersweet but hopeful, and Then in July, which is primarily about passion...But the important thing is what is conveyed, not necessarily what was intended, so let the music take you where you want it to, not where I say it should! ;-)


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 22 2010 at 16:06
My copy just arrived in the mail - I'm going to go listen to it for the first time, and will return with thoughts once I am done!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 22 2010 at 16:06
Cool. Thumbs Up
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 22 2010 at 17:19
First impressions - I like this album. High points for me were Parts 5 and 6 of the big epic, and the last track. I definitely was digging the drummer, he does some things that sound really great. Not to disparage the rest of the band, I just notice drumming as a separate entity first. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 24 2010 at 12:43
Listening to it for the third time right now. The Horsemen Ride is definitely sticking up there as one of my top tracks on the album. It's one of those songs where all the elements are combining in a way that actually works rather well on me, I'm getting very into it. Kind of has a country flair to it in my ears, but it works really well. Willoughby is also growing on me.

Without jumping the gun too fast, any word on what the album for next month is going to be? I should probably order a copy soon if I want to be able to join in the discussions. :D
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 24 2010 at 12:49
Listening to it for the third time right now. The Horsemen Ride is definitely sticking up there as one of my top tracks on the album. It's one of those songs where all the elements are combining in a way that actually works rather well on me, I'm getting very into it. Kind of has a country flair to it in my ears, but it works really well. Willoughby is also growing on me.

Without jumping the gun too fast, any word on what the album for next month is going to be? I should probably order a copy soon if I want to be able to join in the discussions. :D
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 24 2010 at 13:01
Originally posted by TheGazzardian TheGazzardian wrote:

First impressions - I like this album. High points for me were Parts 5 and 6 of the big epic, and the last track. I definitely was digging the drummer, he does some things that sound really great. Not to disparage the rest of the band, I just notice drumming as a separate entity first. 
A lot of times I find myself drawn to the drumming first too, and I agree that he does a really fine job here, especially on songs like The Long Road and The Horsemen Ride.  I also really enjoy the guitar and keyboard/organ work as well.  I'm really enjoying The Big Fire (pt 3) right now.  The intro was really good and the tempo changes within are really good. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 24 2010 at 13:11
Originally posted by TheGazzardian TheGazzardian wrote:

Listening to it for the third time right now. The Horsemen Ride is definitely sticking up there as one of my top tracks on the album. It's one of those songs where all the elements are combining in a way that actually works rather well on me, I'm getting very into it. Kind of has a country flair to it in my ears, but it works really well. Willoughby is also growing on me.

Without jumping the gun too fast, any word on what the album for next month is going to be? I should probably order a copy soon if I want to be able to join in the discussions. :D
If you get a chance check out the link that JPlanet provided above to the Willoughby video.  At least for me, it really enhanced my view of the song since it really worked well in my opinion.
 
Good question on next month's selection.  I usually think of it the day that I post.  EmbarrassedLOL  This month was unusual because I was helping promote the band's endeavor for Haiti.  I'll take a look at what I have recently received to see if I have anything that I have enjoyed but neglected. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 24 2010 at 14:07
Great stuff Scott. I will be getting a disc so I can play it through the Sound System. Too good to listen to it again using the computer. I may even have to purchase my first Mp file  everSmile The Horsemen Ride is great and really stood out for me as well but the whole album wonderful.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 24 2010 at 14:37
Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

If you get a chance check out the link that JPlanet provided above to the Willoughby video.  At least for me, it really enhanced my view of the song since it really worked well in my opinion.

I just checked it out - you're right, it's a great video, really added to the song.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 24 2010 at 15:02

Are you familiar with that particular Twilight Zone episode?  I really find it quite amazing what things/items etc... musicians run across in their lives that inspire them to write their songs. 

As I mentioned near the beginning I love how their epic suite is based on the Stephen King book The Stand.  Which leads me into having some more "fun" with this.  Are you familiar with, or are you interest in, any other songs, prog or otherwise, that are based on Stephen King novels or movies? If so, then check out this thread which will be used to list these songs.  http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=65318&PID=3562356#3562356
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