DT... already a prog legend?

'The lackluster narrative is presented with artless exposition; they've compromised between using lyrics that fit the song and fitting the music to the story, and as a result everything sounds contrived.'

'I find listening to this CD to be just a little more enjoyable than viewing images of endless Middle Eastern atrocities, or reading the gruesome details of the latest killings by some gun-toting psychopath.'

'SPEECHLESS'

'Not a masterpiece - and not Prog - just long'

'The musicianship is extremely competent but for every good idea (and there are some) there is one equally crass and stupid'

'I can honestly think of few albums as tedious to listen to as Dream Theater's "magnum-opus" '

sorry...  that isn't legendary... unless you want to talk polarizing... and that... fades to nothing when they finally retire. DT is a popular group... and has lots that loathe it.  Nothing more.. nothing less.  That does not make something legendary... it makes them polarizing.  If DT had invented the prog equilvalent of the wheel.. that would be saying something.. since they haven't.  well.. they haven't.  What then makes something legendary..  one of the first thing is standing the test of time.  Considering half the prog audience can't stand this group.. and many that do like them most likely will hard pressed to remember them in 10 years.. 20 years...  I do have my doubts as to being legendary.. or ever approaching that status

J-Man wrote: rushfan4 wrote: J-Man wrote: rushfan4 wrote: micky wrote: thanks Scott...  I was knocked on my ass for more than a few days.  That is what I get for parading around in work in short sleeves still thinking I was in Marquette  acclaimed?  well.. in the spirit of Ivan...  let's break that down...  remember a particular review of one of their legendary albums.. a challenge... find a legendary prog album that has had this written about it.  Not by twits ..but by collabs with decades and decades of prog listening experience... 'The lackluster narrative is presented with artless exposition; they've compromised between using lyrics that fit the song and fitting the music to the story, and as a result everything sounds contrived.' 'I find listening to this CD to be just a little more enjoyable than viewing images of endless Middle Eastern atrocities, or reading the gruesome details of the latest killings by some gun-toting psychopath.' 'SPEECHLESS' 'Not a masterpiece - and not Prog - just long' 'The musicianship is extremely competent but for every good idea (and there are some) there is one equally crass and stupid' 'I can honestly think of few albums as tedious to listen to as Dream Theater's "magnum-opus" ' sorry...  that isn't legendary... unless you want to talk polarizing... and that... fades to nothing when they finally retire. DT is a popular group... and has lots that loathe it.  Nothing more.. nothing less.  That does not make something legendary... it makes them polarizing.  If DT had invented the prog equilvalent of the wheel.. that would be saying something.. since they haven't.  well.. they haven't.  What then makes something legendary..  one of the first thing is standing the test of time.  Considering half the prog audience can't stand this group.. and many that do like them most likely will hard pressed to remember them in 10 years.. 20 years...  I do have my doubts as to being legendary.. or ever approaching that status. If you would like to attach names to those quotes I could probably break each one of them down as what they are.  Yeah if Ivan said this,  Or Sean Trane said that.  Or you or Raff said the other things, they perfectly make sense because you all dislike DT for your own various reason.  My opinions of these are 100% the exact opposite.  I would much rather listen to an album like Scenes From A Memory which makes perfect sense than I would a classic like Lamb Lies Down which makes absolutely no sense.  The only thing that seems to make sense in that one is that at one point he is swimming in a sea of cut-off penises that are then eaten by the things in the water with them and it poisons them.  I'm sorry but I would much rather a ghost story about a murder that took place in the pass than a story about chopped off penises.  And yet, Genesis and the Lamb are legendary.   And by the way, most of your comments regarding Genesis would be similar because as I recall you consider them to be a real snooze fest.   What I really, really don't understand is how you can be such a big fan of ELP and yet hate Dream Theater.  Dream Theater are easily the rightful heir to what ELP was doing in the 70's.  (I can't speak regarding all of ELP's RPI clones since I haven't started listening to that pasta prog yet). I can relate to the ELP and DT thing. I absolutely love DT, but I dislike most ELP albums (though I moderately enjoy BSS, Trilogy, and Tarkus). I hate to pull the age card, but I find very few PAers under 30 who like ELP, aside from maybe 1 album or 2.  There will be those who like their debut and nothing else or Tarkus and nothing else, but most of the younger members seem to hate ELP.  *ducks* as every unusual case will now respond that they are under 30 and like ELP* I'm confident that's not it. How many teenage kids do you know that would rather listen to Genesis, Yes, Rush, Dream Theater, Marillion, Neal Morse, and The Flower Kings instead of Miley Cyrus, Britney Spears, and Eminem? Not that many. It's just that I'm not crazy about ELP (neither is my dad, who's in his 40's )

I can't truly disagree with Pablo either.  They do seem to have some lesser songs on each of their albums to go with their best works.  But you know, so does classic Genesis, King Crimson, Jethro Tull, Yes, and Pink Floyd.