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Slartibartfast
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Posted: February 09 2010 at 21:55 |
Atavachron wrote:
cstack3 wrote:
PLEASE, don't try to do another "Union" routine!! Ugh!! |
that tour was spectacular; imagine Yes in-the-round with two drummers and two guitarists.. it's considered one of their finest tours ever, I believe
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Union was the last time I saw Yes live. It was at the Lakewood Ampitheater which basically meant no chairs and your spot was way away from the band. As I recall the ground was a bit damp. Still, I enjoyed the music at the time so no hard feelings. It felt like a bit of a step up from their more commercial efforts previously.
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Dellinger
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Posted: February 09 2010 at 22:10 |
When I saw Yes last year, they were in fact touring under the label "Chris Squire, Steve Howe, Alan White of Yes" or something like that. Ofcourse everyone just said it was a Yes concert, but that's not the bands fault. This year it seems they do are touring under the Yes name, and as far as I remember Wakeman's complaints were that they weren't making it clear on their advertisements that they weren't touring with Jon and Rick, and thus were letting down people. As far as I understand, Jon's complaint is that he isn't in the band. However, if they both aren't in shape for complete tours, well I guess they should let the others keep on working; in the end, the Drama and the 90125 lineups were called Yes, so why not this one. In fact, if this lineup shouldn't use the name Yes, so by the time of Talea from Topographic Oceans they should have dumped the name (only 2 original members left by then).
Still, I guess if Jon wanted to re-enter the group within this tour, that should have been great, but I guess they didn't want to let Benoit down... perhaps some special appearences with both singers would have been cool and might have served both sides... even though I don't know if having two singers so similar would have worked right.
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Atavachron
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Posted: February 09 2010 at 22:13 |
cstack3 wrote:
Atavachron wrote:
cstack3 wrote:
PLEASE, don't try to do another "Union" routine!! Ugh!! |
that tour was spectacular; imagine Yes in-the-round with two drummers and two guitarists.. it's considered one of their finest tours ever, I believe
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I think the "Relayer" tour was far superior! It WAS fun to watch Steve Howe make very sour faces when playing Trevor Rabin's songs, and Bruford looked amazingly bored.
Overall, the Union live show I attended did work, it was fun to see Tony Kaye onstage!
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yeah one of the top three shows I've seen (of many)
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Atavachron
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Posted: February 09 2010 at 22:15 |
Slartibartfast wrote:
Union was the last time I saw Yes live. It was at the Lakewood Ampitheater which basically meant no chairs and your spot was way away from the band. As I recall the ground was a bit damp. Still, I enjoyed the music at the time so no hard feelings. It felt like a bit of a step up from their more commercial efforts previously.
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that's right I remember, it seemed like a step back to their roots (and a very nice cover)
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cstack3
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Posted: February 10 2010 at 00:30 |
Interesting thread with great comments! Like an orchestra, Yes has continued its evolution, so perhaps the flavor of the day vocalist shouldn't matter that much?
I missed the Trevor Horn tour, and only recently pulled "Drama" out for a spin & was pleasantly surprised how much I enjoyed it! Any Yes is better than no Yes at all, right?
I'd enjoy hearing this Benoit chap actually...my own favorite faux-Jon would have been Steve Carney, check out his video of "Soon" with the band Fragile, with Steve Howe playing pedal steel guitar. Very nice!!
If Jon isn't in shape for the duties, that's okay, he should have handed it off to his choice of understudy with his blessings. This damn Yes-soap-opera stuff gets a bit tiresome sometimes! I mean, Rick Wakeman protesting, although son Ollie is with the band???
Funny how Squire is the only one who is never replaced in these evolutions! A tough guy to supplant, although Levin did a hell of a job in ABWH!
*sigh* You know you are a Yes addict when....
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Atavachron
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Posted: February 10 2010 at 00:39 |
^ I always took Chris for the core of the band, the real leader
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cstack3
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Posted: February 10 2010 at 00:52 |
Atavachron wrote:
^ I always took Chris for the core of the band, the real leader
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Yeah, he's been called "Keeper of the Flame" by some in the Yes universe! I think he may actually hold the title to the trademark of the band's name, which is where the Yes/Cinema (90125) and ABWH schism came to be.
This is a great interview with Peter Banks about the origin of Yes, and tons of other historic prog oddities (Robert Fripp in a hooded cape!!)
http://www.themarqueeclub.net/interview-peter-banks-yes
Must've been a scream to have been a part of that scene!!
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Cactus Choir
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Posted: February 10 2010 at 02:34 |
People can look at the line-up and decide for themselves whether they are willing to pay to see this incarnation of Yes. I've seen the band four times and the weakest performance was actually with the "classic" line-up of Anderson, Wakeman, Howe, Squire and White. The best was with Igor Khoroshev on keyboards where they played an absolute blinder (I still get shudders thinking about the amazing version of Awaken they did).
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toroddfuglesteg
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Posted: February 10 2010 at 04:30 |
Cactus Choir wrote:
People can look at the line-up and decide for themselves whether they are willing to pay to see this incarnation of Yes.
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I totally agree. I am going to stage a protest outside Glasgow Concert Hall to demand that Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart is being allowed to play together with the ..........whatever orchestra is doing his .........whatever piano concerto. Jon is sick and Rick could not be bothered. I still think it is unfair towards the new generation of human beings to deny them the access to the Yes songs, played live by musicians from this band. Not all prog loving human beings are more than fifty years old and have seen the original Yes live. As long as this incarnation of Yes is not breaking the Goods & Trade Description Act and the ticket buyers goes to the gigs with an open mind, I think this is good tour. I have more moral issues with the various third rate symphonic orchestras playing Mozart than with this Yes tour.
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Roj
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Posted: February 10 2010 at 07:37 |
When I saw the title of this thread, my first thought was........ Protest? Why protest, Yesshows is a fantastic album.
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Cactus Choir
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Posted: February 10 2010 at 07:41 |
cstack3 wrote:
This is a great interview with Peter Banks about the origin of Yes, and tons of other historic prog oddities (Robert Fripp in a hooded cape!!)
http://www.themarqueeclub.net/interview-peter-banks-yes
Must've been a scream to have been a part of that scene!! |
That's a terrific interview, thanks a lot for the link. Oh how I wish I'd been around to go to the Marquee then. I'd even have put up with the sweaty atmosphere and no beer!
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"And now...on the drums...Mick Underwooooooooood!!!"
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lazland
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Posted: February 10 2010 at 10:33 |
The quote on the pamphlet in an earlier thread from Anderson was on his website when the new lineup was originally announced - it was subsequently pulled by Jon himself after discussions with the band. The quote from Wakeman is more recent and featured in an interview in Classic Rock presents Prog. As I have said before, I cannot face the band without Anderson. As Wakeman said after Tormato breakup, he represents much more than one fifth of the band. I have not seen the current tour in the UK, and have only watched clips on YouTube, none of which have changed my opinion. That said, I would never be so desperate to protest in this way. It was clearly an "unofficial" protest, but doesn't really surprise me. As a lifelong trade union activist, I ceased to be amazed by some of the petty and moronic things people protest about a long time ago
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cstack3
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Posted: February 10 2010 at 13:31 |
hmmmm....I checked Jon's website, and he shows a bunch of upcoming gigs in Canada!!
http://www.jonanderson.com/news.html
WTF?? I understand he was ill for a while, but if he's in form for these concerts, what happened with Yes??
Maybe another blow-up with Squire? *sigh* Yes, prog's most dysfunctional family!!
Cactus Choir, thanks for the mini-review of the Igor Khoroshev - Yes gig! I missed those shows, sadly! Man, that Igor dude got some bad press!!
"Until now, though, no one has ever heard of an sexual assault from a member of a progressive rock band. But the Washington Post
reports that Prince William County (Virginia) police have charged Igor
Khoroshev, the 35-year-old keyboardist for Yes, with assaulting two
female security guards during the band's Sunday performance at the
Nissan Pavilion, near Washington, D.C.."
So, where is he now??
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ProgressiveAttic
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Posted: February 10 2010 at 15:16 |
toroddfuglesteg wrote:
I still think it is unfair towards the new generation of human beings to deny them the access to the Yes songs, played live by musicians from this band. Not all prog loving human beings are more than fifty years old and have seen the original Yes live. |
Exactly.... I am 17 years old and a HUGE Yes fan!...I've never seen Yes live (or any other band playing Yes songs) before so I'll love to see someone playing this stuff live and if there are Yes members on the band MUCH MUCH BETTER!!! I'll probably miss Anderson's vocals (since I know every single note and sound on the original albums which I've listened at least 10000 times) and Wakeman's keys (I also love Oliver's music and style so seeing him with Yes would be great to.... I wouldn't complain...)
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Negoba
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Posted: February 10 2010 at 15:45 |
As far as I know, Chris Squire has had control of Yes brand for a long time...hence ABWH.
I saw the current lineup and the show was phenomenal. My friend who went with me, a Yes fanatic, has seen them many times, and said "Sure it would be nice if Anderson was with them, but that was a great show!"
At the time of the last tour Anderson could not sing at all. In fact, he almost died. For this tour, he still is only able to do limited dates. He is supposedly now healthy enough for limited shows, but made it clear he can't do full tours. After successfully touring with the Cover guy (who did his job as well as anyone could have) the remaining members chose a lineup that could do a full tour. From all accounts, if Anderson had been healthy enough before the previous tour, they would have kept him.
Here's a pretty good link. There are lots of perspectives available if you navigate through the site.
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Cactus Choir
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Posted: February 10 2010 at 16:24 |
cstack3 wrote:
Cactus Choir, thanks for the mini-review of the Igor Khoroshev - Yes gig! I missed those shows, sadly! Man, that Igor dude got some bad press!!
"Until now, though, no one has ever heard of an sexual assault from a member of a progressive rock band. But the Washington Post
reports that Prince William County (Virginia) police have charged Igor
Khoroshev, the 35-year-old keyboardist for Yes, with assaulting two
female security guards during the band's Sunday performance at the
Nissan Pavilion, near Washington, D.C.."
So, where is he now??
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Blimey! I didn't know about the alleged sexual assault. Perhaps that's why they kicked him out the band? I remember Jon Anderson announced him on stage as "Russian and a bit crazy". I was really disappointed when I heard he'd left as I thought he'd given the old boys a much-needed kick up the rear and really energised their performance. His playing was superb as well. He really nailed the quiet church organ/percussion passage in the middle of Awaken and the climax was truly awesome, possibly the most magical moment I've ever had at a concert.
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"He's up the pub"
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cstack3
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Posted: February 10 2010 at 19:42 |
Cactus Choir wrote:
cstack3 wrote:
Cactus Choir, thanks for the mini-review of the Igor Khoroshev - Yes gig! I missed those shows, sadly! Man, that Igor dude got some bad press!!
"Until now, though, no one has ever heard of an sexual assault from a member of a progressive rock band. But the Washington Post
reports that Prince William County (Virginia) police have charged Igor
Khoroshev, the 35-year-old keyboardist for Yes, with assaulting two
female security guards during the band's Sunday performance at the
Nissan Pavilion, near Washington, D.C.."
So, where is he now??
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Blimey! I didn't know about the alleged sexual assault. Perhaps that's why they kicked him out the band? I remember Jon Anderson announced him on stage as "Russian and a bit crazy".
I was really disappointed when I heard he'd left as I thought he'd given the old boys a much-needed kick up the rear and really energised their performance. His playing was superb as well. He really nailed the quiet church organ/percussion passage in the middle of Awaken and the climax was truly awesome, possibly the most magical moment I've ever had at a concert. |
Here's a bit more detail...
http://www.livedaily.com/news/Yes_Keyboardist_Arrested_Following_Washington_DC_S%20how-1532.html
Ha ha ha!! Considering how Led Zepplin treated their groupies, these girls got off easy!!
Yeah, I love "Awaken" also! Saw them do that with the GFTO tour, Union show & probably a few other times. A true masterwork!!
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Posted: February 10 2010 at 20:12 |
To me this is the real YES. look at the center picture.
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micky
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Posted: February 11 2010 at 10:49 |
^ oh wow..... that is great. One of your best yet
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Blacksword
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Posted: February 11 2010 at 13:58 |
I would have thought Rick would be proud as punch, that his son is up there with such agreat band. Like passing on the family business..
For that reason, the claims on the protestors flyers are likely to be bullsh*t.
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