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    Posted: February 09 2010 at 18:30
In a thread on another prog forum I read one of the funniest things I've happened to come across in a long time.  It seems that, at the Yes gig of yesterday evening at the Calvin Theater in Northampton (MA), there were people outside the venue handing out leaflets in which Jon and Rick allegedly dissed the current incarnation of the band. Can you believe that - prog fundamentalistsLOL? Obviously, no one believes that the two musicians are in any way behind this 'original' initiative. It seems, anyway, that some people have nothing better to do with the time on their hands. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 09 2010 at 18:35
not very progressive of them
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 09 2010 at 18:37
do you by chance have the link to the other forum where this has been discussed?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 09 2010 at 18:39
oh man....   I hope they turn up at the Warner Theater... I love people who try to protest.. or sell me stuff...

me ... in my ass kicking days...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 09 2010 at 18:44
Originally posted by NJCat_11 NJCat_11 wrote:

do you by chance have the link to the other forum where this has been discussed?


It's on the home page of ProgressiveEars (www.progressiveears.com). It should still be among the newest items.. Unfortunately, it's not easy to conjure up the link for the thread in question, but you should have no trouble in finding it - the title is the same.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 09 2010 at 18:51
What is the newest incarnation of the band? (pardon my ignorance and my laziness)... Tongue 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 09 2010 at 18:57
Found this on another forum site:

...a two-sided postcard-sized paper, on the front of which is a pic of Jon and Rick, stating:
Jon Anderson has branded Yes as 'disrespectful' for continuing to tour with tribute singer Benoit David in his place. Anderson claims his request to rejoin the band for a latest bunch of dates in the UK this month was rebuffed. "As much as I wish the band well, they should not (be touring) as Yes," he insists.
On the back, shots of Jon & Rick:
"Keyboardist Rick Wakeman has no time for the current version of Yes, even though his son Oliver is in the line-up. Yes also replaced Jon Anderson with tribute singer Benoit David. "It's inappropriate and not respectful to the fans," said Wakeman. "It's all over with the calssic line-up-I just get on with my life and my music."
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 09 2010 at 18:57
Jon Anderson has been seriously sick, and has been replaced by a French Canadian guy called Benoit David (who used to be in a Yes tribute band). Rick Wakeman, on the other hand, has retired from touring, and has been replaced by one of his sons, Oliver. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 09 2010 at 19:00
bah....   it's all about the music. They sounded GREAT.. at least for the two songs we heard from that lineup last year before the Anti-Christ intervened and unleashed one of the protends of the apocalypse on us

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 09 2010 at 19:11
Hi,
 
In a way I think that they are right ... and I really think that the attempt to capitalize on the "YES" brand ... is not right ...
 
But I find it hippocritical all the same for Jon and Rick to be saying what they are saying when they know the history of rock music has been known to rape musicians ... maybe they shuold go read the story of the fake Fleetwood Mac that was touring around because the record company owned the name, not Mick or John.
 
I would have seen Squire and whoever else on his own ... and I declined to go see it because they were calling it YES ... if they had said ... an evening including some Yes music ... I could appreciate that ... but calling themselves YES ... I find offensive.
 
And no ... I'm not one of those throw the stone and books at you kind of person ... and while I can see that a couple of folks want to make sure people still know/appreciate YES ... in the end ... John and Rick are going to come off like cry-babies ... you wanna tell me that you would not want all those great sopranos sing Turandot for you in the next 150 years ... your flipping insane ... sso Jon and Rick ... I love you both ... but grow up and say thank you ... since, btw ... you're still gettting paid off this!
 
And if you die unhappy because of it ... you are not thankful for the legacy and the people that have helped you build it! ...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 09 2010 at 19:18
people take this sh*t too seriously....  it's music...  nothing more .. nothing less.   For all intents and purposes 3/4ths of Yes is still playing to it's fans...  most people simply don't care if Jon is there or not.  David is not... well.. ME up on stage. He sings Jon's parts damn well... 


seriously.. would people just want the group to just hang it up because the egos which have been as much a part of the group as the music itself haven't gone away.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 09 2010 at 19:27
Originally posted by NJCat_11 NJCat_11 wrote:

"As much as I wish the band well, they should not (be touring) as Yes," he insists.


What else would they call it?  If you have 3 out of 5 original or regular members of the band playing the music that made them famous, there is no other name for such a legacy.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 09 2010 at 19:28
Hmmm....they should have recruited Steve Carney from the UK tribute band "Fragile"!  Fragile sound remarkably like Yes, and have played onstage with Pete Banks and other Yes-men.  I always thought Fragile had the "stamp of approval."

Lots of this "Let's replace the singer!" stuff going on in the world of rock lately....Journey, Boston, Aerosmith and now Yes!  

I tend to agree with others that it isn't truly Yes without Jon Anderson.  PLEASE, don't try to do another "Union" routine!!  Ugh!!  
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 09 2010 at 20:06
Originally posted by NJCat_11 NJCat_11 wrote:


Originally posted by NJCat_11 NJCat_11 wrote:

"As much as I wish the band well, they should not
(be touring) as Yes," he insists.
What else would they call it?  If you have 3 out of 5 original or regular members of the band playing the music that made them famous, there is no other name for such a legacy.YES


Maybe "Benoit Howe Squire Wakeman White" (BHSWW)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 09 2010 at 20:08
I've only seen one protest at a concert and that was when Weather Report played in Atlanta after playing Sun City.  As far as Yes is concerned the band member changes have been uhm, perpetual.  As long as the music is good they can keep on doing it and have the band live on forever.  I've moved on a while ago though.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 09 2010 at 20:27
Originally posted by cstack3 cstack3 wrote:

  PLEASE, don't try to do another "Union" routine!!  Ugh!!  


that tour was spectacular; imagine Yes in-the-round with two drummers and two guitarists.. it's considered one of their finest tours ever, I believe


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 09 2010 at 20:42
Someone or something must own the rights to the 'Yes' name so wouldn't said owner(s) be within their rights to sue third parties for a breach ?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 09 2010 at 21:02
Originally posted by cstack3 cstack3 wrote:

Hmmm....they should have recruited Steve Carney from the UK tribute band "Fragile"!  Fragile sound remarkably like Yes, and have played onstage with Pete Banks and other Yes-men.  I always thought Fragile had the "stamp of approval."

Lots of this "Let's replace the singer!" stuff going on in the world of rock lately....Journey, Boston, Aerosmith and now Yes!  

I tend to agree with others that it isn't truly Yes without Jon Anderson.  PLEASE, don't try to do another "Union" routine!!  Ugh!!  

I haven't heard Benoit David's singing yet, so can't judge him (is he any good?), but I have to agree, it isn't really the same without Jon. 

There is a lot of 'if the singer doesn't want to do it, let's find a replacement' recently. Thank God the Plant-less Zeppelin never took flight. 

Now I didn't really think the 'Drama' lineup was 'Yes', either. Did fans riot back then about the Buggles meets Yes lineup? (I was born in 82. Too young to remember!)Tongue
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 09 2010 at 21:14
Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

Originally posted by cstack3 cstack3 wrote:

  PLEASE, don't try to do another "Union" routine!!  Ugh!!  


that tour was spectacular; imagine Yes in-the-round with two drummers and two guitarists.. it's considered one of their finest tours ever, I believe



I think the "Relayer" tour was far superior!  It WAS fun to watch Steve Howe make very sour faces when playing Trevor Rabin's songs, and Bruford looked amazingly bored.   

Overall, the Union live show I attended did work, it was fun to see Tony Kaye onstage!  However, the LP for "Union" leaves much to be desired IMHO.  That is more what I was hinting at with the "Union routine" wisecrack!  
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 09 2010 at 21:37
Originally posted by ExittheLemming ExittheLemming wrote:

Someone or something must own the rights to the 'Yes' name so wouldn't said owner(s) be within their rights to sue third parties for a breach ?


The only thing I could find is that supposedly at the time of ABWH the legal owners of the name "Yes" were the 90125 incarnation of the band.  But that was a long time ago.
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