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Vompatti 
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 Posted: February 04 2010 at 18:15 |
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May I ask a personal question?
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crimhead
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Posted: February 05 2010 at 00:40 |
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Why does it have to be personal?
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Moogtron III
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Posted: February 05 2010 at 03:00 |
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Maybe because PA means personal attention?
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crimhead
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Posted: February 05 2010 at 11:42 |
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Does that personal attention come with a happy ending?
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Vompatti
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Posted: February 05 2010 at 15:29 |
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Are we talking about Thai massage?
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Moogtron III
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Posted: February 05 2010 at 16:32 |
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It must be, because Thai boxing has personal attention but not always a happy ending.
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crimhead
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Posted: February 06 2010 at 12:33 |
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Is this the kind of Thai boxing that one would see in a Jean Claude Van Damme movie?
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Moogtron III
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Posted: February 06 2010 at 14:01 |
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Wasn't Jean Claude Van Damme (a.k.a. "the muscles from Brussels") not more into karate?
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CPicard
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Posted: February 06 2010 at 14:48 |
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So, what does he get into lately?
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Posted: February 06 2010 at 14:51 |
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Isn't he becoming the subject of a song written by Buffy Ste-Marie more than 40 years ago?
Edited by someone_else - February 06 2010 at 15:17
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Moogtron III
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Posted: February 06 2010 at 16:17 |
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You mean the Universal Soldier, popularized by Donovan?
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Vompatti
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Posted: February 07 2010 at 14:58 |
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Does he drive an interstellar Panzerwagen?
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Moogtron III
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Posted: February 07 2010 at 16:23 |
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Are you aware of the fact that it is "Ich bin der Panzerwagen" and that Jean Claude would drive "den Panzerwagen"?
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CPicard
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Posted: February 07 2010 at 16:29 |
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So, does it mean that Vandamme left karate to get into the Panzerwagen?
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Vompatti
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Posted: February 08 2010 at 03:55 |
 Moogtron III wrote:
Are you aware of the fact that it is "Ich bin der Panzerwagen" and that Jean Claude would drive "den Panzerwagen"?
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I was until Rico told me I was wrong. 
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Moogtron III
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Posted: February 08 2010 at 04:41 |
Vompatti wrote:
Moogtron III wrote:
Are you aware of the fact that it is "Ich bin der Panzerwagen" and that Jean Claude would drive "den Panzerwagen"? |
I was until Rico told me I was wrong.
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A Panzerwagen is male (which isn't surprising, but that aside)
"Ich" is the subject, so it gets a nominative case.
You're using a copula (sein, in this case)
When you're using a copula in an Indo - European language, and the subject (Ich) is in the nominative case, the predicate nominal (Panzerwagen) is also in the nominative case.
So it's "der": male article in the nominative.
You could say, though: Ich sehe den Panzerwagen, because then it's the accusative mode.
But it's: Ich bin der Panzerwagen
Right, question game:
Do you understand?
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Vompatti
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Posted: February 08 2010 at 05:34 |
I do, but I suppose it's the "zwischen den Sternen"-part that makes it "den" because I am that particular panzerwagen that is there between the stars? 
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Moogtron III
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Posted: February 08 2010 at 07:16 |
Nice try   But no, sorry, the stars can remain as den-ish as they are ( zwischen goes with dative case), but the Panzerwagen should be der, for the reasons I stated above. Ich bin der Hass (Codo), Ich bin ein Berliner (Kennedy), Ich bin der Walross (The Beatles if they would have composed this in their Hamburg days; Ich bin ein Hamburger, oh well...) Am I becoming irritating already  ?
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Vompatti
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Posted: February 08 2010 at 07:26 |
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Should I PM Rico about this?
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Moogtron III
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Posted: February 08 2010 at 07:51 |
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If you think grammar is a law which we should obey, an objective beacon in a world full of confusing opinions, then yes.
If you think grammar is nothing else than an object, a tool, a doormat to clean the shoes of our poetic thoughts, then no.
What's grammar for you?
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