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slidesandbends 
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 Topic: Relayer: The Yes Masterpiece?
Posted: January 21 2010 at 16:47 |
ok guys, another heated question for all you yes fans. Which album is it that drives there point home? It's alarming to think that some of us will point to an album that does not include wakeman or bruford. RELAYER!
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LandofLein
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Posted: January 21 2010 at 17:09 |
I didn't realize Yes albums had a point 
My favorite album by them is TFTO, but that is probably their most meaningless album
I would have to agree with you on Relayer, sometimes that is one that gets lost in the shuffle for me, but when I listen to it, it becomes one of my favorites.
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ProgressiveAttic
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Posted: January 21 2010 at 17:57 |
My two favorite Yes albums are Tales... and Relayer (neither of these includes Bruford  ...)
I don't think that Tales is meaningless but its main idea is too philosophical and somewhat difficult to get... while Relayer has a more of a straightforward and down to earth theme (but since we are talking about Yes... both albums' themes are highly confusing and difficult to get) 
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Tsevir Leirbag
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Posted: January 21 2010 at 18:10 |
Yes, it's a fact, Relayer is their best.
With or without Wakeman and Bruford, it's still it.
Edited by Tsevir Leirbag - January 21 2010 at 18:11
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NJCat_11
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Posted: January 21 2010 at 18:16 |
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I would argue that Going For The One, Relayer's immediate successor, is still better.
It features Rick Wakeman too.
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Epignosis
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Posted: January 21 2010 at 18:18 |
 Not only the greatest of Yes's masterpieces, but the greatest album in all music.
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topofsm
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Posted: January 21 2010 at 18:21 |
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I concur about Relayer. It's easily my best album of the 70s, and I don't even care for Sound Chaser all that much, the Gates of Delirium is simply that good. You'll notice I rarely review the classic albums because there's really no point, but I felt a need to give Relayer a 5 star review. Stunning really.
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J-Man
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Posted: January 21 2010 at 18:22 |
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Close to the Edge is my favorite by a longshot. I also think it's one of the defining albums in prog.
-Jeff
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Alberto Muñoz
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Posted: January 21 2010 at 18:24 |
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Fragile and Close to the Edge.
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Finnforest
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Posted: January 21 2010 at 18:24 |
Tales is the perfect culmination of all Yes' talents: emotion, composition, and technical ability. The songs are so interesting and unique, each its own mini-adventure, making the albums that came before frankly a bore in comparison. Relayer was a close second, but not really all that close. Tales is easily their greatest work. 
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Jake Kobrin
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Posted: January 21 2010 at 18:31 |
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CttE = 1
Relayer = 2
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Tarquin Underspoon
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Posted: January 21 2010 at 18:32 |
 Alberto Muñoz wrote:
Fragile and Close to the Edge. |
QFT
Close to the Edge, And You and I, and Siberian Khatru are far, far better than The Gates of Delirium, Sound Chaser, and To Be Over. And for that matter, I would argue that South Side of the Sky, Long Distance Runaround, and Heart of the Sunrise put up a pretty good fight against CTTE.
I realize this is all subjective, but you can count me among those that simply do not get Relayer and do not understand how CTTE can be anything less than Yes's best and among the greatest prog releases ever.
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jplanet
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Posted: January 21 2010 at 18:47 |
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Relayer is definitely my favorite as well.
Sound Chaser sounds modern even now - Moraz's jazz influence melding perfectly with Squire's bass prowess, that ferocious Howe telecaster solo settling into a lush dreamy synth...
To Be Over: Could there be a more beautiful melody, or even a more beautiful instrument than sitar to play it? Everything on this track is so bittersweet and exhilerating...
The Gates of Delirium is like a journey to heaven, that climax with Alan White pounding the drums to that stunning melody played by Pat Moraz - using a Moog sound nobody has ever reproduced - then trading off with Steve Howe's pedal steel, the sound is like liquid crystal and quicksilver, conveying a fantasy beyond anything Roger Dean could paint.
In other words: yeah!
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Posted: January 21 2010 at 19:04 |
Alberto Muñoz wrote:
Fragile and Close to the Edge. |
Absolutely!
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The Pessimist
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Posted: January 21 2010 at 19:25 |
UNION  Seriously though, my favourite is The Yes Album.
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Posted: January 21 2010 at 20:44 |
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I realize I'm in the minority on this website, but I don't understand why Relayer is so well-loved [here]. It's a bloated, meaningless and even boring album. Yes lost it after Close to the Edge.
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BaldFriede
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Posted: January 21 2010 at 20:59 |
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"Close to the Edge" is overrated, in my opinion. It is not a bad album, and I will give it four stars always, but it lacks bite. That bite is present on "Relayer" though, and it definitellly is my favourite Yes album.
"Close to the Edge" will, however, always be the preferred choice for lovers of symphonic prog. But that is probably the least favourite genre of mine, together with prog metal. You may wonder why I don't like prog metal when I like "the bite", but I actually believe that most prog metal bands bark a lot but don't really bite. Just playing loud and fast is definitely not what I mean by "bite".
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Kashmir75
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Posted: January 21 2010 at 21:40 |
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I like the trinity of The Yes Album, Fragile, and Close to the Edge myself.
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squirting
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Posted: January 21 2010 at 21:51 |
I've always thought that Fragile was overrated. Close To The Edge is my favourite, but I actually haven't listened to Relayer much.
brb
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Posted: January 21 2010 at 21:57 |
BaldFriede wrote:
"Close to the Edge" is overrated, in my opinion. It is not a bad album, and I will give it four stars always, but it lacks bite. That bite is present on "Relayer" though, and it definitellly is my favourite Yes album.
"Close to the Edge" will, however, always be the preferred choice for lovers of symphonic prog. But that is probably the least favourite genre of mine, together with prog metal. You may wonder why I don't like prog metal when I like "the bite", but I actually believe that most prog metal bands bark a lot but don't really bite. Just playing loud and fast is definitely not what I mean by "bite".
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I agree wholeheartedly with your Yes opinions, though don't agree on the PM conclusion, or why you even mentioned it.
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