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halabalushindigus ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November 05 2009 Location: San Diego Status: Offline Points: 1438 |
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Vinyl has much better sound. Cds can be digitally remastered from all sorts of sources, enabling encoding of all sorts of noises. I just bought "McGear" on Cd. Its absolute rubbish! Even at low volumes the piano just oozes with static, whereas my LP sounds kick!.But then with records, they have to be maintained because of the inevitable scratches, pops and skips. Buying a record player with a nice cartridge is a GOOD IDEA. |
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WalterDigsTunes ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: September 11 2007 Location: SanDiegoTijuana Status: Offline Points: 4373 |
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Why I dislike vinyl:
hisspophisspopcracklecracklepopSKIPSKIPhisspopcrackle Why I like vinyl: Cheap Big art It spins |
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himtroy ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: January 20 2009 Status: Offline Points: 1601 |
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Well, it's not really the fact that its on vinyl that makes it better, it's the original mix that does. That original mix is often only found on the vinyl though. What crushes the audio of CDs is the mass compression and the output being jacked all the way up. So I'd more so suggest trying to find non-remastered CDs than chasing after the vinyl, though I do enjoy my large vinyl collection.
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Kestrel ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: June 18 2008 Location: Minnesota Status: Offline Points: 512 |
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I agree with your "why I like" reasons. However it seems new vinyl is pretty expensive, although I did buy a 2xLP by Chromeo with free shipping (post-disco/funk) for $16 on Amazon, but bought Zombi's 2004 LP for $24 with shipping. Kinda sucks. Edited by Kestrel - January 12 2010 at 18:53 |
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jammun ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() Joined: July 14 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 3449 |
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Slarti, please tell me this is one of your
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Can you tell me where we're headin'?
Lincoln County Road or Armageddon. |
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clarke2001 ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: June 14 2006 Location: Croatia Status: Offline Points: 4160 |
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Err, no. |
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Slartibartfast ![]() Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator / In Memoriam Joined: April 29 2006 Location: Atlantais Status: Offline Points: 29630 |
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Uhm, which part? ![]() http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physics/General/Glass/glass.html This sort of backs you up on the glass thing. Then we can agree it's an amorphous solid. ![]() Edited by Slartibartfast - January 13 2010 at 05:29 |
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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chopper ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: July 13 2005 Location: Essex, UK Status: Offline Points: 20032 |
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"It is sometimes said that glass in very old churches is thicker at the bottom than at the top because glass is a liquid, and so over several centuries it has flowed towards the bottom. This is not true."
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clarke2001 ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: June 14 2006 Location: Croatia Status: Offline Points: 4160 |
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Honestly, I don't know. It seems logical that if glass, which is solid state of matter, doesn't behave like a liquid, the same should apply for polyvinyl chloride molecules. I might be wrong though. I'm tempted to ask this guy... |
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halabalushindigus ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November 05 2009 Location: San Diego Status: Offline Points: 1438 |
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Is that a picture of Tesla?
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assume the power 1586/14.3 |
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Slartibartfast ![]() Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator / In Memoriam Joined: April 29 2006 Location: Atlantais Status: Offline Points: 29630 |
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I wasn't making it up, the vinyl did go a little flat. Maybe by not more than a 1/32" on the bottom edge but it was noticeable. I haven't checked out my top of the shelf records yet. I'll report back in when I get a moment to inspect them. The storage location at the house was fairly even in temperature. The storage unit where I have my top shelf LPs is conditioned. But if the bottom edge flattened a little, who knows about the whole disc? When my top boss attempts playback, I will also report back....
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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Nightfly ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: August 01 2007 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 3659 |
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A friend of mine sells records for a lving on ebay and he invested in one of those vinyl cleaning machines. You appy a few drop of liquid, brush it in and allow it to rotate while is sucks all the rubbish out the grooves. I bought a copy of Living In the Past off ebay and the seller had really overatted the condition as it looked filthy. I put it on my mates machine and it came up looking almost new and played much better. Of course it wont work miracles and get rid of scratches.
I think they're around 3 -4 hundred quid for a pro one though so unless you're really serious about vinyl probably not worth the money.
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Certif1ed ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 08 2004 Location: England Status: Offline Points: 7559 |
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I'm an official member of Vinylholics Conspicuous...
For a first turntable, I'd recommend the Project Debut III USB - it's a proper turntable, but at a price that is extremely reasonable for what it is and does.
Purists wouldn't like it, as it has a built-in preamp - but this is a strength if the rest of your system is halfway modern, and lacks a phono input!
The other enormous strength is the USB bit - you plug it straight into your PC and create your own mp3s so you can listen to your vinyls on the go.
The biggest disadvantage with vinyl is storage. The other is tracking down particularly rare recordings - it's much easier to find CDs, and easier still to find mp3s of really hard to come by stuff.
The advantages are;
1) Sounds much better than any other music format except reel-to-reel. No arguments please.
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3) It's still possible to buy a piece of vinyl in a second-hand shop and discover it's worth 100x what you paid for it - although I agree, with the Internet, people have wised up, and it's much harder than it used to be - but still, collecting vinyl can fund itself, in theory.
In practice, I find I tend to hang on to the really precious slabs...
When you first play a well-mastered Led Zep II on your turntable (and there are loads of different masterings out there, so beware!), you suddenly realise what heavy rock music is supposed to sound like - and Pink Floyd's "Dark Side of the Moon" does the same thing for Prog.
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The important thing is not to stop questioning.
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Vibrationbaby ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: February 13 2004 Status: Offline Points: 6898 |
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I still have my two turntables from the seventies ( a Dual and a Micro Seiki ) and I still use them almost every day. I think my dogs even use them when I'm not home. They prefer vinyl and they were both born when CDs were in vogue !
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Slartibartfast ![]() Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator / In Memoriam Joined: April 29 2006 Location: Atlantais Status: Offline Points: 29630 |
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Your dogs, playing your records when you're not around? I'd be keeping a closer eye on them when you're not around. ![]() Edited by Slartibartfast - January 21 2010 at 12:26 |
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mono ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: May 12 2005 Location: Paris, France Status: Offline Points: 652 |
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Yes |
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https://soundcloud.com/why-music Prog trio, from ambiant to violence
https://soundcloud.com/m0n0-film Film music and production projects https://soundcloud.com/fadisaliba (almost) everything else |
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Vibrationbaby ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: February 13 2004 Status: Offline Points: 6898 |
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Slartibartfast ![]() Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator / In Memoriam Joined: April 29 2006 Location: Atlantais Status: Offline Points: 29630 |
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it's tough having pets. ![]() |
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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halabalushindigus ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November 05 2009 Location: San Diego Status: Offline Points: 1438 |
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Aarf!!
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mono ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: May 12 2005 Location: Paris, France Status: Offline Points: 652 |
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Get this for your pets!
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https://soundcloud.com/why-music Prog trio, from ambiant to violence
https://soundcloud.com/m0n0-film Film music and production projects https://soundcloud.com/fadisaliba (almost) everything else |
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