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I can't think of it as anything less than 4 stars; it seems to have this nearly electronic experimental edge to it, which I don't think I've heard in full from the band before. Really solid work!


It was, of course, at about this time that Hogarth began pleading with the press to reappraise the band in terms of being more like Radiohead than Genesis. I remember him ringing a BBC Radio phone in to say this when one of the guests, when discussing music, said how much he liked Kayleigh and wondered just what had happened to the bandWink
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Originally posted by progkidjoel progkidjoel wrote:

I can't think of it as anything less than 4 stars; it seems to have this nearly electronic experimental edge to it, which I don't think I've heard in full from the band before. Really solid work!
It was, of course, at about this time that Hogarth began pleading with the press to reappraise the band in terms of being more like Radiohead than Genesis. I remember him ringing a BBC Radio phone in to say this when one of the guests, when discussing music, said how much he liked Kayleigh and wondered just what had happened to the bandWink


It really is hard to compare the two eras; I can understand how fans of the Fish era might not like the band with h, but I don't get how they can blatantly hate them like many on the internet do

Here's a piece of supreme irony:
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Ha Ha. Where DID you get that from?ClapClapClapClap

Fish in his Misplaced prime, being interviewed by Oooooh Gary Davies (you had to be there to get that oneLOL), on a video with H looking suspiciously like a New Romantic.

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There's quite a lot of rare interviews from Fish and Marillion on Youtube. This one's fantastic:

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Originally posted by Basíleia Basíleia wrote:

Originally posted by E-Dub E-Dub wrote:

I've got a couple of Front Row discs from the Brave tour and the energy is a bit better than that of the Paris recording on Made Again. I'd have to say that the Brave Live 2002 could quite possibly be the best recording of Brave that I have.

Joel, Afraid Of Sunlight is so beautiful. Aside from "Cannibal Surf Babe" (which is an alright tune, but a bit out of place), the entire album has such an underlying pain and ache to it. I also believe that it's Hogarth's best performance as a whole. His vocals just really shine on this.

And the title track could be one of the most beautiful songs I've ever heard. It's just absolute magic. Afraid Of Sunlight is usually right behind Brave and running neck and neck with Marbles as my favorite Marillion discs.

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're You kidding me? Cannibal Surf Babe totally fits amidst the painfull songs. You see, in a way Cannibal Surf Babe is a very emotional song, too: the singer clearly is out of his mind and has a lot of non-outspoken love on his mind - though he does not know how to cope with it. Musically it wouldn't flow into the next song in a right way so they've fabriqued the French ending (which is just the text, yet then semi-whispered in French by a française if I remember correctly), which is the perfect ending to the song to express it really is an emotional song....A bit of a confusing story of mine, but I think you'll understand me, right?
 
AoS really is a marvelous album, like Eric stated, Joel, the weakest song, which if it'd been up to me would not have made it onto the album, is by far Beautiful: it just is way too fake an emotion on this track, nice to hear, but a rather poor efford, IMO.
One of the best songs (though they're all great) is Afraid of Sunrise...I prefer this one to the title song, I guess, by just a noselength, but it encorporates the pain of the album just a tadd better than the title song, I think...What do you three think?


It's just my opinion. I know I've been away for a bit and that (to you) I'm new; but, as author of the thread I'd like to maintain it as a place where people can speak freely about this band while being respectful. You probably didn't mean anything by it, but "You kidding me" automatically discredits my opinion. We disagree on CSB vs. Beautiful, but I would never fire back with a 'You kidding me".

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Laz, I'm seriously considering Holland. We've got a few months before tickets go on sale, but leaning pretty heavy in that direction.

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Originally posted by E-Dub E-Dub wrote:

Originally posted by Basíleia Basíleia wrote:

Originally posted by E-Dub E-Dub wrote:

I've got a couple of Front Row discs from the Brave tour and the energy is a bit better than that of the Paris recording on Made Again. I'd have to say that the Brave Live 2002 could quite possibly be the best recording of Brave that I have.

Joel, Afraid Of Sunlight is so beautiful. Aside from "Cannibal Surf Babe" (which is an alright tune, but a bit out of place), the entire album has such an underlying pain and ache to it. I also believe that it's Hogarth's best performance as a whole. His vocals just really shine on this.

And the title track could be one of the most beautiful songs I've ever heard. It's just absolute magic. Afraid Of Sunlight is usually right behind Brave and running neck and neck with Marbles as my favorite Marillion discs.

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're You kidding me? Cannibal Surf Babe totally fits amidst the painfull songs. You see, in a way Cannibal Surf Babe is a very emotional song, too: the singer clearly is out of his mind and has a lot of non-outspoken love on his mind - though he does not know how to cope with it. Musically it wouldn't flow into the next song in a right way so they've fabriqued the French ending (which is just the text, yet then semi-whispered in French by a française if I remember correctly), which is the perfect ending to the song to express it really is an emotional song....A bit of a confusing story of mine, but I think you'll understand me, right?
 
AoS really is a marvelous album, like Eric stated, Joel, the weakest song, which if it'd been up to me would not have made it onto the album, is by far Beautiful: it just is way too fake an emotion on this track, nice to hear, but a rather poor efford, IMO.
One of the best songs (though they're all great) is Afraid of Sunrise...I prefer this one to the title song, I guess, by just a noselength, but it encorporates the pain of the album just a tadd better than the title song, I think...What do you three think?


It's just my opinion. I know I've been away for a bit and that (to you) I'm new; but, as author of the thread I'd like to maintain it as a place where people can speak freely about this band while being respectful. You probably didn't mean anything by it, but "You kidding me" automatically discredits my opinion. We disagree on CSB vs. Beautiful, but I would never fire back with a 'You kidding me".

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Well, as you said, I didn't mean anything offensive with it - the words "'re You kidding me" incorporate my feelings of not-understanding (I can't think of the word for this on) why you think CSB is a lesser song than Beautiful. With the exclamation I meant to stimulate you to explain your opinion rather than feel attacked by it. I didn't mean to start the discussion CSB vs. Beautiful, I just wanted to know why you're keeping that opinion, seeing I've already tried to explain why I think CSB fits with the album.

Nonetheless, I am truly sorry, you misunderstood what I was saying, please keep in mind, though, that I am not a native English speaker like you three are, maybe you would say it in a different way than I would: I meant no harmEmbarrassedSmile

I am someone, who has made up his mind very fast and may come of relatively strong - I know it's your opinion, but I don't share it; I am allowed to say what I said and to mean what I meant, you didn't get my intentions when you read it, mainly due to the fact I used the wrong words, I guess.

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Haha, that first video is brilliant!Clap
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Originally posted by progkidjoel progkidjoel wrote:

There's quite a lot of rare interviews from Fish and Marillion on Youtube. This one's fantastic:



I actually saw this when it came out. It's from a very cheap real life TV show in Britain called Airline, which follows the staff & customers of Easy Jet, a budget airline owned by a Greek millionaire. I was approached at work by a friend, who told me that Marillion were appearing on that night's show. Being the TV and cultural snob I am, I had to ask him what the show was!WinkLOL
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Originally posted by E-Dub E-Dub wrote:

Laz, I'm seriously considering Holland. We've got a few months before tickets go on sale, but leaning pretty heavy in that direction.

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The Laz household is now committed. This is hopefully the start of something great. We must keep this idea alive, and, of course, make sure we get tickets before they sell outWink
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Well, as you said, I didn't mean anything offensive with it - the words "'re You kidding me" incorporate my feelings of not-understanding (I can't think of the word for this on) why you think CSB is a lesser song than Beautiful. With the exclamation I meant to stimulate you to explain your opinion rather than feel attacked by it. I didn't mean to start the discussion CSB vs. Beautiful, I just wanted to know why you're keeping that opinion, seeing I've already tried to explain why I think CSB fits with the album.

Nonetheless, I am truly sorry, you misunderstood what I was saying, please keep in mind, though, that I am not a native English speaker like you three are, maybe you would say it in a different way than I would: I meant no harmEmbarrassedSmile

I am someone, who has made up his mind very fast and may come of relatively strong - I know it's your opinion, but I don't share it; I am allowed to say what I said and to mean what I meant, you didn't get my intentions when you read it, mainly due to the fact I used the wrong words, I guess.>>

It's quite alright. Like I said, when somebody here (at least) says it, it's sort of in the tone of "are you @#%! crazy??!!"

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Originally posted by lazland lazland wrote:

Originally posted by E-Dub E-Dub wrote:

Laz, I'm seriously considering Holland. We've got a few months before tickets go on sale, but leaning pretty heavy in that direction.

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The Laz household is now committed. This is hopefully the start of something great. We must keep this idea alive, and, of course, make sure we get tickets before they sell outWink


I'll be really surprised if my wife and kid comes along. For myself, I'm really going to make this happen. I've heard the European weekend is amazing. I've always wanted to see Holland, too. Montreal was my first trek out of the country and that's just on the other side of the border from Vermont, for crying out loud.

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I'm incredibly envious!

I'd love to make it to the holland weekend, although between school and everything else its just not a realistic possibility for me. As I said, in 2012 (after I finish school) I definitely plan to travel, and hopefully have that coincide with a Marillion Weekend.

Really hope you guys enjoy it - Would make quite a story for the Round Table!
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over at marillion.com there is a great clip of H crowd surfing at montreal.  eric is in there somewhere.  I was planning to make it to canada for next year's convention but sounds like all you guys are meeting in Holland,  will look into difference in airfare.   kenmar
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Originally posted by E-Dub E-Dub wrote:

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Well, as you said, I didn't mean anything offensive with it - the words "'re You kidding me" incorporate my feelings of not-understanding (I can't think of the word for this on) why you think CSB is a lesser song than Beautiful. With the exclamation I meant to stimulate you to explain your opinion rather than feel attacked by it. I didn't mean to start the discussion CSB vs. Beautiful, I just wanted to know why you're keeping that opinion, seeing I've already tried to explain why I think CSB fits with the album.

Nonetheless, I am truly sorry, you misunderstood what I was saying, please keep in mind, though, that I am not a native English speaker like you three are, maybe you would say it in a different way than I would: I meant no harmEmbarrassedSmile

I am someone, who has made up his mind very fast and may come of relatively strong - I know it's your opinion, but I don't share it; I am allowed to say what I said and to mean what I meant, you didn't get my intentions when you read it, mainly due to the fact I used the wrong words, I guess.>>

It's quite alright. Like I said, when somebody here (at least) says it, it's sort of in the tone of "are you @#%! crazy??!!"

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Originally posted by progkidjoel progkidjoel wrote:

I'm incredibly envious!

I'd love to make it to the holland weekend, although between school and everything else its just not a realistic possibility for me. As I said, in 2012 (after I finish school) I definitely plan to travel, and hopefully have that coincide with a Marillion Weekend.

Really hope you guys enjoy it - Would make quite a story for the Round Table!


Joel, with any luck, the guys will be around and playing great music for many more years yet, and I'm hoping that there will be a return to the UK for the Convention in the not too distant future.

As for the story for the Round Table, we do, of course, have to try to remain fully sober in order to present the full reportWinkLOL
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Originally posted by kenmartree kenmartree wrote:

over at marillion.com there is a great clip of H crowd surfing at montreal.  eric is in there somewhere.  I was planning to make it to canada for next year's convention but sounds like all you guys are meeting in Holland,  will look into difference in airfare.   kenmar


Here's hoping you can make it, Kenmar. There is quite a get together brewing up here.
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Originally posted by kenmartree kenmartree wrote:

over at marillion.com there is a great clip of H crowd surfing at montreal.  eric is in there somewhere.  I was planning to make it to canada for next year's convention but sounds like all you guys are meeting in Holland,  will look into difference in airfare.   kenmar


Which thread is it in? I'll take a look.

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Originally posted by Basíleia Basíleia wrote:

Originally posted by E-Dub E-Dub wrote:

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Well, as you said, I didn't mean anything offensive with it - the words "'re You kidding me" incorporate my feelings of not-understanding (I can't think of the word for this on) why you think CSB is a lesser song than Beautiful. With the exclamation I meant to stimulate you to explain your opinion rather than feel attacked by it. I didn't mean to start the discussion CSB vs. Beautiful, I just wanted to know why you're keeping that opinion, seeing I've already tried to explain why I think CSB fits with the album.

Nonetheless, I am truly sorry, you misunderstood what I was saying, please keep in mind, though, that I am not a native English speaker like you three are, maybe you would say it in a different way than I would: I meant no harmEmbarrassedSmile

I am someone, who has made up his mind very fast and may come of relatively strong - I know it's your opinion, but I don't share it; I am allowed to say what I said and to mean what I meant, you didn't get my intentions when you read it, mainly due to the fact I used the wrong words, I guess.>>

It's quite alright. Like I said, when somebody here (at least) says it, it's sort of in the tone of "are you @#%! crazy??!!"

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I know that now. We're cool?Smile

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This is the one on the site:



Although you can see the crowd a lot clearer in this one.



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