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Points: 367 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 19 2009 at 20:06
Originally posted by Asphalt Asphalt wrote:

Originally posted by Dorsalia Dorsalia wrote:

Next year I'm gonna drag a cat across the floor twice a month and release 24 albums of avant garde experimental post modern imperialistic crap.


Smile Why so touchy? Go ahead. Record your cat and release the albums. See if anyone gets excited Tongue




Oh I've done it before in my own way. And you wouldn't believe the stuff people buy into.
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By the way you do realize music can't be imperialistic. 
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Points: 11420 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 20 2009 at 04:52
Originally posted by Mr ProgFreak Mr ProgFreak wrote:

Maybe another musician will take up the challenge and publish a new album every week in 2010 ... ;-)


I guess if you don't have to abide by any conventional musical rules whatsoever, you can't be accused of breaking any. Personally, I admire John Zorn for setting up that record label of his which is a not for profit co-operative where artists get exposure who would ordinarily never get a sniff of conventional recording contract.

However his music leaves me cold, it sounds like pretend violence for those who've never even been in a fight.
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Originally posted by Blowin Free Blowin Free wrote:

Zorn is a musician whos music is a bit too avant-garde in my taste but I still think that releasing a CD per month is something that only a musical genius could do.
So the quantity of music is the mark of genius? Wink I'd add a couple of adjectives to that proclamation.

Could very well work, who knows. John Frusciante had this six albums in six months thing a few years ago (in the end it was I think five albums and an EP in seven months or something) and most of that stuff that I've heard is really really good. 
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Points: 3584 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 20 2009 at 05:48
Zorn has huge discogs till now, any all albums mostly are great (ok,I didn't hear all, and I know a few terrible of them as well). Frank Zappa had huge amount of albums, was it bad music? Most important, if musician has ideas and know the way how to realize its!
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Points: 10672 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 20 2009 at 07:34
Originally posted by Dorsalia Dorsalia wrote:

Next year I'm gonna drag a cat across the floor twice a month and release 24 albums of avant garde experimental post modern imperialistic crap.


If you do not like the music of John Zorn, maybe you shouldn't be posting here.

Why not let the others have their conversation without any superflous opinions.
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Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

By the way you do realize music can't be imperialistic. 



You are so wrong.

Anyway, in this case I was just joking, Mr. Ford Prefect.
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Points: 15784 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 10 2010 at 22:55
The first release sounds really interesting, and I will definitely be purchasing it. 

An a cappella album featuring Book of Angels material:


Mycale: Mycale: The Book of Angels Volume 13 [#7378]
Get ready for a whole new approach to Masada music! Expressive and passionate, Basya Schecter, Ayelet Rose Gottlieb, Malika Zarra and Sofia Rei Koutsovitis are four of the most creative vocalists around. Each the leader of a dynamic band of their own, they come together here in an intimate a cappella setting to interpret eleven songs from Zorn's remarkable Book of Angels. With lyrics in Hebrew, Yiddish, Ladino, French and Arabic drawn from Rumi, Fernando Pessoa, The Hebrew Bible and more, the Masada vocal project is perhaps the most hauntingly beautiful installments in the entire Angels series. Dynamic and evocative New Jewish Music from  
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Sounds interesting!
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Points: 166183 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 11 2010 at 17:09
Indeed!
 
I'll probably pick it up eventually. I'm always looking for strange a capalla albusm.
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Originally posted by Man With Hat Man With Hat wrote:

Indeed!
 
I'll probably pick it up eventually. I'm always looking for strange a capalla albusm.

OT, but if this is the case you really must check out this little gem: http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=23124
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Points: 3968 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 13 2010 at 10:08
So do you think you can recommend me to start with his newest (2010) releases ? I've never heard anything from him.
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Points: 3584 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 13 2010 at 10:29
Hey,Marty, I still didn't heard Zorn's new release, so it's difficult to say something about it. But as old Zorn's fan I can recommend just to start from Naked City. Zorn has huge discogs of very different music, so better go step by step, because some mistake can just shock you. From another hand, he has many accessible albums, as Masadas ( if you like klezmer-influenced  sound)
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Points: 8138 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 13 2010 at 10:43
His CDs are very expensive, the good news would be to find them at a lower price. Given the fact that his discography will expand exponentially, he could foresee that in the near future.
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Points: 3584 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 13 2010 at 10:58
^Wink Yes, he is a nightmare for completist!
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Points: 900 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 13 2010 at 16:22
I thought Naked City was awful, aside from the first track. The Masada albums are really cool, though.
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Points: 3584 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 13 2010 at 16:28
^It depends on your taste. Just Naked City is heavy radical metal-influenced avant, when Masadas are all kletzmer-based world-avant. Very different categories, but I like both ( as well as his solo works)
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Points: 7003 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 13 2010 at 16:38
Well I suppose it was inevitable that Zorn would slow down sooner or later Wink.
 
It's probably best to cherry pick these releases - Astronome is the one that seems most exciting to me, whereas much as I love Fred Frith I find it hard to get too worked up about another Frith/Zorn improv session.
 
As for Haemophiliac - I still have it on my ipod and revisit it once in a while; it's definitely an album to be taken in small doses, but it is worth persevering with.
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Points: 900 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 13 2010 at 19:01
The truth is I'm not that into his excessive free jazz and nasty avant stuff. He makes incredible music when he puts it together. I'm not a hater of avant stuff, though it often takes me some time to appreciate. It's just, comparing the clever world jazz of Masada to the greasy and sharp chainsaw action of Naked City, the interest lies really heavily to one side.

Although if anyone could direct me to some of his better, and perchance slightly less free, jazz recordings, that could be neat. Maybe I just need another inroad for the fellow's stuff. He can solo like a demon...
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