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JLocke

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Posted: February 27 2010 at 12:49

CPicard wrote:

. . . a lot of people are expecting the disappearance of the CD . . .

^ 'A lot of people' tend to be wrong. Wink

Edited by JLocke - February 27 2010 at 12:55

CPicard

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Posted: February 27 2010 at 12:32

Well, a lot of people are expecting the disappearance of the CD, but, since the lifetime of the mp3 files is rather dubious (evolution of the technology, problems of formats from a media to another, quick obsolescence), I guess many people will ask for any physical format to keep their music for more time than 10 or 15 years.

JLocke

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Posted: February 27 2010 at 12:07

^ Jeff, what makes you think a virtually unknown format such as SACD will ever gain an edge over CD?

J-Man

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Posted: February 27 2010 at 11:54

I honestly think that the CD will be gone be 2019, but I highly doubt that physical media will EVER go away. I'd estimate that by 2019 SACD's will have completely replaced CD's, but MP3's will never completely replace physical media.

Audiophiles, collectors, and people like me who like to actually physically own something will be enough to keep the CD/SACD market alive and well. I love MP3's as temporary samples of bands, but I will always buy the album in physical form if I enjoy it.

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JLocke

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Posted: February 27 2010 at 11:35

^ Not at all. As long as there is still a market for something, it will still be made available. Just look at vinyl.

No . . . I expect purely digital media and physical media to co-exist for quite some time. And even when/if physical media no longer becomes the norm, there will still be a collector's market for it.

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Posted: February 27 2010 at 11:32

JLocke wrote:

Anybody who says physical media will stop being sold is an idiot.

. . . with all respect. Embarrassed

But why? It seems quite possible scenario.

Percussion, sir!

JLocke

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Posted: February 27 2010 at 11:26

Anybody who says physical media will stop being sold is an idiot.

. . . with all respect. Embarrassed

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Posted: February 27 2010 at 10:24

I sincerely hope and pray that CDs do not disappear soon. I love buying CDs and having the whole physical album so much more than buying electronically.

mono

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Posted: January 15 2010 at 02:23

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Since this topic has come up more times than I can count since I've been on this site in some form or the other, I always have to drop in this cartoon: cartoon

hehehe, thank you for that, helped me start the day!

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Posted: January 14 2010 at 23:37

Commerially produced CD's will probably fade sometime this decade like how the compact cassette tape did in the earlier part of the previous decade .So the mp3, ipod, blah, blah, blah will be with us for some time. But for a tangable format vinyl is king and making a big comeback if not already. It's the only time proven format that still with us after over a century. Sure they've fallen out of mainstream popularity in last 15 or 20 so years but sales of new vinyl are picking up again in a big way. Heck my band releases stuff on vinyl in addition to downloads, etc. All the other formats may be more convienent but are boring as f*ck in my opinion and in addition are not true to form.

Edited by guitargods2009 - January 14 2010 at 23:39

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Posted: January 14 2010 at 06:23

I don't think they were still a lot of CD's left in 2019. If i can't buy cd's, i will have to buy a MP3 player with a large memory and find a way to preserve those MP3 on some CD that can keep a lot of files in it.

Edited by rdtprog - January 14 2010 at 06:24

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Posted: January 13 2010 at 20:32

I don't have issues with CDs going away. They're just digital files on a disc. CDs have more in common with downloads than they do with vinyl, in my opinion.

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Posted: January 13 2010 at 17:48

I'm a product of the digital age, so almost all of my music is digital. I only own 16 CDs, most of which I couldn't legally download online Tongue

(like good ol' King Crimson; I just need Lizard before I own all their 70's material).

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Posted: January 12 2010 at 07:42

jampa17 wrote:

I want to by some vynils and I don't have where to reproduce it... it's more like fetishism... for collection... for emotinoal matters...

Since this topic has come up more times than I can count since I've been on this site in some form or the other, I always have to drop in this cartoon:
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Edited by Slartibartfast - January 12 2010 at 07:44

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Posted: January 11 2010 at 22:43

Kashmir75 wrote:

Certainly, the concept of 'albums' dies as soon as physical media does.

Why? There's no reason for it to. People like Pitchfork go on and on about the death of the album, usually in conjuction with Kid A being the last album, but that's stupid. It's only gone for people who weren't interested in the concept of an album in the first place. Do you think John Zorn or Sleepytime Gorilla Museum are going to start writing pop songs just because you buy their album as a download instead of a CD?

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Kashmir75

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Posted: January 11 2010 at 22:22

If artists only release material as Mp3 files, or any other kind of cyberspace format, I won't be buying it. I need something physical. I am buying up on CDs while I can, coz I don't know how much longer the format will be mainstream, and not a niche market for collectors.

The end of CDs is the end of prog. There, I said it. Prog fans are usually album-oriented listeners. Progressive music really does not work as singles or once-off releases when a band decides to do it. Certainly, the concept of 'albums' dies as soon as physical media does.

If Radiohead don't want to do albums anymore, but will release a new track online when they deign to, good on them. But I won't be buying it. When In Rainbows came out, I waited for the physical in-store CD release! LOL

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jampa17

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Posted: January 08 2010 at 08:43

I want to by some vynils and I don't have where to reproduce it... it's more like fetishism... for collection... for emotinoal matters...

Change the program inside... Stay in silence is a crime.

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Posted: January 08 2010 at 08:11

I'm pretty sure there aren't many people who can play an 8-track cartridge these days!

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Posted: January 08 2010 at 07:55

A Person wrote:

Henry Plainview wrote:

chopper wrote:

There are still some people releasing music on cassette!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/8441839.stm

That's kind of dumb.

"You can make funny noises with cassettes," says Mr Turner, a lifelong cassette enthusiast. "You can do all sorts of things. It's just cute. Kids love them. And not just kids. I'm 55 and I love them."

okay...

"Format fetishism". I like it! Smile