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Posted: May 28 2009 at 04:18

Cool, I'll try to gather some material in the meantime!

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Posted: July 30 2009 at 16:09

I am also thinking about SCH (Sarajevo). I sent a query here:

http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=59995&PID=3329691#3329691

They are quite radical in many musical aspects. I wonder would they qualify for PA. Any views on that?

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Posted: August 08 2009 at 10:52

I added solo albums of Davorin Popovic here:
http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=4694

Since most of them featured one or another version of Indexi as backing band, I felt this is justified to have complete disography of albums where key Indexi members (Kovacevic, Redzic, Popovic) participated.

And also his debut LP is technically an INDEXI album, containing several excellent borderline prog songs.

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Posted: August 08 2009 at 16:05

Devil Doll - REALLY strange, very theatrical heavy prog. Strong gothic influence.

Psycho Symphony - Progressive metal from none other than Transylvania, not great on the vocals but very cool psychedelia

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Posted: August 29 2009 at 04:42

I added several album reviews of Josipa Lisac recently...

http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=3032

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Posted: October 31 2009 at 06:34

A good ole Kornelije Kovac was added here:

http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=4953

As a member of INDEXI and founder of KORNI GRUPA, he was a pioneer of progressive rock in exYU, although his solo works are perhaps not too interesting, hence he goes under "prog-related" only.

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Posted: November 01 2009 at 16:58

Please read my review of PORODICNA MANUFAKTURA album "Stvaranje":

http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=247679

You are allowed to disagree, of course... ;)

Enjoy

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Posted: January 04 2010 at 14:02

This might sound stupid, but: "What about Siddartha? Are they prog or (some kind of) pop rock commercial?" Cause that's the way that some of the new stuff sounds to me. Found also two other bands with that name.

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Posted: January 04 2010 at 14:30

Never heard of them. From which period do they belong? Are they from exYU or what?

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Posted: January 05 2010 at 08:39

No, they're slovenian and I think they started in the '90s.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-7bnmG2yWI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmraOE3h36k&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkpwyU9HnF8&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOf8Jtp313w
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOCefvsZv6k&feature=related
Here's some songs worth listening. Too bad, they've lost their sax player. His jazzy soloing was one of the best things about Siddharta.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23nuhsEAjr4
Yeah, but they DO sound quite commercial.

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Posted: January 06 2010 at 10:21

Thanks for the links provided.

At first listen, I do not hear many prog elements. For me this falls within the "mainstream" pop-rock, with occasional metal riffs. I do not know what is their status in Slovenia, but there are plenty similar-sounding bands across ex-YU countries.

I am personally attached more to the old, classic progressive sound of the 1970s, so I might be too strict critic towards "new" bands (for me, "new" means anything after the demise of vinyl records and start of CD era, roughly 1990, which is also the end of Yugoslavian music scene). More often than not I found "old" music better to listen than "new" music, with very few exceptions.

Cheers!

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Posted: January 06 2010 at 12:41

Thanks to you for the opinion. I have the same feeling about their music, but I think that there is some prog in their music, though they really are the most popular Slovenian band and probably want to be a little "different," but yeah, not really icons of alternative music. I think they're supposed to be more about lyrics, but I have never gone into that.

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Posted: January 07 2010 at 13:40

Siddharta is indeed one of the most succesful bands in Slovenia (more succesful being only Terrafolk (prog folk band that won BBC award for live performance) and Laibach (industrial metal band)). They are quite commercially oriented (they are the first Slovenian band that was on the MTV and they were on top of week's charts or smth), but they still have some good music to offer. Their bass player, Jani Hace, is considered as the best Slovenian bass player, and plays in other bands as well (Elevators and Dedu za petami, both jazz fusion bands). Their music isn't really pop-rock in my opinion, more rock, hard rock. They have some prog elements (jazzy sax, they played with Big band RTV Slovenia, so the music was quite colorful, eclectic; some symphonic ones as well), but not much, maybe they would be, I don't know, prog related or smth, if they would be listed on PA.
Here are some of their best songs:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JjeIj87OGIE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ImLMN-dLH_M (from the newest album, Saga, that was produced by Ross Robinson (Korn...)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BzxCOos9ELQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZqbM9RyEV4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDifJ-8Epkg
They are quite good in my opinion, but there are many much better bands on the (underground) scene right now - two of my favourites are Moonlight Sky (prog rock - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rq8_c5nMlGQ) and Feedback (jazz-rock - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmUQi60drmI). Also, there is much better music from ex-yu, for example, from Slovenia, Predmestje, September, Izvir, Buldožer (that still exists) etc.

Edited by kole - January 07 2010 at 13:52

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Posted: January 08 2010 at 08:52

Yeah, there's also a bit unusual instruments in the studio and live versions.

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clarke2001 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: June 14 2006 Location: Croatia Status: Offline Points: 4160	Posted: May 28 2009 at 04:18
	Cool, I'll try to gather some material in the meantime!

Seyo Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: May 08 2004 Location: Bosnia Status: Offline Points: 1320	Posted: July 30 2009 at 16:09
	I am also thinking about SCH (Sarajevo). I sent a query here: http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=59995&PID=3329691#3329691 They are quite radical in many musical aspects. I wonder would they qualify for PA. Any views on that?

Seyo Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: May 08 2004 Location: Bosnia Status: Offline Points: 1320	Posted: August 08 2009 at 10:52
	I added solo albums of Davorin Popovic here: http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=4694 Since most of them featured one or another version of Indexi as backing band, I felt this is justified to have complete disography of albums where key Indexi members (Kovacevic, Redzic, Popovic) participated. And also his debut LP is technically an INDEXI album, containing several excellent borderline prog songs.

Conor Fynes Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Prog Reviewer Joined: February 11 2009 Location: Vancouver, CA Status: Offline Points: 3196	Posted: August 08 2009 at 16:05
	Devil Doll - REALLY strange, very theatrical heavy prog. Strong gothic influence. Psycho Symphony - Progressive metal from none other than Transylvania, not great on the vocals but very cool psychedelia

Seyo Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: May 08 2004 Location: Bosnia Status: Offline Points: 1320	Posted: August 29 2009 at 04:42
	I added several album reviews of Josipa Lisac recently... http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=3032

Seyo Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: May 08 2004 Location: Bosnia Status: Offline Points: 1320	Posted: October 31 2009 at 06:34
	A good ole Kornelije Kovac was added here: http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=4953 As a member of INDEXI and founder of KORNI GRUPA, he was a pioneer of progressive rock in exYU, although his solo works are perhaps not too interesting, hence he goes under "prog-related" only.

Seyo Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: May 08 2004 Location: Bosnia Status: Offline Points: 1320	Posted: November 01 2009 at 16:58
	Please read my review of PORODICNA MANUFAKTURA album "Stvaranje": http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=247679 You are allowed to disagree, of course... ;) Enjoy

AbrahamSapien Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member Joined: December 27 2009 Location: Slovenia Status: Offline Points: 181	Posted: January 04 2010 at 14:02
	This might sound stupid, but: "What about Siddartha? Are they prog or (some kind of) pop rock commercial?" Cause that's the way that some of the new stuff sounds to me. Found also two other bands with that name.

Seyo Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: May 08 2004 Location: Bosnia Status: Offline Points: 1320	Posted: January 04 2010 at 14:30
	Never heard of them. From which period do they belong? Are they from exYU or what?

AbrahamSapien Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member Joined: December 27 2009 Location: Slovenia Status: Offline Points: 181	Posted: January 05 2010 at 08:39
	No, they're slovenian and I think they started in the '90s. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-7bnmG2yWI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmraOE3h36k&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkpwyU9HnF8&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOf8Jtp313w http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOCefvsZv6k&feature=related Here's some songs worth listening. Too bad, they've lost their sax player. His jazzy soloing was one of the best things about Siddharta. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23nuhsEAjr4 Yeah, but they DO sound quite commercial.

Seyo Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: May 08 2004 Location: Bosnia Status: Offline Points: 1320	Posted: January 06 2010 at 10:21
	Thanks for the links provided. At first listen, I do not hear many prog elements. For me this falls within the "mainstream" pop-rock, with occasional metal riffs. I do not know what is their status in Slovenia, but there are plenty similar-sounding bands across ex-YU countries. I am personally attached more to the old, classic progressive sound of the 1970s, so I might be too strict critic towards "new" bands (for me, "new" means anything after the demise of vinyl records and start of CD era, roughly 1990, which is also the end of Yugoslavian music scene). More often than not I found "old" music better to listen than "new" music, with very few exceptions. Cheers!

AbrahamSapien Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member Joined: December 27 2009 Location: Slovenia Status: Offline Points: 181	Posted: January 06 2010 at 12:41
	Thanks to you for the opinion. I have the same feeling about their music, but I think that there is some prog in their music, though they really are the most popular Slovenian band and probably want to be a little "different," but yeah, not really icons of alternative music. I think they're supposed to be more about lyrics, but I have never gone into that.

kole Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member Joined: October 15 2009 Location: Slovenia Status: Offline Points: 296	Posted: January 07 2010 at 13:40
	Siddharta is indeed one of the most succesful bands in Slovenia (more succesful being only Terrafolk (prog folk band that won BBC award for live performance) and Laibach (industrial metal band)). They are quite commercially oriented (they are the first Slovenian band that was on the MTV and they were on top of week's charts or smth), but they still have some good music to offer. Their bass player, Jani Hace, is considered as the best Slovenian bass player, and plays in other bands as well (Elevators and Dedu za petami, both jazz fusion bands). Their music isn't really pop-rock in my opinion, more rock, hard rock. They have some prog elements (jazzy sax, they played with Big band RTV Slovenia, so the music was quite colorful, eclectic; some symphonic ones as well), but not much, maybe they would be, I don't know, prog related or smth, if they would be listed on PA. Here are some of their best songs: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JjeIj87OGIE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ImLMN-dLH_M (from the newest album, Saga, that was produced by Ross Robinson (Korn...) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BzxCOos9ELQ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZqbM9RyEV4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDifJ-8Epkg They are quite good in my opinion, but there are many much better bands on the (underground) scene right now - two of my favourites are Moonlight Sky (prog rock - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rq8_c5nMlGQ) and Feedback (jazz-rock - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmUQi60drmI). Also, there is much better music from ex-yu, for example, from Slovenia, Predmestje, September, Izvir, Buldožer (that still exists) etc. Edited by kole - January 07 2010 at 13:52

AbrahamSapien Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member Joined: December 27 2009 Location: Slovenia Status: Offline Points: 181	Posted: January 08 2010 at 08:52
	Yeah, there's also a bit unusual instruments in the studio and live versions.