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LOUDTRAX
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Posted: December 07 2009 at 15:16 |
NJCat_11 wrote:
In no particular order...
Criss Oliva (R.I.P.)
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Criss Oliva, very cool mention.
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NJCat_11
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Posted: December 07 2009 at 16:35 |
LOUDTRAX wrote:
NJCat_11 wrote:
In no particular order...
Criss Oliva (R.I.P.)
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Criss Oliva, very cool mention.
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Thanks, Criss's guitar work had something very special and unique that has become uncommon these days (it may have been his perfect sense of phrasing)
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ten years after
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Posted: December 08 2009 at 01:50 |
I'm impressed that this thread hasn't been moved to general music discussions. Some reasonably prog-related threads have suffered that fate whereas this one has almost nothing to do with prog.
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Dorsalia
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Posted: December 09 2009 at 08:40 |
Em, this is in General Music Discussions.
Cheers.
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"Es ist übrigens unmöglich, eine Meinung zu haben, ohne dass es unerfreuliche Überschneidungen gibt. Die Grünen sind für den deutschen Wald, die NPD ebenfalls."
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Trademark
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Posted: December 09 2009 at 10:47 |
Michael Torke Peter Boyer Michael Daugherty Mark Phillips Dan McCarthy Eric Honour Aaron Jay Kernis Kenneth Fuchs John Harbison William Bolcom
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keaton4
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Posted: December 09 2009 at 11:03 |
Bartok rules. His conception of rhythm (particularly in his string quartets) reminds me a lot of King Crimson's later albums.
1) Reich (***Philip Glass=mediocre Steve Reich) 2) Stravinsky 3) Bartok 4) Satie 5) Cage 6) Tchaikovsky 7) Bach 8) Rachmaninoff 9) Hindemith 10) Davis
Philip Glass does have some fantastic string pieces, but a majority of his organ-centric works (ie Einstein on the Beach) are positively abhorrent after listening to Steve Reich IMO.
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Equality 7-2521
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Posted: December 09 2009 at 11:11 |
I've always thought anyone who could confuse a Reich piece for a Glass piece would have to be listening pretty superficially to both.
I also find it funny that Glass is criticized by many listeners for the same reason Reich has been censured by music critics.
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keaton4
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Posted: December 09 2009 at 14:20 |
I agree completely! It seems like anytime somebody hears about a piece centered on repetition they pigeonhole the entire thing. Minimalism is kind of a misnomer in that regard... "Minimalists" like Reich and Glass are responsible for some of the most complex, exciting music I've come across.
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"My music is best understood by children and animals"
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Trademark
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Posted: December 09 2009 at 14:42 |
" Bartok rules. His conception of rhythm (particularly in his string quartets) reminds me a lot of King Crimson's later albums."
Splitting hairs of course, but I think you mean this the other way around, what with Bartok being dead a year before Fripp was born and all.
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Equality 7-2521
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Posted: December 09 2009 at 16:18 |
keaton4 wrote:
I agree completely! It seems like anytime somebody hears about a piece centered on repetition they pigeonhole the entire thing. Minimalism is kind of a misnomer in that regard... "Minimalists" like Reich and Glass are responsible for some of the most complex, exciting music I've come across.
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Hmm I think you misunderstood. I was saying all that in response to you belittling Glass.
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"One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. "
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Rocktopus
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Posted: December 09 2009 at 17:16 |
keaton4 wrote:
Bartok rules. His conception of rhythm (particularly in his string quartets) reminds me a lot of King Crimson's later albums.
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I had this feeling I was forgetting someone very important. This is more like it:
Rocktopus wrote:
Dimitri Shostakovich
Franz Schubert
J.S. Bach
Bela Bartok Giacinto Scelsi
Krzysztof Penderecki
Ludwig Van Beethoven
Morton Feldman Kaija Saariaho Erik Satie
Maurice Ravel
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Over land and under ashes
In the sunlight, see - it flashes
Find a fly and eat his eye
But don't believe in me
Don't believe in me
Don't believe in me
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progrules
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Posted: December 10 2009 at 02:26 |
1. Edvard Grieg
2. Ludwig van Beethoven
3. Pjotr Iljich Tchaikovsky
4. Frédéric Chopin
5. Felix Mendelssohn Bartholdy
6. Camille Saint Saens
7. Franz Schubert
8. Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart
9. Max Bruch
10. Antonio Vivaldi
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A day without prog is a wasted day
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Noak
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Posted: December 10 2009 at 15:06 |
Zappa, Mingus, Satie, Debussy, Chopin, Stravinsky, Tchaikovsky, Beethoven, Bach, Bartók.
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Zebedee
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Posted: December 11 2009 at 12:12 |
1. Johann Sebastian Bach (The Master) 2. Edvard Grieg (obviously ) 3. Ludwig von Beethoven 4. Frédéric Chopin 5. Pjotr Iljich Tchaikovsky 6. Gabriel Fauré 7. Felix Mendelssohn 8. Jean Sibelius 9. Johannes Brahms 10. Can't choose between Antonín Dvořák and Maurice Ravel
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Friendship is like wetting your pants: everyone can see it, but only you can feel its warmth.
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St.Cleve Chronicle
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Posted: December 12 2009 at 05:41 |
Mussorgsky and Bach are my favourite classical composers.
From other music my favourites include Daniel Gildenlöw, Tony Kakko, Mikael Åkerfeldt, Kerry Minnear, Ray Shulman, Frank Zappa and Kerry Livgren.
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Bonnek
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Posted: December 13 2009 at 14:10 |
Mussorgsky Prokofiev Mozart Stravinsky Bach Wagner Glass
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ProgressiveAttic
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Posted: December 13 2009 at 16:10 |
Alberto Ginastera
Joaquín Rodrigo
Modest Mussorgsky
Bela Bartok
Edward Grieg
Rimsky Korsakov
Manuel de Falla
Ludwig van Beethoven
J. S. Bach
Aldemaro Romero
Aron Copland
Claude Debussy
Steve Reich
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Richard L.
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Posted: December 14 2009 at 09:51 |
Beethoven-- ushered in the Romantic movement of classical music. Supreme symphonist! Dvorak-- very "listener friendly" compositions Brahms-- his symphonies 2-4 are especially nice. Rick Wakeman liked his 4th Symphony! Schumann-- symphonies 1 and 4 Respighi-- his "Pines of Rome", "Ancient Airs and Dances" & "Three Botticelli Pictures" Rimsky-Korsakov-- "Scheherazade" and his three symphonies Borodin-- his "Polovetsian Dances" and his two, excellent symphonies Tchaikovsky-- His 5th and 6th Symphonies and ballets are among the greatest! Glazunov-- His :"Seasons" and symphonies 1,4,5, and 7. Delius-- his "Florida Suite", "In A Summer Garden" and other short pieces Elgar-- his "Enigma Variations" Grieg-- his "Peer Gynt Suites" Mahler-- Symphonies 1,and 5 especially Bruckner-- his 4th ("Romantic") symphomy Sibelius- "Finlandia" and his symphonies. All his works are dark and brooding but beautiful.
Sorry I couldn't keep the list down to just 10. It would be just as hard to list only 10 favorite prog groups!
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Richard S. Ledford
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Eetu Pellonpaa
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Posted: December 17 2009 at 00:21 |
It's nice to see Sibelius is being mentioned. If you get a change to check out his "Wood Nymph" tonal poem or "Lemminkäinen Suite", I'll recommend them.
It's also fun to read that many prog rock fans like symphonic classical music. Quite obvious, as many prog rock bands blend elements from this area to rock context. I just think there is a big barrier between these worlds. Many classical music elitists hate all rock, and many rock fans seem to dislike boring and elitistic classical art music (just my own impressions btw, not any "acclaimed fact"). Hopefully bridges between these areas could be built, as I believe synergies of these musical areas create interesting crossover potentials. Just listened ELP's Ginastera piece and got confirmed how good it sounds.
Sorry for small opening out, please post more favourite lists!
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moreitsythanyou
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Posted: December 17 2009 at 00:27 |
Reich Dvorak Mahler Shostakovich Riley Beethoven Stravinsky Messiaen Ives Rachmaninoff
not exactly in any order
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