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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 18 2004 at 16:30

Firstly, im glad to see you peter i havent read one of your tantelising post for a while and it warms my heart to hear from you (over the top but you get the point). Its also great to see you have returned my Reedlover, i for one am glad your back.

I don't have much to say on the subject of this debate as i have never posessed a gun and will hopefully never feel the need to. I f u really need to protect your self you can buy perfecly good knives or even better pepper spray. I personally own thrrowing knives but never carry them in public (well... sometimes). I would rather see all guns destroyed (thers nothing like a bit of medeival combat (joke). Seriously i would like guns to be banned but i also realise this is not possible.Guns could be banned but so many people own them that is it possible to make sure every gun is returned.

Its human nature to want to kill someone every now and again but its the ability to override these thaughts that makes us rationable and not complete psychos. However some people are complete psychos for watevere reason (parenting, disabliity, peer pressure etc). My point is that the blame for the crime must fall on th eperson who commits it. So guns do kill people but only because people make them. The guns have no choice in the matter and cant give much defense in court. For this reason the responsibilty is for the gun carrier to make sure it isnt misused.

I see taht both sides of the debate present a good argument but im in favour of the less guns the better. Now lets roll a joint and sing along to "leave it" (YES).

Guys nad gals never forget "A real froob knows where his towel is"

IM WELL AWARE OF THE SPELLING MISTAKES AND AM TO LAZY TO CORRECT THEM LOL



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 18 2004 at 16:39

Are we saying that deer should be culled because they are inconvenient?Confused

I find hunting for sport to be barbaric in the sense that it I can find no justification for anyone to kill anything senselessly. However as long as the hunting is for food eg not just for a trophy,then I cant really muster a valid argument against it.

I think vegetarians Angryare just as pathetic as hunters.Angry




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 18 2004 at 16:52

One must always eat what they hunt, right girls?

Actually, in the US, I'm not sure about other countries, deer and some other native animals are hunted, by PERMIT, in order to keep the populations under control. When there is over-population, many deer (and others) starve due to limited food availability. The permits are issued on the basis of the animal population. Deer are not hunted merely because they are an inconvience.

I totally abhor trophy hunting or fishing.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 18 2004 at 17:26
Originally posted by Reed Lover Reed Lover wrote:

Are we saying that deer should be culled because they are inconvenient?Confused

I find hunting for sport to be barbaric in the sense that it I can find no justification for anyone to kill anything senselessly. However as long as the hunting is for food eg not just for a trophy,then I cant really muster a valid argument against it.

I think vegetarians Angryare just as pathetic as hunters.Angry

When a family plows into a deer that stepped out onto the highway at 65 mph and their son or daughter flies through the windshield I will be sure to let them know we couldn't keep the deer population down just because it was an "inconvenience"

All over the midwest we have restaurants adorned with animal trophies on the walls so it is pretty much the norm here. There's a particular pizza place that has this squirrel armed with a bow and arrow up on a shelf...that one is my favorite...that's what I call CLASS.

Actually I belong to PETA

P...People

E...Eating

T...Tasty

A...Animals

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 18 2004 at 17:53

We have had a big problem in New Jersey also with deers causing really bad car accidents.  One reason I love the City... if my subway hits a deer, I'll never feel it...

However I was in Australia a couple of years ago when they had open season on killing kangeroos... that was not nice... and some of the restaurants were serving kangeroo burgers...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 18 2004 at 18:02

Before long, we'll all be eating Soilent Green. That's why I had "Eat Me" tattooed on my arse.

Speed laws are to blame. Being alert and cautious, as well as reducing speed in highly travelled deer crossing areas really makes a difference. About one third of the deer/auto accidents I'm familiar with could have been avoided. Believe me, I've seen about two a week in just over five years. People forget that the animals were there long before we came on the scene.   

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 18 2004 at 18:05
Originally posted by gdub411 gdub411 wrote:

Originally posted by Reed Lover Reed Lover wrote:

Are we saying that deer should be culled because they are inconvenient?Confused

I find hunting for sport to be barbaric in the sense that it I can find no justification for anyone to kill anything senselessly. However as long as the hunting is for food eg not just for a trophy,then I cant really muster a valid argument against it.

I think vegetarians Angryare just as pathetic as hunters.Angry

When a family plows into a deer that stepped out onto the highway at 65 mph and their son or daughter flies through the windshield I will be sure to let them know we couldn't keep the deer population down just because it was an "inconvenience"

I am absolutely certain that if this "family" had been wearing seat belts they would NOT have gone through the windshield!Confused

BTW I am pretty certain that I drive well enough not to hit anything on the roads. Greg you should not be reading "Playgirl" whilst driving your van!LOL




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 18 2004 at 18:06
Originally posted by danbo danbo wrote:

Before long, we'll all be eating Soilent Green. That's why I had "Eat Me" tattooed on my arse.

Speed laws are to blame. Being alert and cautious, as well as reducing speed in highly travelled deer crossing areas really makes a difference. About one third of the deer/auto accidents I'm familiar with could have been avoided. Believe me, I've seen about two a week in just over five years. People forget that the animals were there long before we came on the scene.   

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 18 2004 at 18:09

We used to award 100 points if you could knock down an old dear, when i was a boy racer!LOL

Oh no offence intended 3F8T's




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 18 2004 at 18:31

Ah yes, Seatbelts. Another component that changes outcomes.

 

Are seatbelts required in England and Europe? It seems to me that it doesn't really matter with some of those minis. A healthy beaver would incapacitate one of those motorized rollerskates.

Sincerely, deer are the reason I bought a truck. A little higher and a hell of a lot more solid then any sedan.  

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 18 2004 at 18:32
Who needs porno mags when ya got the internet
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 18 2004 at 18:32
Originally posted by Reed Lover Reed Lover wrote:

We used to award 100 points if you could knock down an old dear, when i was a boy racer!LOL

Oh no offence intended 3F8T's

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 18 2004 at 18:34

Well here in southern california it is important to have our .44 magnums as we speed (when Possible) at 85 mph to kill any field mice or lizzards or gang members that might iccky up our tires. 

 In parts of this country hunting is a way of life.  These people grow up that way learning to properly handle guns.  In fact here is a picture that will show you the caliber of people we are dealing with:

 

 

http://www.kansasmusicalartist.com/shower.jpg

 

See any of these guys before Gdub.

 

In all seriousness I own no guns have fired one once in my life and never expect to ever.  BUT I have a real problem giving up rights if the guns go first Free speach is next and so on. 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 18 2004 at 18:34

Always thought it was a documentary myself!

I'll bet my Range Rover against any old gas guzzler you've got!




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 18 2004 at 18:36
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 18 2004 at 18:40

Originally posted by gdub411 gdub411 wrote:

Who needs porno mags when ya got the internet

You surf the web whilst you drive your van,Confused no wonder your always hitting defenceless animals!LOL




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 18 2004 at 18:43

I drive a Hyundai...hardly a gas guzzler....too poor to throw money away on SUVS

I think we should take the oil from Iraq-that outa lower the prices...eh Reed Lover

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 18 2004 at 18:47
Originally posted by gdub411 gdub411 wrote:

I think we should take the oil from Iraq-that outa lower the prices...eh Reed Lover

GNFF@@@FFF%%%SSS((*^GGFDDAngry

reel em in son!

You'll not get me that easyLOL




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 18 2004 at 18:57

and then we ought to set to conquering the world and assimilate everyone else into our culture...I mean we're the richest and greatest country on earth so who wouldn't want that?

We're like the Borg....but a benevolent,wonderful Borg

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 18 2004 at 19:03

reel em in son!

No way you gonna reel me in boy!LOL




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