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mukster
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Topic: Who influenced Yes? Posted: November 29 2009 at 23:16 |
So I always hear how many bands the original "prog" bands influenced, but here is a question: who influenced Yes? Are there any bands that these guys listened to that helped them create their sound?
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Equality 7-2521
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Posted: November 30 2009 at 00:04 |
Simon and Garfunkel were a big influence on Yes.
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Eetu Pellonpaa
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Posted: November 30 2009 at 00:09 |
As one band, I have understood The Byrds were among them ("I See You" is in their 1st album, and they are also strong with multivocal harmonies in their 1st album).
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Kestrel
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Posted: November 30 2009 at 00:56 |
From Wikipedia's article on Chris Squire:
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TheLastBaron
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Posted: November 30 2009 at 01:14 |
I would say that definetly the beatles, they were an influence on so many early prog bands
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" Men are not prisoners of fate, but prisoners of their own minds." - FDR
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Jake Kobrin
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Posted: November 30 2009 at 02:21 |
Perhaps LSD was amongst them...
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Trianium
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Posted: November 30 2009 at 03:32 |
The Beatles, Pink Floyd, probably The Doors, King Crimson...
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Dick Heath
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Posted: November 30 2009 at 04:13 |
And never forget Hank Marvin/the Shadows!
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Moogtron III
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Posted: November 30 2009 at 04:57 |
They say also: Vanilla Fudge.
Oh, and don't forget Buffalo Springfield. And have Crosby, Stills, Nash and Young not influenced Yes? If you listen to "Carry On" on Deja Vu: some parts of Yes' "Yours Is No Disgrace" remind me of that song. Edited by Moogtron III - November 30 2009 at 05:00 |
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harmonium.ro
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Posted: November 30 2009 at 05:20 |
This is from Bill's blog:
Quick answers for james hyden - 16/09/2009 23:04:09 . who wants to know 1) what kind of music were you guys (by 'you guys' i mean, 'yes men' during the yes years (of 1968-1973) listening to? I played Chris Squire Art Blakey and Coltrane, Squire played Anderson the Vanilla Fudge and Syn, Anderson played Kaye Sibelius and Mahler, and Peter Banks played me Wes Montgomery and Pete Townsend. |
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TODDLER
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Posted: November 30 2009 at 07:38 |
As said before Simon and Garfunkel were quite an influence. I believe just in the early days they were. The debut album and Time and a Word. No! wait, I've Seen all good People is a little on the Paul Simon side. Steve Howe was really into a Jim Hall sound especially on the Yes Album. If you listen to The Planets by Holst everyday for about a week, you will also hear direct notation used in Yes songs. But as I said give yourself time to absorb The Planets. Many little ditties by Yes are influenced by various classical composers and not always artists of their genre. The Clap is obviously a ragtime piece. There may be a ragtime guitarist that Howe listened to. Who knows? Or maybe he just listened to a lot of Scott Joplin?
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: November 30 2009 at 09:35 |
Dream Theater.
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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mukster
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Posted: November 30 2009 at 09:59 |
Interesting, looks like I shoulda googled just a bit more
Its interesting that so many "new" prog bands almost shamelessly copy some of the more traditional prog bands and at the same time these more traditional bands needed to grow from somewhere. Traditional isn't really the right word, but it is too early to think yet! Thanks for the input. |
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Dean
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Posted: November 30 2009 at 14:00 |
"Who influenced Yes?" .... no they didn't. |
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What?
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Padraic
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Posted: November 30 2009 at 14:03 |
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: November 30 2009 at 14:09 |
Their best stuff was traveling through uncharted territory, moving away from their influences.
Dream Theater. Edited by Slartibartfast - November 30 2009 at 14:12 |
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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domizia
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Posted: November 30 2009 at 16:23 |
Isn't it amazing the lenght that bands like Yes went from their influences, while new bands nowadays arent' really much more than being good copies of these original prog bands, generally speaking.
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RPI=>Camelot Club Prog ...but also>MaRaCash records.
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Dellinger
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Posted: November 30 2009 at 21:33 |
I guess Steve Howe must have been influenced by Bob Dylan (or at least he liked him a LOT). He even named his son Dylan Howe, and made a tribute album of Bob Dylan.
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villastrangiato
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Posted: November 30 2009 at 22:15 |
I have a hunch that Howe had very disparate influences. Some of his phrasing is straight out of the Hendrix playbook but then on certain early songs you get a bit of a Les Paul and Chet Atkins kind of vibe coming through. He was always a fast and remarkably "clean" player - but towards the late seventies with Drama - it's pretty clear he was drawing upon some inspiration from others coming on the scene in that time period - while the rhythms, speed, and direction of the notes were all Howe, he was getting a more Van Halen-esque tone from the instrument - something that became very evident a couple years later with his stint in Asia.
With Squire, jeez - how can you nail something like that down. The guy is and always was a tremendous innovator. Squire's harmonics experimentations may very well have influenced the great Jaco Pastorius who hit the scene a few years later with Weather Report. What can you say about a guy like that? Is there anybody that made bass sounds like Squire before there was Squire? - I'm not aware of anyone..... Bruford was another trendsetter. I can't think of anyone else before him that combined his intellect and disciplined approach to rock drumming. Yeah there were freaks of nature like Buddy Rich and Gene Krupa - but these guys weren't rhythm/blues/rock based artists - they were big band over achievers. The playing and interviews that Bruford did with King Crimson show a keen understanding of percussion that is more akin to a classically trained percussionist than a rock and roll drummer. Again, how do you spot the influences on an innovating genius - no easy task!
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SergiUriah
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Posted: November 30 2009 at 23:47 |
The Beatles, Beach Boys and Small Faces.
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