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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 22 2009 at 17:09
Camel have some grate flute on Supertwister - Mirage and some lovly playd by Latimer. actualy many Camel songs have some wonderfull flute leads Espessially on Nimrodel/the Procession/the white rider epic Clap  there is a lot of classical and medeval themes (to make it sound more Middelearthly they should uses this song on TLOTR movie or the new Hobbit movie Cool)
ther is Oboe on that tune as well.

Andy Macay play also some grate Woodwinds

then you have Gabriels Obe by Morricone a wonderfull song, combining Oboe with rock Rythem section..
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 22 2009 at 18:14
I also enjoy the violin and flute. The violin brings to mind Curved Air's "Vivaldi" and David Cross' performance in King Crimson. The flute - well Ian Anderson is the prog maestro of this instrument, imo. I too, would love to see more use of classical instruments and medieval. Blackmore's Knight use a variety of unusual classical instruments.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 22 2009 at 18:38
I love almost any woodwind but have a special fondness for harpsichords
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 22 2009 at 18:51
The oboe, Karl Jenkins plays greatly that instrument with Soft Machine and Nucleus if I'm not mistaken.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 22 2009 at 20:03
It HAS to be piano
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 23 2009 at 01:40
well, apart from the piano, which is a standard in the keyboards setup, you can't go wrong with the flute and harpsicord (siberian khatru, anyone?). I don't really care for bowed instruments though (violin, cello etc)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 23 2009 at 18:19
1 Piano

2 Violin and cellos

3 Flute

4 Others
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 23 2009 at 18:29
All of the above. Which classical instrument would not fit into prog? I can't imagine.

What I'd personally like to hear more, though, would be mallet instruments: xylophone, marimba, and vibraphone, which I only really remember hearing in Pierre Moerlen's Gong and in Mike Oldfield, where it's also Pierre Moerlen playing them.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 23 2009 at 18:33
Originally posted by theBox theBox wrote:

well, apart from the piano, which is a standard in the keyboards setup, you can't go wrong with the flute and harpsicord (siberian khatru, anyone?). I don't really care for bowed instruments though (violin, cello etc)


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 23 2009 at 18:34
Violin, cello, soprano sax (if it counts here...), clarinet, and ofcourse piano and other more vintage keyboards...and some great tunes have used  accordeon, which I like a lot.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 23 2009 at 20:28
Hi,
 
This must be the day for silly questions ...
 
What does an instrument have to do with "progressive music" ?
 
Are you trying to corner a definition of prog music to sound just like Genesis?
 
If you want to check out some really progressive stuff (show your ability to listen to music!!! -- instead of a style!!!) ... put on some of the early stuff by Edgerto Gismonti ... btw, he builds his own 8 and 10 string guitars and he can do things with harmonics that you don't even dream about ... you might call that folk, jazz, or anything else ... but in the end ... it's the music that counts ... and compared to everything you or I might listen to ... it's way more progressive and intelligent music than 3/4's of the stuff that we discuss here.
 
There are all kinds of music and many of them have a progressive bunch of folks ... all that means is that those folks want to do more with that traditional this and that than what most people do ... and what you are saying (in the end) is that a piano or keyboard must be present for it to be progressive?
 
That's just sad ...
 
What's next .. ? Women can't be prog?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 23 2009 at 20:51
Originally posted by splyu splyu wrote:

All of the above. Which classical instrument would not fit into prog? I can't imagine.

What I'd personally like to hear more, though, would be mallet instruments: xylophone, marimba, and vibraphone, which I only really remember hearing in Pierre Moerlen's Gong and in Mike Oldfield, where it's also Pierre Moerlen playing them.


Methinks someone needs some Zappa.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 24 2009 at 13:29
Originally posted by WalterDigsTunes WalterDigsTunes wrote:

Originally posted by splyu splyu wrote:

All of the above. Which classical instrument would not fit into prog? I can't imagine.

What I'd personally like to hear more, though, would be mallet instruments: xylophone, marimba, and vibraphone, which I only really remember hearing in Pierre Moerlen's Gong and in Mike Oldfield, where it's also Pierre Moerlen playing them.


Methinks someone needs some Zappa.

Quite possibly! Any albums in particular?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 24 2009 at 14:59
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Quite possibly! Any albums in particular?

Hi,
 
To get a really good feel ... go get the DVD Zappa plays Zappa ... which is his son playing the lead ... all in all the material appears to have "smoothed" out over time, and it sounds better than ever ... after that you can get an idea what Zappa was about ...
 
Very modern by compositional standards, almost adding classical concepts into rock music and mixing the two en force. And also using quite a few modern concepts that were kinda studied in musical departments everywhere ...
 
The nice part is that he helped develop a lot of rock music, and specially soaring solos and the concept of longer cuts for rock music ... in other words, treating rock as classical music and ... above all ... doing it!
 
Considering when he started doing this, it is easy to see that the lyrics are done for fun, since if they were "serious" no one would ever give a damn about the music ... and the music business tried hard ... really hard to get this stuff not released or ignored ... totally ignored. Frank was probably one of the very first independent labels ... eventually he sold enough that the distribution conglomerates could not stay away ... but in general they did not support him very well either ... and he didn't care ... he knew that if they were going to support him he would not be able to be "free" as he wanted to be and do ...
 
And that's the difference between a Metalica (commercial music) or a Zappa ... now you decide if someone like that is worth listening to or not.  Regardless of the fact that it may be prog or bullpucky.
 
It all has nothing to do with the instruments ... it has to do with the person behind them ... and that is the secret that is missing here ... some folks would rather try and see/locate an idea for their minds, than accept what is out there in front of them ... it's music ... that simple.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 24 2009 at 15:21
Perhaps not considered a "classical" instrument, but the Lute played by Jan Akkerman on Tabernakel  and Alex Lifeson's use of the Bouzouki on S&A is a nice use of old world instruments.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 24 2009 at 15:38
Pan flute. Tongue
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 24 2009 at 15:47
^ i think (again) Ennio Morricone have a song featuring Pan flute - i dont know what its called but it is a nice song.
it can be a Fistfull of dollars
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 24 2009 at 22:03
Originally posted by aginor aginor wrote:

^ i think (again) Ennio Morricone have a song featuring Pan flute - i dont know what its called but it is a nice song.
it can be a Fistfull of dollars
Patrick Moraz and Syrinx did a whole album together. A panflute panoply!
 
For my money, I'll nominate the mandolin.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 25 2009 at 00:26
Triangle, you can't get that sound out of a keyboard.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 25 2009 at 00:33
Originally posted by splyu splyu wrote:

Originally posted by WalterDigsTunes WalterDigsTunes wrote:

Originally posted by splyu splyu wrote:

All of the above. Which classical instrument would not fit into prog? I can't imagine.

What I'd personally like to hear more, though, would be mallet instruments: xylophone, marimba, and vibraphone, which I only really remember hearing in Pierre Moerlen's Gong and in Mike Oldfield, where it's also Pierre Moerlen playing them.


Methinks someone needs some Zappa.

Quite possibly! Any albums in particular?


I'd suggest checking out maybe One Size Fits All or Roxy & Elsewhere.  Both of them have some great playing by Ruth Underwood.
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