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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 21 2009 at 01:30
Originally posted by mystic fred mystic fred wrote:

Officially according to release dates the first real Psyche song by the Beatles was "Rain" as the B side of "Paperback Writer" in June 1966, followed by the album "Revolver" in August, containing the  Psyche classic "Tomorrow Never Knows".


sounds right.. I voted Nowhere Man for fun and George's workmanlike solo

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 21 2009 at 05:59
Originally posted by mystic fred mystic fred wrote:

Nothing remotely Psyche about Norwegian Wood, except a bit of Sitar in it..?  Confused
 
Officially according to release dates the first real Psyche song by the Beatles was "Rain" as the B side of "Paperback Writer" in June 1966, followed by the album "Revolver" in August, containing the  Psyche classic "Tomorrow Never Knows".
 
 
 
Of greater importance is the recording, rather than release, dates. Work on TMK in the studio was initiated on 6 April 1966. The learnings from this work inspired "Rain" which they started recording 14 April.
 
Anyway, I'm in tune with those creditting "The Word" as the first "psychedelic" song although an entirely different definition of "psychedelic" points towards "Yellow Submarine" being the first. ( I never understood you guys' definition of psychedelic.) There's a clear line running from Yellow Submarine to the work of Syd Barrett. Thankfully The Beatles never continued in that direction.
 
(Edit: Compare the bass line in Yellow Submarine with that of Yardbirds' "Shapes Of Things" - perhaps the world's first psychedelic song - and get a feel of what I mean.)


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 21 2009 at 07:43
the true meaning of Psychedelic?  you could fill a whole thread with that one, it started as an Art form in painting and design but soon influenced music and fashion from 1965,   i remember many records in 1965 and 66 as being Psyche, Rolling Stones, Beatles, Small Faces, Hendrix, Moody Blues, Donovan, The Mindbenders, Pink Floyd, Traffic,  and hundreds of others,  it was sort of Mod music going slightly weird  due to exotic instruments and studio effects,  many were trying to emulate the effects of an LSD  trip on record but there were many bandwagon jumpers as there has always been . much of this music developed into Prog -  though it was all a mixture really,  the dividing lines are blurred  (possibly so is my memory, don't  take my summary as a historical document Embarrassed)...


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 23 2009 at 06:03

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 24 2009 at 14:12
Anyone listening to "Norwegain Wood" take 2 knows the Beatles were heading in the direction of psychedelic rock anyway. The only problem I have is that songs like "Eight Miles High", "Shapes of Things" and "See My Friends" are really rock songs with eastern influences. "Tomorrow Never Knows" though it has eastern influences was intentionally meant to be psychedelic sounding. It could be the first trippy rock song. Yes it influenced Syd Barrett.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 25 2010 at 06:13
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...with the fuzz bass.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 25 2010 at 14:30
I'd go with 'Tomorrow Never Knows' - it's far more suggestive of psychedelia than any other track on Rubber Soul for me.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 25 2010 at 16:03
Originally posted by earlyprog earlyprog wrote:

Think For Yourself
 
...with the fuzz bass.
 
There were two basses on this one. One with regular tone and the other through a fuzz-box right up front and center acting like a lead guitar. In my mind "Norwegian Wood" sounds sligtly psychedelic. They basically one -upped everyone in rock music with "Tomorrow Never Knows" and that includes Frank Zappa. Instead of the usual backdrop of standard rock instruments they created a backdrop of psychedelic sounds using a series of loops drones, and  electronic effects. I think they even took a segment of "Taxman" and put it backwards on "Tomorow Never Knows".


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 25 2010 at 16:33
Tomorrow Never Knows...one of my most favourite songs ever. Big smile
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