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Ivan_Melgar_M 
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 Posted: November 19 2009 at 17:36 |
FIFA is a mafia, France is business, Ireland not.
First was Argentina, now is France.
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CPicard
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Posted: November 19 2009 at 16:51 |
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To replay the match??? Please, no!
Last night, I had to bear the Algerian supporters AND the French supporters while I was trying to sleep! Not another evening of soccer!
Just chop off the hand of TH to give him a good lesson.
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akamaisondufromage
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Posted: November 19 2009 at 16:26 |
I don't think they will replay it. I do think that TH should be banned from the first three matches of the WC. This would punish both him and France : France might even decide its not worth taking a player who could not play the group stages. Serve him right in that case!
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Atkingani
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Posted: November 19 2009 at 16:07 |
 johnobvious wrote:
Should they replay the France-Ireland match? Discuss among yourselves.
This handball will live on forever in Ireland and if France were to win the whole thing, you can imagine the outcry. But if they replay it, they would be opening a Pandora's box for the future. Every seemingly wronged side will be screaming for a replay. It would not be pretty.
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They should play only the overtime... if a new game starts from scratch with 0-0 then France will be favored yet.
BTW, last Sunday in a game here Brazilian Championship, 1st Division, the referee consulted discreetly the 3rd linesman to check if a goal was legal or illegal. The 3rd linesman had the information via TV that the goal was illegal and so the referee deleted the goal and even the players seemed apparently satisfied. Is it a possibility for the future? The 3rd linesman with a TV monitor and being consulted for controversial actions?
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johnobvious
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Posted: November 19 2009 at 14:54 |
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Should they replay the France-Ireland match? Discuss among yourselves.
This handball will live on forever in Ireland and if France were to win the whole thing, you can imagine the outcry. But if they replay it, they would be opening a Pandora's box for the future. Every seemingly wronged side will be screaming for a replay. It would not be pretty.
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UMUR
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Posted: November 19 2009 at 08:48 |
See you there 
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Atkingani
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Posted: November 19 2009 at 07:39 |
A brief note OFF TOPIC:
Today, 19/11, exactly 40 years ago, a certain player known as Pelé scored his 1000th in the Maracană Stadium, Rio de Janeiro... amid the 70,000 people watching it in the audience was a little boy with his father. Well, that boy grew, his father left but the marvels of that particular day will never be forgotten - I was there!!!
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Posted: November 19 2009 at 04:14 |
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Henry's handball was not ambiguous, it was a clear deliberate use of the hand (twice in fact) to control a ball that was going out of play. (and he has subsequently admitted as much)That neither the ref or his linesman saw it beggars belief. From the limited highlights I have seen, Ireland created all the better chances and had at least two 'one on ones' with the keeper to make it 2 - 0 in normal time. A real shame for the Republic, but based on this evidence France will be lucky to get out of whatever qualifying group they are drawn in at the finals.
They have more video technology inside the stadiums than people these days, so why don't they use some of it to help the ref make contentious decisions in games where the stakes are so high ?
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Yup, that was completely ridiculous. We're not in the Middle Ages anymore, when is FIFA going to take its head out of its arse and enter the 21st century? Seeing as how it's becoming quite obvious the referees can't (or won't) see even something as obvious and blatant as this, why not make use of the technology that enables every viewer to decipher the situation in seconds? I'm not saying we need to use those cameras in every local low league match, but (as you pointed out) when the stakes are as high as they were yesterday, it should be top priority that the match is not decided by bad judging - and that means using every means necessary.
Edited by Jimbo - November 19 2009 at 15:00
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ExittheLemming
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Posted: November 19 2009 at 02:59 |
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Henry's handball was not ambiguous, it was a clear deliberate use of the hand (twice in fact) to control a ball that was going out of play. (and he has subsequently admitted as much)That neither the ref or his linesman saw it beggars belief. From the limited highlights I have seen, Ireland created all the better chances and had at least two 'one on ones' with the keeper to make it 2 - 0 in normal time. A real shame for the Republic, but based on this evidence France will be lucky to get out of whatever qualifying group they are drawn in at the finals.
They have more video technology inside the stadiums than people these days, so why don't they use some of it to help the ref make contentious decisions in games where the stakes are so high ?
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harmonium.ro
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Posted: November 18 2009 at 16:40 |
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This is sad.
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akamaisondufromage
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Posted: November 18 2009 at 16:17 |
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La main de Dieu... |
If that is true it is a disgrace. Nobody desserves to go out of the WC in that way. 
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harmonium.ro
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Posted: November 18 2009 at 16:14 |
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What a pitty...
[It was clear hand-ball]
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akamaisondufromage
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Posted: November 18 2009 at 16:14 |
France 1 Ireland 1
I hear the French Cheated (Listening on the radio) Handball they say!
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Edited by akamaisondufromage - November 18 2009 at 16:14
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Atkingani
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Posted: November 18 2009 at 16:13 |
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La main de Dieu...
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Posted: November 18 2009 at 16:09 |
This is NOT a match for the faint-hearted!  Russia is OUT, I am very upset because of this 
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Posted: November 18 2009 at 15:55 |
90mins is up !!!
Extra squeeky Bottom Time for the Irish and French alike !
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harmonium.ro
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Posted: November 18 2009 at 15:27 |
Ireland team is doing very well as we speak - they almost made it 2-0 two minutes ago! 
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Posted: November 18 2009 at 15:08 |
akamaisondufromage wrote:
ExittheLemming wrote:
akamaisondufromage wrote:
ExittheLemming wrote:
el dingo wrote:
As noboby else has, I´ll formally apologise for England´s pathetic showing against Brazil. Still. it was only a friendly |
No apology for their performance required (but for being English, well... )
It was a 2nd string they put out against a full strength Brazil (or as near as dammit)
It would be dangerous to read too much into the performance as all it indicates is that England probably lack the squad depth of their closest rivals.
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Mr Lemming are you really Australian? Far too reasonable. 
Dingo whats all this Palmade Mallorca Bollocks ? eh?  Mr Jelousy
COME ON IRELAND!!!
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No, I ain't Australian (but I live there) I'm Scottish and have just watched video (low)lights of my team's pathetic capitulation to the plankton savagery of Wales (whose FIFA ranking is probably lower than that of the Mbuti People of Zaire) by 3 - nil.  Our manager George Burley has just been sacked (but it's not his fault, we simply don't produce players with the requisite technical ability to compete on the world stage)
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How are you gonna survive the WC ? Surrounded by Aussies and no doubt quite a few English. I always thought Burley was a good manager (Did well at Ipswich). I don't think they should have sacked him - I think it was an emotional decision based on losing to the Taffs! |
Yes, as is the SFA's wont, a habitual knee-jerk reaction to either media or Tartan Army pressure. Considering they kept him on after our failure to qualify for South Africa, why dismiss him after just 2 meaningless friendly defeats ? (One of which, against Japan, was played with a second XI) We now can look forward to the unedifying spectacle of the repugnant striking striker Kris Boyd being reinstated, (swearing undying allegiance to the cause) and the two drunken idiots Ferguson and McGregor being unbanned for life...The bottom of the barrel for Scotland at this moment would represent the ceiling.
Edited by ExittheLemming - November 18 2009 at 15:09
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Posted: November 18 2009 at 14:50 |
ExittheLemming wrote:
akamaisondufromage wrote:
ExittheLemming wrote:
el dingo wrote:
As noboby else has, I´ll formally apologise for England´s pathetic showing against Brazil. Still. it was only a friendly |
No apology for their performance required (but for being English, well...)
It was a 2nd string they put out against a full strength Brazil (or as near as dammit)
It would be dangerous to read too much into the performance as all it indicates is that England probably lack the squad depth of their closest rivals.
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Mr Lemming are you really Australian? Far too reasonable.
Dingo whats all this Palmade Mallorca Bollocks ? eh? Mr Jelousy
COME ON IRELAND!!!
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No, I ain't Australian (but I live there) I'm Scottish and have just watched video (low)lights of my team's pathetic capitulation to the plankton savagery of Wales (whose FIFA ranking is probably lower than that of the Mbuti People of Zaire) by 3 - nil. Our manager George Burley has just been sacked (but it's not his fault, we simply don't produce players with the requisite technical ability to compete on the world stage)
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How are you gonna survive the WC ? Surrounded by Aussies and no doubt quite a few English. I always thought Burley was a good manager (Did well at Ipswich). I don't think they should have sacked him - I think it was an emotional decision based on losing to the Taffs!
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ExittheLemming
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Posted: November 18 2009 at 14:40 |
akamaisondufromage wrote:
ExittheLemming wrote:
el dingo wrote:
As noboby else has, I´ll formally apologise for England´s pathetic showing against Brazil. Still. it was only a friendly |
No apology for their performance required (but for being English, well...)
It was a 2nd string they put out against a full strength Brazil (or as near as dammit)
It would be dangerous to read too much into the performance as all it indicates is that England probably lack the squad depth of their closest rivals.
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Mr Lemming are you really Australian? Far too reasonable.
Dingo whats all this Palmade Mallorca Bollocks ? eh? Mr Jelousy
COME ON IRELAND!!!
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No, I ain't Australian (but I live there) I'm Scottish and have just watched video (low)lights of my team's pathetic capitulation to the plankton savagery of Wales (whose FIFA ranking is probably lower than that of the Mbuti People of Zaire) by 3 - nil. Our manager George Burley has just been sacked (but it's not his fault, we simply don't produce players with the requisite technical ability to compete on the world stage)
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