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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 11 2009 at 15:38
Originally posted by gottagetintogetout gottagetintogetout wrote:

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Easy for me: Gong.

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Sorry if I offended you, but I have a hard time understanding Gong's music.  To me, some of it seems like pointless experimentation or texture rather than good music.  Maybe you can help me appreciate what I'm missing while listening to them.

The first thing one should notice about Gong, whether we are talking about the Daevid Allen incarnation or the Pierre Moerlen incarnation, is the excellent musicianship. Even Allen himself is a good lead guitarist, as can be heard on several albums, though within the classic Gong line-up he usually only plays rhythm guitar or glissando guitar. Start there, appreciate the excellent musicianship, then it all falls into place by itself at one point.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 11 2009 at 15:39
Originally posted by gottagetintogetout gottagetintogetout wrote:

Originally posted by A Person A Person wrote:

Originally posted by gottagetintogetout gottagetintogetout wrote:

Easy for me: Gong.

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Sorry if I offended you, but I have a hard time understanding Gong's music.  To me, some of it seems like pointless experimentation or texture rather than good music.  Maybe you can help me appreciate what I'm missing while listening to them.

The first thing one should notice about Gong, whether we are talking about the Daevid Allen incarnation or the Pierre Moerlen incarnation, is the excellent musicianship. Even Allen himself is a good lead guitarist, as can be heard on several albums, though within the classic Gong line-up he usually only plays rhythm guitar or glissando guitar. Start there, appreciate the excellent musicianship, then it all falls into place by itself at one point.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 11 2009 at 15:40
Daevid Allen Gong, mostly.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 11 2009 at 15:48
There is some silly humour in the Allen incarnation of Gong, but it is never pointless..The whole story of  "Zero the hero" makes complete sense; it is the tale of a spiritual initiation, with sex and drugs being an important part of the initiation. But the holy and wise spirits have a lot of anarchic humour, perhaps BECAUSE they are holy and wise.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 12 2009 at 09:17
Pink Floyd, Genesis and other "granny-prog" from 70's.

Of course there's some "semi-prog" and prog-related bands that are great like Deep Purple or Queen etc.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 13 2009 at 06:18
I always thought of Magma as the main example, but then I heard KA and decided that I like them. ODDITY. I guess my next answer will cause a sh*tload of controversy, so I say Dream Theater.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 13 2009 at 06:32

Originally posted by Blowin Free Blowin Free wrote:

I always thought of Magma as the main example, but then I heard KA and decided that I like them. ODDITY. I guess my next answer will cause a sh*tload of controversy, so I say Dream Theater.

Exactly, I heard stories about terrible and scary Zeuhl genre (actually, everyone was happy, but it seemed to me like that), but then I heard K.A. and was very impressed. Recently, I was impressed again by their latest ;-)

Well, what do you hate about Dream Theater would be important question, so... ?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 13 2009 at 11:29
Originally posted by Blowin Free Blowin Free wrote:

I always thought of Magma as the main example, but then I heard KA and decided that I like them. ODDITY. I guess my next answer will cause a sh*tload of controversy, so I say Dream Theater.
  KA is quite good but it's just sad that it's an old music just recently recorded. I would have liked it if he could have written music that good NOW. Oh well.
 
Hey I'm with you on Dream Theater. They are honestly one of the stupidest, most riduclous and over the top bands I've ever heard in my life.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 13 2009 at 12:39
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Hey I'm with you on Dream Theater. They are honestly one of the stupidest, most riduclous and over the top bands I've ever heard in my life.

No wonder I like them...you make them sound GREAT!!!!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 13 2009 at 12:52
Originally posted by jeje jeje wrote:

Pink Floyd, Genesis and other "granny-prog" from 70's.

Of course there's some "semi-prog" and prog-related bands that are great like Deep Purple or Queen etc.




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 13 2009 at 12:53
Originally posted by Tuzvihar Tuzvihar wrote:

Originally posted by jeje jeje wrote:

Pink Floyd, Genesis and other "granny-prog" from 70's.

Of course there's some "semi-prog" and prog-related bands that are great like Deep Purple or Queen etc.




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 13 2009 at 12:57
Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:

There is some silly humour in the Allen incarnation of Gong, but it is never pointless..The whole story of  "Zero the hero" makes complete sense; it is the tale of a spiritual initiation, with sex and drugs being an important part of the initiation. But the holy and wise spirits have a lot of anarchic humour, perhaps BECAUSE they are holy and wise.

Yeah, isn't it a reworking of the story of Buddha? David Allen Gong is a wonderful example of a blend of psychedelic rock and jazz. David's vocals are amazing too, he has a great sound when he sings, not so much the sound of his voice, but the way he sings.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 13 2009 at 13:31
Any prog band that takes themselves too seriously tends to get hatred from me. Which is why I can't stand Dream Theater. That's probably a bit more of an accurate way to state that. LOL
 
I can understand the appeal, on an intellectual level, but not on anything other than that.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 13 2009 at 13:39
I had a good chuckle with the grannie prog thing.  I'd have to say if you have a grandma that likes prog, you've got a pretty cool grandma. LOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 13 2009 at 13:40
My grandma liked Lawrence Welk who was famous for "bubble prog".
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 13 2009 at 16:33
Thanks for your help, BaldFriede and A Person.  After listening to the "Radio Gnome Invisible" trilogy again, I now understand it better.  I know that there are many stranger bands out there, but I thought that you described what I feel exactly when you said it was "silly."  But I guess that that's what Gong fans find in there favorite bands: the humor and quirkiness (and the musical virtuosity of course.)  They still aren't one of my favorite bands, but I have to say that the trilogy has gone from 1-star to 3-stars after listening to it with in open mind.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 14 2009 at 20:40
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 15 2009 at 07:17

Definitely The Flower Kings, Yes and Frank Zappa: I really can't see what all the fuzz with them is about... Sometimes they have a good moment, but generally they just...suck IMOErmm

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 15 2009 at 08:04
Originally posted by Basíleia Basíleia wrote:

Definitely The Flower Kings, Yes and Frank Zappa: I really can't see what all the fuzz with them is about... Sometimes they have a good moment, but generally they just...suck IMOErmm


You may not like them, but not liking does not = suck.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 15 2009 at 08:05
Originally posted by catfood03 catfood03 wrote:

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