List manipulation?

^wtf? I've always thought Colombia was a US state (I don't know, why), and Columbia a country...sorry, guys  

Edited by Diaby - May 05 2009 at 17:36

Kotro wrote: Err, didn't know where else to put this. I know there is no account for taste, and you should rate albums however you like, but this still looks suspicious:   http://www.progarchives.com/Collaborators.asp?id=21152&listreviews=&showall=true#reviews   Talk about failure to find a middle ground...

Good thing that ratings have weight just 1, reviews are 5 times stronger. Mighty (flexing, flexing)

It looks suspicious, agreed.

If I were to take the music on its own I would give it a five (and for my enjoyment), but I could understand someone rating it lower because it's a) just not to their taste and b) it's rehashing music that's already been released.  Like many, I was familiar with the music from live performances, even if this is rather different, and it refers back to music released on much earlier albums.  It's not really innovative, but I love the execution and it does have good twists.  In some ways I could see Magma fanboys being harder on it.  I think it's a really lovely album, and has great groove.  A very accomplished, and well-nuanced production.  Some will complain it's too much more of the same old, same old.

In Nemec's case, I'm sure it's different.  He'd probably give every Magma album a one if he heard them.  Anyway, an unreliable rater -- one of those who would be prone to rate his favourite bands' albums all five and all ones that he isn't a fan of one.  It's interesting to see how he gave Selling England a one while the Genesis influneced band Marillion he gave all five ratings (though the Genesis influence is not strong in most of those I expect, especially the Hogarth era).  He can go against the grain if he likes by giving Hybris a one, Los Jaivas' album a one, and Trisector, and all those Pink Floyd albums a one, but I certainly wouldn't defer to his musical opinions. See his ratings:

ALAS Alas (rating only)
ANAMOR Imaginacje(rating only)
EYE 2 EYE After All...(rating only)
THE GOURISHANKAR 2nd Hands(rating only)
THE GOURISHANKAR Close Grip(rating only)
MARILLION Afraid of Sunlight (rating only)
MARILLION Brave(rating only)
MARILLION Brave Live 2002(rating only)
MARILLION Happiness Is The Road(rating only)
MARILLION Marbles(rating only)
MARILLION Marbles Live(rating only)
MARILLION Misplaced Childhood | review
MARILLION Recital Of The Script (rating only)
THE MARS VOLTA Octahedron(rating only)
OZRIC TENTACLES Arborescence(rating only)
OZRIC TENTACLES Curious Corn(rating only)
OZRIC TENTACLES Jurassic Shift (rating only)
OZRIC TENTACLES Spirals In Hyperspace(rating only)
JEAN-LUC PONTY The Atacama Experience(rating only)
RENAISSANCE Unplugged - Live at The Academy of Music, Philadelphia USA | review
SYLVAN Force Of Gravity(rating only)
TANGERINE DREAM Flame(rating only)
YES Close To The Edge(rating only)
YES Going for the One(rating only)
ANGLAGARD Hybris(rating only)
CAMEL Coming Of Age (DVD)(rating only)
COLLAGE Moonshine(rating only)
GENESIS Selling England By The Pound(rating only)
GENTLE GIANT Giant On The Box(rating only)
IQ Stage(rating only)
LOS JAIVAS Alturas de Macchu Picchu(rating only)
KAMELOT One Cold Winter's Night(rating only)
MAGMA Ëmëhntëhtt-Rê(rating only)
PINK FLOYD Animals(rating only)
PINK FLOYD Dark Side Of The Moon(rating only)
PINK FLOYD Live At Pompeii(rating only)
PINK FLOYD Wish You Were Here(rating only)
PORCUPINE TREE Arriving Somewhere...(rating only)
VAN DER GRAAF GENERATOR Trisector(rating only)

Well-spotted, but he actually has two reviews and both are plagiarised.  His Misplaced Childhood review is plagiarised from a review by King By-Tor (look in body of the KBT review) as well as the Renaissance review he plagiarised from Joolz.

Logan wrote: Well-spotted, but he actually has two reviews and both are plagiarised.  His Misplaced Childhood review is plagiarised from a review by King By-Tor (look in body of the KBT review) as well as the Renaissance review he plagiarised from Joolz.

Ooh, I'm flattered

Loads of ratings appeared from one day to the next, instantly causing Magma to turn from 5.0 to 4.3 in a matter of one day (or two) and pushing Riverside/TRansatlantic up. Many many many 1-star ratings to Magma.

It is fishy.


Edited by Zitro - November 16 2009 at 05:55

Very, and the later 1 stars are all from new members created 1 after another (look their ID #)

I've also block the IP 212.14.2.178


I need to find a way to limit that...

Solutions :
- 1 rating by IP
-  Rating weights depends on nb. of ratings / joined date  ?

Thanks for sharing ideas

MAX


Edited by M@X - November 16 2009 at 10:15

Blocking multiple ratings fromt he same IP would help M@x. Some people vary their IP address to get round this though.

Easy Livin wrote: Blocking multiple ratings fromt he same IP would help M@x. Some people vary their IP address to get round this though. Could we make it that you cannot post ratings on the day you join. You have to wait say 3 days before posting ratings. Same with forum posts perhaps? It would cut the spamming a lot.

I actually suggested that to someone once, except instead of posting it was thread making.

Another list manipulator (i think) as it one-stars both #1 and #2 2009 spots.
http://www.progarchives.com/Collaborators.asp?id=15601