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scaife 
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 Topic: Ever feel sorry for those who don't "get" prog?
Posted: November 11 2009 at 19:01 |
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Pretty much what the title indicates. Do you ever feel sorry for anyone who just doesn't hear what we hear in prog music and dismisses it completely. I don't mean sorry as in "you're such a loser"...I mean sorry as in "wow...it's really a shame that you don't hear what I hear in this music...there's soooo much you're missing out on....you're such a loser."
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A Person
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Posted: November 11 2009 at 19:07 |
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You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink.
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Isa
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Posted: November 11 2009 at 19:09 |
I feel sorry for anyone who won't ever get the kind of euphoria out of sophisticated music that I do overall. So, yes.  Anyone from any genre of music could say that, though we proggers all know just "what" it is about prog that unites us, even if we can't quite define it or agree on anything else.  Sometimes I feel sorry for myself that I don't understand the euphoria others do out of hearing the complexities of Bach or baroque music overall. Maybe someday I will!
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NotAProghead
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Posted: November 11 2009 at 19:15 |
I feel sorry when people don't see how good are the things I like, not necessarily prog, whatever. From other hand, I agree with Isa, I can't get into others' interests - sometimes I feel sorry about it, sometimes don't care much.
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Who are you and who am I to say we know the reason why... (D. Gilmour)
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Evan
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Posted: November 11 2009 at 19:16 |
I think they should feel sorry for us. It would be nice to live in peaceful ignorance of accepting the record industries muzak. Being a prog lover is difficult -from finding more and more music to penetrating difficult albums. Not to say it doesn't pay off, but still...
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Camel_APPeal
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Posted: November 11 2009 at 19:29 |
Why shoud I be sorry?? They're fine the way they are and most likely they won't bother paying attention to the music the way we do.
Now, when they bash prog without knowing what they're talking about I could feel sorry until I remember it's their problem and not mine.
In the end, they like what they know and they know what they like.
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J-Man
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Posted: November 11 2009 at 19:41 |
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I feel bad for those who like Yes, Genesis, and King Crimson, but never further explore the genre. They never find any modern gems, or great obscure undiscovered bands. They just rely on the classics and never bother finding something new. I feel bad for them. I don't feel bad for people who just don't like prog, only if they've had some exposure to it. If they've never heard any prog, I do feel bad for them. If they have and it just never "clicked" with them, then it's just not their taste.
-Jeff
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Darklord55
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Posted: November 11 2009 at 20:24 |
 J-Man wrote:
I feel bad for those who like Yes, Genesis, and King Crimson, but never further explore the genre. They never find any modern gems, or great obscure undiscovered bands. They just rely on the classics and never bother finding something new. I feel bad for them. I don't feel bad for people who just don't like prog, only if they've had some exposure to it. If they've never heard any prog, I do feel bad for them. If they have and it just never "clicked" with them, then it's just not their taste.
-Jeff
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I agree because I was almost one of those people. However, on a whim, I typed prog in a google search and Prog Archives found me. And you probably can figure out the rest of the story. So I won't bore you. Hopefully there are a few more out there who are a google search away from prog bliss.
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Hexenmeister
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Posted: November 11 2009 at 20:35 |
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Wow, the self-importance quotient is very high in this thread.
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J-Man
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Posted: November 11 2009 at 20:46 |
Darklord55 wrote:
J-Man wrote:
I feel bad for those who like Yes, Genesis, and King Crimson, but never further explore the genre. They never find any modern gems, or great obscure undiscovered bands. They just rely on the classics and never bother finding something new. I feel bad for them. I don't feel bad for people who just don't like prog, only if they've had some exposure to it. If they've never heard any prog, I do feel bad for them. If they have and it just never "clicked" with them, then it's just not their taste.
-Jeff
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I agree because I was almost one of those people. However, on a whim, I typed prog in a google search and Prog Archives found me. And you probably can figure out the rest of the story. So I won't bore you. Hopefully there are a few more out there who are a google search away from prog bliss. |
I would pretty much be all Genesis and Neal Morse if it wasn't for PA. Believe it or not, I didn't know anything at all about prog metal just a brief 2 years ago, and here I am on the prog metal team
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Posted: November 11 2009 at 21:01 |
Yes - I do feel sorry for those who "don't get" prog. But I don't angst over this. As A Person says: "You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink". There will always, be differences in music taste, and if you happen upon someone, who has similar tastes to you - fantastic. Once again - it is an individual preference and fortunately for me, I have found a lot of individuals who share my taste in music - the PA forum members. 
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TheCaptain
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Posted: November 11 2009 at 21:01 |
Hexenmeister wrote:
Wow, the self-importance quotient is very high in this thread.
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Can you truly love prog if it doesn't make you feel like an elitist ass (for the record I love feeling like an elitist ass)? Anyway to answer the question at hand, I don't feel sorry for them. I feel sorry for me because I have almost no one to talk to in the physical world about prog. I imagine everyone else who really likes music of some sort gets a similar enjoyment from their music.
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Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal.
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TheCaptain
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Posted: November 11 2009 at 21:04 |
J-Man wrote:
Darklord55 wrote:
J-Man wrote:
I feel bad for those who like Yes, Genesis, and King Crimson, but never further explore the genre. They never find any modern gems, or great obscure undiscovered bands. They just rely on the classics and never bother finding something new. I feel bad for them. I don't feel bad for people who just don't like prog, only if they've had some exposure to it. If they've never heard any prog, I do feel bad for them. If they have and it just never "clicked" with them, then it's just not their taste.
-Jeff
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I agree because I was almost one of those people. However, on a whim, I typed prog in a google search and Prog Archives found me. And you probably can figure out the rest of the story. So I won't bore you. Hopefully there are a few more out there who are a google search away from prog bliss. |
I would pretty much be all Genesis and Neal Morse if it wasn't for PA. Believe it or not, I didn't know anything at all about prog metal just a brief 2 years ago, and here I am on the prog metal team
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How did you stumble across Neal Morse without PA?
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Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal.
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J-Man
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Posted: November 11 2009 at 21:11 |
TheCaptain wrote:
J-Man wrote:
Darklord55 wrote:
J-Man wrote:
I feel bad for those who like Yes, Genesis, and King Crimson, but never further explore the genre. They never find any modern gems, or great obscure undiscovered bands. They just rely on the classics and never bother finding something new. I feel bad for them. I don't feel bad for people who just don't like prog, only if they've had some exposure to it. If they've never heard any prog, I do feel bad for them. If they have and it just never "clicked" with them, then it's just not their taste.
-Jeff
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I agree because I was almost one of those people. However, on a whim, I typed prog in a google search and Prog Archives found me. And you probably can figure out the rest of the story. So I won't bore you. Hopefully there are a few more out there who are a google search away from prog bliss. |
I would pretty much be all Genesis and Neal Morse if it wasn't for PA. Believe it or not, I didn't know anything at all about prog metal just a brief 2 years ago, and here I am on the prog metal team
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How did you stumble across Neal Morse without PA?
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To be honest, I don't know. My dad heard of him from one of his friends, and he was a huge fan (still is probably the biggest Neal Morse fanboy you'll ever meet ), but I wasn't particularly interested at my 10 years of age. When I got into Peter Gabriel-era Genesis (I mean like addicted. There was a point where I would listen to Selling England 7 times a day if I was bored enough), I decided to give Neal Morse a shot again, and I was blown away. -Jeff
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horsewithteeth11
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Posted: November 11 2009 at 21:11 |
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I see the OP does not lack self-confidence. Or arrogance.
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horsewithteeth11
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Posted: November 11 2009 at 21:12 |
A Person wrote:
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Thank you, Matt. 
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UndercoverBoy
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Posted: November 11 2009 at 21:33 |
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Sometimes I feel sorry for people who don't appreciate Prog, but at the same time I'm glad that I seem to be the only one that truly appreciates Prog in my area, so I can be a musical elitist. I agree with Jeff, what really disappoints me is that no one seems to explore Prog beyond the big groups, or sometimes they will listen to the big groups without even realizing it. Every day, there are plenty of kids at my school wearing Pink Floyd and Rush shirts (great bands for sure), but I'm the only one who wears any other Prog t-shirts. I really can't blame them, because I used to be that way. I hope that some day they will discover the wonderful world of Prog just like I did.
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Petrovsk Mizinski
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Posted: November 11 2009 at 21:38 |
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These kind of topics are really making me hate this site.
You know who I feel sorry for?
People who are pretentious f**king c**ts that think they are above anyone else because they've "heard prog" and others haven't.
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Queen By-Tor
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Posted: November 11 2009 at 21:52 |
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I echo Harry.
You are all pretentious elitest t**ts if you think you're better than someone for the music you listen to.
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Henry Plainview
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Posted: November 11 2009 at 22:41 |
Petrovsk Mizinski wrote:
These kind of topics are really making me hate this site.
You know who I feel sorry for?
People who are pretentious f**king c**ts that think they are above anyone else because they've "heard prog" and others haven't.
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There's a difference between what the OP is asking and what you are saying, although I knew you would come and bitch anyway. <3
I do wish more people had the patience to expand their horizons and enjoy avant-garde music, but pity isn't really the right word. I would reserve pity for people who choose not to read. And pop fans feel sorry for me because I can't enjoy "fun" music, so it all evens out.
I don't think I'm better than other people, I think I just have better taste. ;-)
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