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Poll Question: To make new system of sorting your reviews or not ?
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    Posted: November 06 2009 at 10:12

The problem is that I found myself in need for new way of sorting your reviews. By my opinion, it would be easy to implement. And even year of releases can be sometimes misleading, we all can probably agree on that in general, it would be quite useful, especially for those who have over 100 reviews, as it becomes more and more confusing. For example 

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1977
Animals

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Wish You Were Here

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The Dark Side of the Moon


and so on, all your reviews.






Edited by MartyMcFly89 - November 06 2009 at 10:42
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what's the point? if I wanna find a review, I'll just use the search box. Leave it be.
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Originally posted by paganinio paganinio wrote:

what's the point? if I wanna find a review, I'll just use the search box. Leave it be.

And why to do any changes at all, we should stick our head to the ground and pretend that we're ostriches. Common, this way of thinking can change anything.


So do you know why to change it ? Because

1)There is a free space on this line

2)I'm not programmer, but I really think that it would be easy to do.

3)In previous thread about it, some people already showed their support for this idea

4)There are already three ways how to sort things, so why not to have another one, when it can bequite useful

5)Counter-question - Why to have alphabetical sorting, when I can use search box.


No way, this idea is good by my opinion.
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for me it looks as "job because of job". May be it is not a big job, but anyway, someone should do it. So, what for? Yes, some reviewers had big list of reviews, but normaly it never thousands. So, I think everyone can find whatever he wants without a big problem.
 
Sometimes there is no need just to over-organize things.Wink
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While it's not a big deal to me as I'm not a reviewer, and don't check those pages much, and don't even read reviews much, I think it would be a nice addition if it's easy to implement and if M@X likes the idea.  Sorting reviews by country would be another addition.  I don't think it is an addition that most users/ visitors would find very helpful or useful, but I still think it's a good idea. .

I certainly wouldn't expect something like this here (this site being very different), but something cool at progfreak is a reviewer Trust Level rating (if it were practically implementable here, then I could even affect how one's ratings are weighted, but I see problems with using that system here). And a "was this review helpful to you" has been discussed, but I rather like that idea even though I see problems with it.


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Originally posted by snobb snobb wrote:

for me it looks as "job because of job". May be it is not a big job, but anyway, someone should do it. So, what for? Yes, some reviewers had big list of reviews, but normaly it never thousands. So, I think everyone can find whatever he wants without a big problem.
 
Sometimes there is no need just to over-organize things.Wink


Agreed. If someone has nothing to do and feels like doing this, I guess my feeling is "why not?" I am completely neutral about this idea. I mainly use the alphabetic sorting, and occasionally use "by rating." I never use chronological sorting although I can see why someone would use it.
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Yeah, sorting by country would be great too.


And it's certainly not  if this, then this.

'cause you can basically apply this on every improvement. Common, this won't hurt
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I remember not that long ago(last year?) if you clicked on the "country" all the bands would pop up in alphabetical order from that nation.I used to use that a lot. I do like the idea of year of release but right now i go to the top of the front page and click on "Top albums of 2009" then from there i can pick out the year i want,and make it more specific with genre etc.
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Points: 13915 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 06 2009 at 12:12
Actually that would be cool to have the ability to have my specific reviews sorted by year.So i vote yes.
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I think it's cool. I'd also like a pie chart of rankings to see what percent are 5 stars, 4 stars, etc.
 
I like the stats on ratings.
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Originally posted by sinkadotentree sinkadotentree wrote:

I remember not that long ago(last year?) if you clicked on the "country" all the bands would pop up in alphabetical order from that nation.I used to use that a lot. I do like the idea of year of release but right now i go to the top of the front page and click on "Top albums of 2009" then from there i can pick out the year i want,and make it more specific with genre etc.
I used to use the "country" feature too, but haven't in quite a while.  I didn't even notice it was gone.  That's too bad since I found it a very interesting feature.  One of my interests is in music from different countries, and that feature helped me connect traditional with prog.  I'd like to see it back.
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This post mostly relates to the "and now for something completely different" option.

Originally posted by sinkadotentree sinkadotentree wrote:

I remember not that long ago(last year?) if you clicked on the "country" all the bands would pop up in alphabetical order from that nation.I used to use that a lot. I do like the idea of year of release but right now i go to the top of the front page and click on "Top albums of 2009" then from there i can pick out the year i want,and make it more specific with genre etc.


I beleive that M&X has said that he would reinstate that.   That's something I really miss.  Another is an easy link to check all releases by year (I've done it before, but I forget the link, and I wish there was hyperlink to that on the front page).  I also miss being able to look at the top 5000 albums (I understand server space).  I wish it was easy to search for all albums by category, year or country (or all of the above), regardless of whether they've been highly rated or have no ratings at all.  I'd also to be able to search the bottom rated albums. etc. etc.

 I really think that the search functions need tweaking where we can fill out album parameters such as "album genres" and then can easily search these tags by filling out various fields while keeping the band under a master category.Could search by order of preference if you're looking for a, say, Krautrock, Avant Prog, Neo Prog album. I'd also like sub-categories under a master category (for instance, Prog Folk -> Acid Folk, Symphonic Folk etc.).

There are a lot of changes that would really improve the site.
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Wouldn`t the chronological option give you the years ?
I say we change everything just to make everything even more confusing.
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The chronological option merely refers to when the review was submitted.
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Country feature is good, even it's not so good for big ones like UK & USA, because you simply get too much results.

Anyway, there would be also good to have a way to introduce unreviewed albums in more user friendly way than just list of these. 

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Having this option would be fantastic - Great suggestion Marty, I'm all for it


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I posted a topic like this a little while back, and I think sorting reviews by year would be a VERY helpful addition. I suggested country as well, but year I think would be of the most use at least to me.

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Personally I don't see much use of sorting peoples reviews - less than 0.3% of reviewers have more than 200 reviews and less than 0.02% have more than 1000. Searching a page of reviews isn't that arduous using the browser's "find" function. But I will mention this to M@X and whether he adds it or not is his decision alone and not by "popular vote".
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One correction to my previous thoughts, this is not helpful for just 200+ reviews, but also for those with let's say 50. Or even 20 pieces. And that makes more nice number. 

It simply helps to do nice statistics.

Indeed Dean, I'm aware of that. But this general voice (so far, odds seems nice to me) can HELP him to decide whether it is helpful, or not. I'm not unrealistic, I know that decision is his. But when he managed to technically get this site where it is now, with all these new features and improvements, I trust his opinion.

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Originally posted by MartyMcFly89 MartyMcFly89 wrote:

One correction to my previous thoughts, this is not helpful for just 200+ reviews, but also for those with let's say 50. Or even 20 pieces. And that makes more nice number. 

It simply helps to do nice statistics.

It is easy enough to copy your reviews list into Excel (or Open Office Calc) and keep your own records (it's probably not a bad idea to keep copies of all your reviews anyway) - you can even copy info from each album page into columns in your spreadsheet. That way you can organise, sort, catalogue, file, index, archive, rationalise, format, justify, ratify and stamp (and spell-check) your reviews however you like.
 
The only reason I can see for looking at your own reviews list is to decide what to review next - I don't see how organising them by year of release (or whether the guitarist is called Derek) helps that process. Personally I prefer quality over quantity and we don't rate reviews so cannot do meaningful stats on them.
Originally posted by MartyMcFly89 MartyMcFly89 wrote:

Indeed Dean, I'm aware of that. But this general voice (so far, odds seems nice to me) can HELP him to decide whether it is helpful, or not. I'm not unrealistic, I know that decision is his. But when he managed to technically get this site where it is now, with all these new features and improvements, I trust his opinion.
This is not the general voice - it is a few people (in reality 18 out of 25741) who care enough to even bother to vote. 57% of those who did vote could be extrapolated to meaning anything you want - any value from 0.04% to 99.93% is perfectly possible (ie you can piddle about with statistics to your hearts content, but they don't prove anything).
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