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    Posted: August 09 2009 at 10:35
I’m finally recording my music. 46 years old I should have done it ages ago – only it wouldn’t have been the same music.
    Ashflame is a kind of opera. When I started recording some months ago, my intention was to keep it simple: guitars, piano, organ, bass, drums and occasional brass and woodwinds. But the second time I came to Petros’ home studio in the old town of Rhodes, he had had a little fun with the first part we recorded. The MIDI-files (originally meant for organ) were altered to French horns, bassoon, flute, strings, trombones, oboe etc. It sounded great, and suddenly I realised that what I was making was in fact orchestral music. Pretentious? Maybe, certainly ambitious. But you guys love pretentious music anyway.
    So we continued in the same way. The first song, The End, serves as a kind of overture, presenting some of the main themes and motifs. At the same time the listeners are introduced to the main character, Ashflame, in the moment of his death. Here you can listen to the result so far:
    
http://www.musicwebtown.com/jellyfishinice/275259


Sorry, no downloads yet. We will add drums towards the end and use a real bass instead of the MIDI one. All the vocals will be rerecorded later. I’ll upload the second song in a few days. Hope you like it!

Note: I am not responsible for the ads on that site.
 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 11 2009 at 04:31
2nd song added: The Start.

Here our protagonist is born. Petros sings this one.

I’ve tagged my music "classical" because I believe it to be less misleading than "rock". I’d love to have some comments from you.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 11 2009 at 07:26
I’ve added the 3rd as well, featuring me on … chopsticks. I sing it myself here, but the first part will be sung by a girl (Matina has a very beautiful and unusual voice), the second by Petros.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 12 2009 at 07:40
4th song: Born to Disgrace

I might add a little bouzouki to this one since there are a few bars influenced by the Greek zeibekiko (in 5/4).
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 20 2009 at 13:08
The 5th song is added. It’s a song I made together with my brother some 30+ years ago, then with Norwegian lyrics. We recorded the "angry" bouzouki solo today. Again, remember that this is not the final version. I will not sing in the fairy choir at all, and we have to do a lot with the balance. And the piano part towards the end will be slower.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 22 2009 at 07:36
I just listened to "The End"... well done! I'll grab the rest.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 22 2009 at 09:49
^ Thanks a lot!

One more thing: We’ll probably redo much of the flute work with a real flute.

We have started recording the 6th song, but I’m going away for a week so it will take some time before I upload it.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 23 2009 at 20:51
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 24 2009 at 04:37
^ Isn’t it? It works fine for me. Maybe you could try another browser (I use Firefox).
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 24 2009 at 08:56
Nope, not working in Google Chrome, Opera, Firefox or IE...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 24 2009 at 13:21
I’m sorry, Cobb, I don’t know how to help you. Maybe you lack some software? On the other hand, they are MP3 files and should be easily read by any computer. Here’s the link to the site I have used:

http://www.musicwebtown.com/community/index.php

Hope this can help you. Have a nice day! (It’s already night here in Greece ...)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 25 2009 at 03:58
The link works for me. Listening to the first bit just now.

Brilliant, dude. Brilliant.

I love your style.

I myself often have the same approach. I don't compose prog rock... I compose music with influences from rock that just happens to sound like prog rock. hah! Yours certainly sounds classical even. With clear influences. Cool.

EDIT: Listened all 5 tracks.
Sir, consider me as a fan!


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 25 2009 at 04:29
Thank you very much, Joosep! Warming words to take with me on vacation (I’m going away for a week). I’d love to hear your music, so please post a link if you have recorded anything.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 08 2009 at 09:27
Sorry for this shameless advertising, but I gave the link to this thread to some friends today, so I bump it in order to make it easier for them to find it.

After a two weeks break, I’m going to the studio again tomorrow. Hopefully there will be results to post here in a couple of weeks.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 08 2009 at 12:29
Finally the 6th song, Dreaming of Ruth, is uploaded. Due to vacations, illness (nothing serious, but a sore throat goes bad with singing) and a failed experiment (I had to rewrite the end), this has taken longer than expected. If you listen carefully, you will hear a noise when I sing, "but cold as ice", but it’s in the vocal channel, and we’ll do it over again anyway. So, here it is, with "crazy diamond"-effects in the first interlude and "swordfish trombones" towards the end.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 13 2009 at 12:57
Uploaded the 7th today, A Vision of a Mission. It’s the shortest one, and I decided to keep it simple – only my voice, classical guitar, fretless bass and a little organ. It’s intended to give the listener a nice break between the rather cacophonous end of Dreaming of Ruth and the next song (which is a monster).

Now there are a few videos with my producer (Petros) at Youtube. Here’s my favourite:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYofoGE-K04

Petros is the one to the left, playing the guitar and singing. The girl, Matina, will sing the female parts in Ashflame. I will probably use the two other musicians as well.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 05 2009 at 14:15
New version of A Vision of a Mission (#2, with flutes and a different organ). I think the end of the song is much better now. Matina has been to the studio and it sounds very nice, but we have to mix the music, so it’s too early to upload anything. I’m looking forward to replace "Night w bouzouki" with "Night w Matina", though LOL.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 12 2009 at 15:23
New version of The Start. My friend Thanasis plays the saxophone (I needed a horn after "Blow the happy horn"), and Matina sings backing vocals ("Hear the boys sing …). We have recorded the first part of the next song, but it’s a long one, so it will take a few weeks (we only record once a week). Tricky rythm and melody, a real challenge to all of us. Thanks, cheers, skål and yamas to all who are still interested!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 17 2009 at 15:21
Forgive me for shamelessly bumping my own thread. We are not asleep here, as you can hear if you listen to the playlist. In the 1st and 4th song we have replaced the "electric" guitar (which really was a classical run through a filter) with a real one. You can also hear Mattina’s voice, but remember that this is not the final take.

The 8th track ("The Writer") is the first part of a long song. Starting with some twelve tone music (permuted with my own system), it continues with a very special and odd rythm, alternating between e minor and e locrian. Kostas, who came to studio today with a Rush T-shirt, will put on a solo.

So, no more recording this year. Have a nice Christmas or Solstice or whatever you celebrate!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 10 2010 at 11:03
I’ve opened a new thread on Ashflame in the Unsigned Bands-section:

http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=66430

Just in case you didn’t notice it …

Anyway, that means this is my last post here. Feel free to post comments in the new thread.


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