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Toaster Mantis
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Joined: April 12 2008
Location: Denmark
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Points: 5898
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Posted: October 28 2009 at 14:26 |
Enough with all this complaining about lack of mainstream acceptance, or "progsecution complex" as I call it. This is a world where Pink Floyd's Dark Side of the Moon stayed #1 on the charts longer than any other album ever released, Primus and Tool played Lollapalooza and Pitchfork Media gave Godspeed You Black Emperor's first couple of albums 9/10 reviews. Certain people here are acting like progressive rock is about as popular as power electronics... bonus points for anyone here who actually knows what power electronics is without looking it up on Wikipedia? That's before we get into how that genre's fans are mostly satisfied with it being a niche. Then again, I can get along fine with people who don't like the same music as I do. As time goes on, I spend less and less time talking about music be it in real life or on the net. Hell, I spend less time listening to music because, guess what? Music feels more rewarding when you listen to it in the more life experience you can relate the music to because nothing can be appreciated outside a context, that's pretty much a basic fact of artistic interpretation.
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"The past is not some static being, it is not a previous present, nor a present that has passed away; the past has its own dynamic being which is constantly renewed and renewing." - Claire Colebrook
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Henry Plainview
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Joined: May 26 2008
Location: Declined
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Points: 16715
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Posted: October 28 2009 at 14:52 |
kingfriso wrote:
After this intimate touching story of mister XunknownX this is not a appropiate reacting of you mister plainview. Try to get your kick elsewhere with 'being right'. |
I wouldn't call it touching so much as self-pitying, and my point was that if you think you are going to be emo and lame, then you will be emo and lame, and being resigned to being emo and lame because you're too lazy to do anything besides listen to prog is the wrong way to look at life. If that makes me judgemental, then so be it.
Toaster Mantis wrote:
Certain people here are acting like progressive rock is about as popular as power electronics... bonus points for anyone here who actually knows what power electronics is without looking it up on Wikipedia? That's before we get into how that genre's fans are mostly satisfied with it being a niche.
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While you have a point about the isolation of hardcore noise fans, that sounds to me like a genre invented by Wikipedia. They have a habit of doing that, look at the eight billion subgenres for metal.
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if you own a sodastream i hate you
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Toaster Mantis
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Joined: April 12 2008
Location: Denmark
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Points: 5898
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Posted: October 28 2009 at 15:08 |
I can unfortunately say that uptight nerdiness about metal sub-sub-subgenres it not an invention of Wikipedia's. That said it's pretty funny when people invest time and energy into making ridiculously narrow definitions of "depressive black metal" or "epic doom metal"...
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"The past is not some static being, it is not a previous present, nor a present that has passed away; the past has its own dynamic being which is constantly renewed and renewing." - Claire Colebrook
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jampa17
Prog Reviewer
Joined: July 04 2009
Location: Guatemala
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Points: 6802
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Posted: October 28 2009 at 15:14 |
jajajajaa... depressive black metal...??? there's something more depressive than black metal itself...??? crap... that I didn't knew...!!!!
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Change the program inside... Stay in silence is a crime.
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angelmk
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Joined: November 22 2006
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Posted: October 28 2009 at 15:31 |
hehe .. in fact, depressive black metal is quite good subgenre of black metal .. there are many great bands that play it .. but i'am against inventing sub sub sub genres of metal..black metal doesn't need 1000 diferent sub categories although all that bands have differences in sound, cannot make a category for every band that deviate from the normal scheme ex. Symphonic black, Folk viking, Raw black.. and what was most funny to me is UNBLACK METAL
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jampa17
Prog Reviewer
Joined: July 04 2009
Location: Guatemala
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Points: 6802
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Posted: October 29 2009 at 10:15 |
unblack metal...??? which color is it...???
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Change the program inside... Stay in silence is a crime.
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The T
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Posted: October 29 2009 at 12:58 |
Christian black metal..
Yes I know... the ultimate in contradictions...
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Toaster Mantis
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Posted: October 29 2009 at 16:36 |
The T wrote:
Christian black metal..
Yes I know... the ultimate in contradictions...
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Maybe it could work if it was Gnostic black metal, but then again I'm not sure if Gnosticism really counts as Christianity. Anyway, back on topic: What I meant to say is that I'm getting really tired about progressive rock fans constantly casting themselves as suffering saints over the genre's lack of popularity, which in my experience is mostly imagined. I also sometimes get the impression that certain people here seldom talk about other things than music with other people.
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"The past is not some static being, it is not a previous present, nor a present that has passed away; the past has its own dynamic being which is constantly renewed and renewing." - Claire Colebrook
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Textbook
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Joined: October 08 2009
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Points: 3281
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Posted: October 29 2009 at 17:11 |
Stop mocking genres that never really took off or arguably existed!
*goes off to form Shoegazing Archives*
Seriously though, I would like there to be some sort of Alternative/Experimental Rap/Hip-Hop archives.
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The Block
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Joined: September 01 2009
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Posted: October 29 2009 at 17:13 |
Textbook wrote:
Seriously though, I would like there to be some sort of Alternative/Experimental Rap/Hip-Hop archives. |
What is there to like about that.
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Hurty flurty schnipp schnipp!
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Textbook
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Joined: October 08 2009
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Posted: October 29 2009 at 23:14 |
Hey everybody, Block dislikes rap music. This means he has superior taste and is on the cutting edge of life itself. Does that get it out of your system?
We don't care man. I can't stand Magma but you don't find me running around Magma threads telling people that.
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The Block
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Joined: September 01 2009
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Posted: November 01 2009 at 19:00 |
But this is a thread about life and prog...
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Hurty flurty schnipp schnipp!
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jampa17
Prog Reviewer
Joined: July 04 2009
Location: Guatemala
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Points: 6802
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Posted: November 02 2009 at 11:47 |
Yeah... who the hell is wondering about rap and hip hop...???!!!! we enjoy prog and that's what this is about... and prog is not matchable with rap... so.. sorry dude... go somewhere else...
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Change the program inside... Stay in silence is a crime.
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The Block
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Posted: November 02 2009 at 11:50 |
jampa17 wrote:
Yeah... who the hell is wondering about rap and hip hop...???!!!! we enjoy prog and that's what this is about... and prog is not matchable with rap... so.. sorry dude... go somewhere else... |
Seconded
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Hurty flurty schnipp schnipp!
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Henry Plainview
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Joined: May 26 2008
Location: Declined
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Points: 16715
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Posted: November 02 2009 at 13:17 |
This is why people don't like prog fans. :/
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if you own a sodastream i hate you
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jampa17
Prog Reviewer
Joined: July 04 2009
Location: Guatemala
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Points: 6802
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Posted: November 02 2009 at 16:39 |
Henry Plainview wrote:
This is why people don't like prog fans. :/ |
oh... that's why I don't have friends right...???
Sorry for the sarcasm... can't help it...
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Change the program inside... Stay in silence is a crime.
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angelmk
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Joined: November 22 2006
Location: Netherlands
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Posted: November 02 2009 at 17:16 |
Textbook wrote:
Hey everybody, Block dislikes rap music. This means he has superior taste and is on the cutting edge of life itself. Does that get it out of your system?
We don't care man. I can't stand Magma but you don't find me running around Magma threads telling people that. |
Not only Block dislikes rap, but the majority of PA members.. and You are just running around PA and praising Rap..on many different threads you glorify rap..I don't get it..are you a prog lover or rap fan ?? and remember this is PROG archives..for Rap archives go somewhere else..
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Henry Plainview
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Joined: May 26 2008
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Posted: November 02 2009 at 19:20 |
angelmk wrote:
Textbook wrote:
Hey everybody, Block dislikes rap music. This means he has superior taste and is on the cutting edge of life itself. Does that get it out of your system?
We don't care man. I can't stand Magma but you don't find me running around Magma threads telling people that. |
Not only Block dislikes rap, but the majority of PA members.. and You are just running around PA and praising Rap..on many different threads you glorify rap..I don't get it..are you a prog lover or rap fan ?? and remember this is PROG archives..for Rap archives go somewhere else.. |
Somebody can like both rap and prog! :O
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if you own a sodastream i hate you
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ExittheLemming
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Joined: October 19 2007
Location: Penal Colony
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Points: 11420
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Posted: November 02 2009 at 20:02 |
Henry Plainview wrote:
angelmk wrote:
Textbook wrote:
Hey everybody, Block dislikes rap music. This means he has superior taste and is on the cutting edge of life itself. Does that get it out of your system?
We don't care man. I can't stand Magma but you don't find me running around Magma threads telling people that. |
Not only Block dislikes rap, but the majority of PA members.. and You are just running around PA and praising Rap..on many different threads you glorify rap..I don't get it..are you a prog lover or rap fan ?? and remember this is PROG archives..for Rap archives go somewhere else.. |
Somebody can like both rap and prog! :O |
Is one of the brothers smacking my prog up ? Yep, albeit like a good
Scottish football goalkeeper, not beyond the realms of possibility. I
have a buddy whose 3 favourite artists are King Crimson, Ice T and
Slayer.
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angelmk
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Joined: November 22 2006
Location: Netherlands
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Points: 1955
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Posted: November 03 2009 at 10:11 |
Henry Plainview wrote:
angelmk wrote:
Textbook wrote:
Hey everybody, Block dislikes rap music. This means he has superior taste and is on the cutting edge of life itself. Does that get it out of your system?
We don't care man. I can't stand Magma but you don't find me running around Magma threads telling people that. |
Not only Block dislikes rap, but the majority of PA members.. and You are just running around PA and praising Rap..on many different threads you glorify rap..I don't get it..are you a prog lover or rap fan ?? and remember this is PROG archives..for Rap archives go somewhere else.. |
Somebody can like both rap and prog! :O |
Yeah right
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