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Joined: May 27 2005
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Posted: September 29 2009 at 14:55
Also, this reminds me of the ending to Opeth's Still Life. The main character (does he have a name?) is right before being hanged sees the ghost of Melinda next to him, despite being an atheist. I think it's an interesting shift for the story. I'd actually like to know if that's a reflection of Mikael's beliefs at all.
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Posted: September 30 2009 at 04:16
I think that modern physics is much more bizzare and odd than any silly ghosts stories. If you feel lack of magic than learn physics. It is all magic !
Apart from that, angels in the bible are people who bring messages. Only much later on (Isia something I guess) there is a descreption of angels as we used to think about them today and they are called in a different name (The one good thing about knowing hebrew is the ability to read the bible in it's original language). However, If you read that descreption closely you'll realise he was taking some hot staff !
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Posted: October 01 2009 at 16:57
mrcozdude wrote:
No but I do believe in Psychic energy's which have the presence of a ghost
yes, me too. also i am not afraid of death (ofc it would be very sad because im much too young to die) because i believe that my soul will perfectly exist without my body and sometime will live in onother body again.
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Posted: October 05 2009 at 02:12
Like Nightfly, this poll is too black and white . There's no room for grey areas - and I'm not being flippant.
I had some experiences in a house I owned back in the early 80s that I simply cannot explain . One of these events took place in the presence of others and two or three others involved just me. I didn't see a human form or white or grey area misty beings moving or anything in that traditional / fantasy sense that others may well claim to have seen. Each of these things occurred in daylight.
All I can say is that my personal experiences [ and I don't really want to go into them any further ] have left me , well , not a non-believer. I am open to the suggested existence of inexplicable forces because I have experienced such things . Paranormal ? Maybe . 'Ghosts ' in common parlance ? I cannot say.
I did some years later find out from a friend who was a relative of a former owner of the house that his wife had died in the house a number of years before I owned it and that he had experienced a strong desire to buy the house back to move into it. He never did . I moved on . The house has changed hands many times and it is still there. I have had no similar experiences since.
From my point of view, religiuos commitment or influences do not enter into it.
Looking still the same after all these years...
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Posted: October 09 2009 at 12:54
Maybe I can help... in the Christian believes, The Old Testament proclaim about the physical resurrection and the preservation of the physical bodies in the judgement day... the conservation of the body is really clear on that believe... then... in the New Testament Jesus speaks very graphical that no dead man is aloud to leave heaven or hell to come to the "real world" so, if you're christian, you don't have to believe in ghost as a soul of death people...
In the other hand, if you're not Christian, you can say that those entities that can been seing or feel are more like energies of the brains or massive alucinations... there's a lot of studies bout that... what I really believe is that there are energies that get free when the brain dies, and that energies remains here, on the physical side, or the material side... and that's what we can believe is a ghost... just energy surrounding the places... but you know... maybe when I die I can show you... jajaja.. not.. not kiddin... jejeje...
Change the program inside... Stay in silence is a crime.
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Posted: October 09 2009 at 13:00
By the way... I feel there's no room on this poll... cause you believe or not... and I feel must of us have an idea... or an exponation... so there must be a third option, you know... like a paralel exponation or something like that...
I'm totally Christian Catholic and believes the tradition have a lot of reasons about many things... and Do not believes in ghosts, but there's not deny about some rare fenomena that is not explain yet... I go for the brain potential energy that we still don't understand...
Change the program inside... Stay in silence is a crime.
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Posted: October 12 2009 at 02:50
Alberto Muņoz wrote:
Jim Garten wrote:
I've had some experiences which push me to vote 'yes'
Me too
That makes three of us - but i can't vote because i don't understand how or why the things I've experienced happened.
In my previous house I had a book about UFOs on the bedroom bookshelf, wedged tight between other books. I came home from work one night and there it was on the floor. And that was just one of many such experiences in that house...
It's not that I can't find worth in anything, it's just that I can't find worth in enough.
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Posted: October 12 2009 at 03:21
el dingo wrote:
Alberto Muņoz wrote:
Jim Garten wrote:
I've had some experiences which push me to vote 'yes'
Me too
That makes three of us - but i can't vote because i don't understand how or why the things I've experienced happened.
In my previous house I had a book about UFOs on the bedroom bookshelf, wedged tight between other books. I came home from work one night and there it was on the floor. And that was just one of many such experiences in that house...
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Posted: October 12 2009 at 23:47
I don't believe in them per se, but admit that they might exist, though strictly as a scientific phenomena, not some magical inexplicable spiritual thing.
Emotional energy exists in some physical form. It may be possible that, especially in case of an extreme event such as murder or rape, or someone inhabiting the same place for decades, this energy does not dissipate and 'stains' a location. In certain conditions, especially when dark/quiet and the observer is undistracted, we become susceptible to this energy and it gives us thoughts and sensory impressions. These impressions are what we call ghosts. They are not visitations from beyond the grave, but emotional stains.
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Posted: October 12 2009 at 23:49
Textbook wrote:
I don't believe in them per se, but admit that they might exist, though strictly as a scientific phenomena, not some magical inexplicable spiritual thing.
Emotional energy exists in some physical form. It may be possible that, especially in case of an extreme event such as murder or rape, or someone inhabiting the same place for decades, this energy does not dissipate and 'stains' a location. In certain conditions, especially when dark/quiet and the observer is undistracted, we become susceptible to this energy and it gives us thoughts and sensory impressions. These impressions are what we call ghosts. They are not visitations from beyond the grave, but emotional stains.
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Posted: October 13 2009 at 02:30
el dingo wrote:
Alberto Muņoz wrote:
Jim Garten wrote:
I've had some experiences which push me to vote 'yes'
Me too
That makes three of us
The problem with elaborating on such experiences on an open forum is whilst you cannot generally explain them & are not saying they prove the existence of the supernatural, you just know any elaboration will invite derisive denial from some quarters
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Posted: October 13 2009 at 02:41
Jim Garten wrote:
el dingo wrote:
Alberto Muņoz wrote:
Jim Garten wrote:
I've had some experiences which push me to vote 'yes'
Me too
That makes three of us
The problem with elaborating on such experiences on an open forum is whilst you cannot generally explain them & are not saying they prove the existence of the supernatural, you just know any elaboration will invite derisive denial from some quarters
pppf! you're imagining something that hasn't happened yet
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