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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 06 2009 at 17:26
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 06 2009 at 17:47
How about this . . .
 
I just bought Octobre's and Garolou's compilation CDs, as well as Cano's 2 CDs.  I've ordered lots from ProgQuebec (Sloche, Morse Code, Contraction, Conventum, etc), which should be here shortly!  This is great stuff . . . I especially love the material from Octobre's "Les Nouvelles Terres" album.  Boy I feel like a wide-eyed, wonder-filled noob again!  LOL
 
And by the way . . . I've had Sloche's "J'un Oiel" on the Tachika CD for a while--great album--but I'm buying the proper version now that it's out.  Just so you don't think that no one who bought the "pirated" version will buy the official one.  Wink
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 06 2009 at 18:02
Originally posted by Todd Todd wrote:

How about this . . .
 
I just bought Octobre's and Garolou's compilation CDs, as well as Cano's 2 CDs.  I've ordered lots from ProgQuebec (Sloche, Morse Code, Contraction, Conventum, etc), which should be here shortly!  This is great stuff . . . I especially love the material from Octobre's "Les Nouvelles Terres" album.  Boy I feel like a wide-eyed, wonder-filled noob again!  LOL
 
And by the way . . . I've had Sloche's "J'un Oiel" on the Tachika CD for a while--great album--but I'm buying the proper version now that it's out.  Just so you don't think that no one who bought the "pirated" version will buy the official one.  Wink
 
Clap Wow, that's all some good stuff!
I just wrote Beau Dommage's bio, now they're on PA in Prog Related. I'm now adding all their albums! Big smile
After that I'll also write Péloquin-Sauvageau's bio, and they'll be added too
 
And thanks to Todd, this thread was dying in agony Tongue


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Originally posted by Todd Todd wrote:

How about this . . .
 
I just bought Octobre's and Garolou's compilation CDs, as well as Cano's 2 CDs.  I've ordered lots from ProgQuebec (Sloche, Morse Code, Contraction, Conventum, etc), which should be here shortly!  This is great stuff . . . I especially love the material from Octobre's "Les Nouvelles Terres" album.  Boy I feel like a wide-eyed, wonder-filled noob again!  LOL
 
And by the way . . . I've had Sloche's "J'un Oiel" on the Tachika CD for a while--great album--but I'm buying the proper version now that it's out.  Just so you don't think that no one who bought the "pirated" version will buy the official one.  Wink
Have you tried Maneige???? These guys top them akk uin my eyes
 
Opus-5 and Et Cetera are also very worthy.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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In the Mriodor genre and tims-space (late 80's - early 90's) , who remembers the all-girls group Wondeur Brass (2 albums in 85 & 87) and its continuation Justine (two albums in 91 and 93)? .....
 
excellent Avant-prog and RIO Clap
 
 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 11 2009 at 05:26
Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

Originally posted by Todd Todd wrote:

How about this . . .
 
I just bought Octobre's and Garolou's compilation CDs, as well as Cano's 2 CDs.  I've ordered lots from ProgQuebec (Sloche, Morse Code, Contraction, Conventum, etc), which should be here shortly!  This is great stuff . . . I especially love the material from Octobre's "Les Nouvelles Terres" album.  Boy I feel like a wide-eyed, wonder-filled noob again!  LOL
 
And by the way . . . I've had Sloche's "J'un Oiel" on the Tachika CD for a while--great album--but I'm buying the proper version now that it's out.  Just so you don't think that no one who bought the "pirated" version will buy the official one.  Wink
Have you tried Maneige???? These guys top them akk uin my eyes
 
Opus-5 and Et Cetera are also very worthy.
 

 
 
Maneige - st  ,is very good ..i like it .. Opus-5 also are excellent  i have heard Contre Courant ,enjoyable listen  



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Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

Have you tried Maneige???? These guys top them akk uin my eyes
 
Opus-5 and Et Cetera are also very worthy.
 
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In the Mriodor genre and tims-space (late 80's - early 90's) , who remembers the all-girls group Wondeur Brass (2 albums in 85 & 87) and its continuation Justine (two albums in 91 and 93)? .....
 
excellent Avant-prog and RIO Clap
 
 
 
 
Et Cetera is amazing, really similar to Gentle Giant. Maneige's Les Porches is one of the best Québecois albums of all time.
 
I don't know thoso two Québecois RIO bands, Wondeur Brass and Justine, but I'm really appreciating RIO music, so I'll have to check them! Smile Thanks for the suggestion Hugues!
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 12 2009 at 02:47
Originally posted by Tsevir Leirbag Tsevir Leirbag wrote:

Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

Have you tried Maneige???? These guys top them akk uin my eyes
 
Opus-5 and Et Cetera are also very worthy.
 
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In the Mriodor genre and tims-space (late 80's - early 90's) , who remembers the all-girls group Wondeur Brass (2 albums in 85 & 87) and its continuation Justine (two albums in 91 and 93)? .....
 
excellent Avant-prog and RIO Clap
 
 
 
 
Et Cetera is amazing, really similar to Gentle Giant. Maneige's Les Porches is one of the best Québecois albums of all time.
 
I don't know thoso two Québecois RIO bands, Wondeur Brass and Justine, but I'm really appreciating RIO music, so I'll have to check them! Smile Thanks for the suggestion Hugues!
 
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I'll include thetwo groups i,n thecoming weeks
 
I thinkk all of their output was on the outstanding Ambience Magnetique label that released so much unconventional music.
 
Wondeur brass is a mix of Miriodor and EtronFou Le Loublan.
 
 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 12 2009 at 13:11
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Have you tried Maneige???? These guys top them akk uin my eyes
 
Opus-5 and Et Cetera are also very worthy.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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In the Mriodor genre and tims-space (late 80's - early 90's) , who remembers the all-girls group Wondeur Brass (2 albums in 85 & 87) and its continuation Justine (two albums in 91 and 93)? .....
 
excellent Avant-prog and RIO Clap
 
 
 
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Here's the RPQ I have so far:

Cano – Tou Dans l’Meme Bateau, Au Nord de Notre

Contraction – Same, La Bourse ou la Vie

Conventum – A L’Affut, Le Bureau

L’Engoulevent – I’Ile Ou Vivent Les Loups

Et Cetera – same

Excubus – Memoires

Fiori/Seguin – Deux Cents Nuits a l’Heure

Garolou – Tableau d’Hier vol 1 and 2

Harmonium – same, Cinq Saisons, l’Heptade

Charles Kaczynski – Lumiere

Yves Laferriere – same

Lasting Weep – L’Albatross

Maneige – same, Les Porches, Ni Vent . . .

Morse Code – La Marche des Hommes, Procreation, Je Suis le Temps

Octobre – 1972-1989

Opus-5 – Contre Courant, Serieux Ou Pas

Pollen – same

Jacques Tom Rivest – same

Sloche – J’un Oiel, Stadacone

L’Ultime Rock Progressif Quebecois compilation

 

From the RIO category:

Miriodor – Rencontres, Jongleries Elastiques, Mekano, Avanti!

Rouge Ciel – same

 

Others I have that may fit the RPQ classification (please forgive me if they do not!):

Ere G – Au Dela des Hombres

Michel le Francois – Sur la Terre Comme au Ciel

Hune – De l’Autre Cote du Mond

Mundi Domini – same

Please let me know if you see any glaring omissions that I could add, or any other recommendations you have.  Merci!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 12 2009 at 14:55
At Todd: That' a GREAT collection you got here! Clap In others that may fit the RPQ classification, you should get some Offenbach and some Robert Charlebois (particularly Robert Charlebois avec Louise Forestier and Québec Love and the album with Fu Man Chu on it... I don't remember its name)

At Hugues: That's great! Smile I love both Miriodor and Étron Fou Leloublan,  so I'm pretty intrigued Wondeur Brass. I'll check them as soon as I can (if you have any samples, would you please PM me?)

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 12 2009 at 18:30
a note on Etcetera, the Gentle Giant comparison is good, but I would add that they are a mellower Giant, more akin to Power & the Glory era sound.
And if you love Maneige, You may like Leitmotiv. The best part of this recommendation - you can listen to their music for free (legally) - and then decide how much you're going to give.
as for missing RPQ from your list , Todd - Le Match (imagine Garolou with a more medieval sound), Jelly Fiche (Sean's review is pretty good. Though I find them run of the mill prog), Breche.
There are two that aren't yet at PA - Eclipse ( http://rapidshare.com/files/147330461/Eclipse-s.t.-Canada-1976.zip.html) - "Vision Interieur" sounds like a Floyd outtake from WIsh you were Here; "Pleine Lune" ,  Eloy meets Hawkwind; Le Reve de John W." is a late 70s fusion piece; "La Derniere Fois" could pass a Matha & the Muffins doing an early Beatles tune, "TAime (Voix) & T'Aime (Moog) are spacey one minute fillers; "Qu'attends-tu de Moi" is 70s Quebec pop rack radio fare" ; and "Pensee pour Barbara / Honey #38" is a spacey piece that I can't compare except to the Echo Era Floyd or early Eloy.
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Of the current Quebecois groups I enjoy Talisma, Kaos Moon, Daniel Gauthier (who should be here).  I also enjoy Orealis, who recorded in the 90s.

You should try Capharnaum, what a great album they put out (Le soleil est une bombe atomique)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 15 2009 at 10:54
Originally posted by Todd Todd wrote:

 

Here's the RPQ I have so far:

Cano – Tous Dans l’Meme Bateau, Au Nord de Notre, Eclipse (vinyl only)

Contraction – Same, La Bourse ou la Vie

Conventum – A L’Affut, Le Bureau

L’Engoulevent – I’Ile Ou Vivent Les Loups

Et Cetera – same

Excubus – Memoires

Fiori/Seguin – Deux Cents Nuits a l’Heure

Garolou – Tableau d’Hier vol 1 and 2

Harmonium – same, Cinq Saisons, l’Heptade

Charles Kaczynski – Lumiere

Yves Laferriere – same

Lasting Weep – L’Albatross

Maneige – same, Les Porches, Ni Vent . . ., Libre Service

Morse Code – La Marche des Hommes, Procreation, Je Suis le Temps, Morse Code Transmission 1 & 2

Octobre – 1972-1989

Opus-5 – Contre Courant, Serieux Ou Pas

Pollen – same

Jacques Tom Rivest – same

Sloche – J’un Oeuil, Stadacone

Dyonisos - Le Prince Droule (vynil only)
 
The albums from Connivence, Agape, Boule De Soàn, Demi Heure, Eden, Ungava, Le Match

L’Ultime Rock Progressif Quebecois compilation

 

From the RIO category:

Miriodor – Rencontres, Jongleries Elastiques, Mekano, Avanti!

Rouge Ciel – same

 Interference Sardines - Mare Chistum, Zucchini (but avoid Spot De Rue)

 Les Poules, Wondeur Brass and Justine (all of them Hétu's projects)
 
 
Others I have that may fit the RPQ classification (please forgive me if they do not!):

Ere G – Au Dela des Hombres

Michel le Francois – Sur la Terre Comme au Ciel

Hune – De l’Autre Cote du Mond

Mundi Domini – same  >>> this one would easily fit xith Miriodor and Justine

Please let me know if you see any glaring omissions that I could add, or any other recommendations you have.  Merci!

 
No glaring omissions, except for :Libre Service (Maneige's second best) >>> and you might want to try their live albums too) and Interference Sardines and Dyonisos
 
I have added a few suggestions here and there
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 15 2009 at 11:27
Originally posted by Birdman Birdman wrote:


Of the current Quebecois groups I enjoy Talisma, Kaos Moon, Daniel Gauthier (who should be here).  I also enjoy Orealis, who recorded in the 90s.

You should try Capharnaum, what a great album they put out (Le soleil est une bombe atomique)
 
Thanks!  Capharnaum has been on my short list and is now very near the top.  I'll look into the others also.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 15 2009 at 12:01
Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

Originally posted by Todd Todd wrote:

 

Here's the RPQ I have so far:

Cano – Tous Dans l’Meme Bateau, Au Nord de Notre, Eclipse (vinyl only)

Contraction – Same, La Bourse ou la Vie

Conventum – A L’Affut, Le Bureau

L’Engoulevent – I’Ile Ou Vivent Les Loups

Et Cetera – same

Excubus – Memoires

Fiori/Seguin – Deux Cents Nuits a l’Heure

Garolou – Tableau d’Hier vol 1 and 2

Harmonium – same, Cinq Saisons, l’Heptade

Charles Kaczynski – Lumiere

Yves Laferriere – same

Lasting Weep – L’Albatross

Maneige – same, Les Porches, Ni Vent . . ., Libre Service

Morse Code – La Marche des Hommes, Procreation, Je Suis le Temps, Morse Code Transmission 1 & 2

Octobre – 1972-1989

Opus-5 – Contre Courant, Serieux Ou Pas

Pollen – same

Jacques Tom Rivest – same

Sloche – J’un Oeuil, Stadacone

Dyonisos - Le Prince Droule (vynil only)
 
The albums from Connivence, Agape, Boule De Soàn, Demi Heure, Eden, Ungava, Le Match

L’Ultime Rock Progressif Quebecois compilation

 

From the RIO category:

Miriodor – Rencontres, Jongleries Elastiques, Mekano, Avanti!

Rouge Ciel – same

 Interference Sardines - Mare Chistum, Zucchini (but avoid Spot De Rue)

 Les Poules, Wondeur Brass and Justine (all of them Hétu's projects)
 
 
Others I have that may fit the RPQ classification (please forgive me if they do not!):

Ere G – Au Dela des Hombres

Michel le Francois – Sur la Terre Comme au Ciel

Hune – De l’Autre Cote du Mond

Mundi Domini – same  >>> this one would easily fit xith Miriodor and Justine

Please let me know if you see any glaring omissions that I could add, or any other recommendations you have.  Merci!

 
No glaring omissions, except for :Libre Service (Maneige's second best) >>> and you might want to try their live albums too) and Interference Sardines and Dyonisos
 
I have added a few suggestions here and there
 
Thanks Hugues!  I appreciate very much your suggestions.  The vinyl will be hard to come by . . . perhaps there will be more repressings for bands like Dionysos, Ungava, etc?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 15 2009 at 17:23
Mundi Domini... Another band I'll have to check. Think I'll start a list Tongue
Interférence Sardines is great! If I knew them a year ago, I could've seen them Unhappy
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 15 2009 at 18:45
Originally posted by Birdman Birdman wrote:


Of the current Quebecois groups I enjoy Talisma, Kaos Moon, Daniel Gauthier (who should be here).  I also enjoy Orealis, who recorded in the 90s.

You should try Capharnaum, what a great album they put out (Le soleil est une bombe atomique)


Daniel Gauthier is here. http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=4842
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 16 2009 at 09:32
Originally posted by Todd Todd wrote:

Thanks Hugues!  I appreciate very much your suggestions.  The vinyl will be hard to come by . . . perhaps there will be more repressings for bands like Dionysos, Ungava, etc?
 
Well the early Dyonisos albums have been bootlegged, which is probably why ProgQuebec is not in hurry to attack the first two albums, the next two (legit released) being a lot less interesting  (but then again Sloche was also bootlegged but they did them anyway)
 
 
The guys from ProgQuebec have just called it quits for further FMPM organization, to concentrate more on the reissues....
 
Who knows??
 
Ungava, Nébu, Le Match are in the pipelines soon????
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^ I read that fast! I thought you were saying the FMPM wouldn't exist anymore.
In fact, that's probably a good thing for them (and us) to concentrate on re-editions. A lot of Québecois CDs that I'd love to get but I can't.
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I read that fast! I thought you were saying the FMPM wouldn't exist anymore. >> that's what I said and it is what THEY said
In fact, that's probably a good thing for them (and us) to concentrate on re-editions.
A lot of Québecois CDs that I'd love to get but I can't.
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Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

Originally posted by Tsevir Leirbag Tsevir Leirbag wrote:

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I read that fast! I thought you were saying the FMPM wouldn't exist anymore. >> that's what I said and it is what THEY said
In fact, that's probably a good thing for them (and us) to concentrate on re-editions.
A lot of Québecois CDs that I'd love to get but I can't.
 
You said ProgQuébec was quitting the Montréal's Progressive Music Festival's organisation. Not that the Festival wouldn't exist... I mean, ProgressiveEars and Progresson will still handle the Festival, won't they? Disapprove
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