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Poll Question: Which is the worst Dream Theater album ?
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35 [25.18%]
4 [2.88%]
5 [3.60%]
20 [14.39%]
6 [4.32%]
6 [4.32%]
9 [6.47%]
15 [10.79%]
24 [17.27%]
15 [10.79%]
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C'mon Train Of Thought is a complex-metal fest with some prog moments. I love it.

Of course if you can't stand a heavy album you shoul avoid it, but then again you should avoid Dream Theater anyway (maybe except FIF and 8V).

FIF is so underrated, it has an unique sound and some amazing songs. Ok there's some filler there too, but it is not a bad album by any means. The same goes for Systematic, with ITPOE and Mynistry being great songs, making more than half of the album.

My vote is between the debut and BC & SL.

But, WDADU is in fact a very good album considering it's a debut, and with a better production could be a lot more enjoyable. BC & SL is hit & miss all the time, the thing is that almost all its "hits" , while beatiful, are predictable and nothing new, and the "misses" are really lame and immature (discussed too many times already).

So my vote goes to BC&SL
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Octavarium for me. 

For me DT's decline started when Kevin Moore stepped out of the picture. They were then looking for a new balance with Derek Sherinian and now Jordan Rudess. Both are amazing keyboard wizards, but I think the band suffers the domination of JP and MP. With other albums there were glimpses that they might have found a direction, but the brilliance are often abandaoned, unfortunately not fully developed in the next albums. Octavarium, i think, is the culmination of their directionlessness.

Octavarium is where I gave up. Maybe the last two could have been better, but i have littel money and too many other bands are on my wishlist. Besides, looking at this poll, it will be some time before I buy yet another DT CD.
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Train of Thought is unlistenable save Stream of Consciousness.
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Interesting... according to the reviews... Falling into Infinity could lead this challenge... but at the end of the day people still like it a lot... my vote is for Systematic Chaos -funny, I'm hearing it right now- guess the music is great as always but the lyrics are so out of place here... and the drums sound isn't  that well... and Portnoy trying to sing... yes.. I don't like that... Then I like a lot every single album from them... interesting answers guys...!!!

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Originally posted by SgtPepper67 SgtPepper67 wrote:

How could anyone vote for Scenes from a Memory?


I'm one of those who voted for SFAM. It's not easy to explain. I'm such a huge DT fan, I really love all of their outputs, but for me SFAM is by far the least interesting. I could try to show all my reasons to say that, but it would take me a long time to write and a long time for you all to read. Tongue

Originally posted by toolis toolis wrote:

aaah, a moral victory, so far, for I&W and Awake, two monumental albums....


I'm guessing none of these albums are getting any votes by the end of the poll, which is great. Two truly masterpieces. Clap

Originally posted by J-Man J-Man wrote:

Sorry Pablo, but you're not the typical DT fan. If you love Falling Into Infinity and hate Scenes From A Memory YOU'RE the fool


In this case, I'd be a fool, as well. LOL
What's the point on labeling typical fans? I quite never undertood that. I know, it'd be odd, for example, if I was a Yes fan who thinks CTTE to be their weakest release. But music is still a matter of taste, isn't it?
I understand the fact that most DT fans love SFAM, but I don't think this means I can't be a big fan like them just because I don't think this album is that good. Always keep in mind that I never said it's bad. I think it's very good, but weaker in comparision to other DT albums.


The only sad thing about this poll is to find WDADU as the most disliked album. Ouch
There's a lot of good stuff in this album. Of course it's atrociously bad produced and the vocals are not that good too (even though Charlie Dominici is not a bad singer at all), but musically there are several memorable moments, IMO.
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Originally posted by The Quiet One The Quiet One wrote:

Originally posted by J-Man J-Man wrote:

Originally posted by The Quiet One The Quiet One wrote:

Originally posted by J-Man J-Man wrote:

Their debut is very good, just the production quality is laughable. Falling Into Infinity is their worst IMO.

-Jeff


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Falling Into Infinity > Octavarium and Scenes attached

TAKE THAT YOU FOOL! Wink


Sorry Pablo, but you're not the typical DT fan. If you love Falling Into Infinity and hate Scenes From A Memory YOU'RE the foolWink


Of course I'm not, and always admitted thatWink

I might not even consider myself a DT fan, but Falling Into Infinity is really superb for me, also is Images & Words. Awake and A Change of Seasons come close.

Not a metal fan, probably explains the reason.
 
Agree with Pablo... But I consider myself a die hard fan... and still love the FII... God, I like all their repertorie from the 90's... and a little less their 00's albums... But as Pablo said, you can see the sound from Octavarium in Falling... yes... Octavarium is in fact, a try to make a good -not so criticable- Falling into Infinity... both albums are great... as simple as that...  Smile
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I voted for Systematic Chaos. It's been a while since I listened to it but I can't remember a single positive moment in the entire album. Falling Into Infinity had Trial Of Tears and a few other pretty OK songs and Train Of Thought had the superb Stream Of Consciousness and a few other good songs. Their debut also had a few moments of greatness scattered throughout.
As my memory currently stands, SC would get a one star from me. One of these days I'll get around to relistening to it and hopefully my mind will change.
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i choose Octavarium , i don't like it .. 
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octavarium by far for me. I like most of the other stuff they have done, but I never got into this one. 


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Originally posted by jampa17 jampa17 wrote:

Originally posted by The Quiet One The Quiet One wrote:

Originally posted by J-Man J-Man wrote:

Originally posted by The Quiet One The Quiet One wrote:

Originally posted by J-Man J-Man wrote:

Their debut is very good, just the production quality is laughable. Falling Into Infinity is their worst IMO.

-Jeff


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Falling Into Infinity > Octavarium and Scenes attached

TAKE THAT YOU FOOL! Wink


Sorry Pablo, but you're not the typical DT fan. If you love Falling Into Infinity and hate Scenes From A Memory YOU'RE the foolWink


Of course I'm not, and always admitted thatWink

I might not even consider myself a DT fan, but Falling Into Infinity is really superb for me, also is Images & Words. Awake and A Change of Seasons come close.

Not a metal fan, probably explains the reason.
 
Agree with Pablo... But I consider myself a die hard fan... and still love the FII... God, I like all their repertorie from the 90's... and a little less their 00's albums... But as Pablo said, you can see the sound from Octavarium in Falling... yes... Octavarium is in fact, a try to make a good -not so criticable- Falling into Infinity... both albums are great... as simple as that...  Smile


Huh? Where did I say that?Confused

Don't consider Octavarium to sound anything like Falling Into Infinity....
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Octavarium.. though all their albums after ToT haven't impressed me much really. DT have somewhat stagnated with their ideas since.

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I haven't rated Train of Thought on Mike's site yet, but it is my next listen from my re-listening to DT.  I'm not sure where it will fall.
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Systematic Chaos. It's very, very heartless, remote, routine, and screams "out of ideas."

I'm also willing to say Falling Into Infinity is a better album than Scenes from a Memory, or at least just as good. I like most of the shorter songs on FII, and it doesn't have random honkey-tonk crap from Rudess.


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Originally posted by stonebeard stonebeard wrote:

Systematic Chaos. It's very, very heartless, remote, routine, and screams "out of ideas."

I'm also willing to say Falling Into Infinity is a better album than Scenes from a Memory, or at least just as good. I like most of the shorter songs on FII, and it doesn't have random honkey-tonk crap from Rudess.


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Originally posted by The Quiet One The Quiet One wrote:

Originally posted by stonebeard stonebeard wrote:

Systematic Chaos. It's very, very heartless, remote, routine, and screams "out of ideas."

I'm also willing to say Falling Into Infinity is a better album than Scenes from a Memory, or at least just as good. I like most of the shorter songs on FII, and it doesn't have random honkey-tonk crap from Rudess.


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Agree...!!! totally... just that Scenes is a little better for the whole concept... but in sound and the ideas of Rudess... darn...!!! Sherinian is so underrated... he's great... and has a different vibe in his performance, that makes DT solos really interesting... not just "The fastest, the thoughest, the meanest...."
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Originally posted by The Quiet One The Quiet One wrote:

Originally posted by J-Man J-Man wrote:

Their debut is very good, just the production quality is laughable. Falling Into Infinity is their worst IMO.

-Jeff


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Falling Into Infinity > Octavarium and Scenes attached

TAKE THAT YOU FOOL! Wink
 
Here you said it... right...??? or what do you mean then...??? not that have the same sound but that the ideas from the Falling into Infinity where long developed in those two albums... right...??? jejeje... if it's not what you meant... jejeje.. sorry...!!! Embarrassed


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Falling to Infinity. The only cd they did with the pressure of a record company to make some hits. But ironically, the longest tracks are the worst songs on the cd!
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Originally posted by jampa17 jampa17 wrote:

Originally posted by The Quiet One The Quiet One wrote:

Originally posted by J-Man J-Man wrote:

Their debut is very good, just the production quality is laughable. Falling Into Infinity is their worst IMO.

-Jeff


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Falling Into Infinity > Octavarium and Scenes attached

TAKE THAT YOU FOOL! Wink
 
Here you said it... right...??? or what do you mean then...??? not that have the same sound but that the ideas from the Falling into Infinity where long developed in those two albums... right...??? jejeje... if it's not what you meant... jejeje.. sorry...!!! Embarrassed


No, that's not what I meantWink

I meant that Falling Into Infinity is better than Scenes and Octavarium. And no, I do not think that in Scenes and in Octavarium the ideas from Falling Into Infinity are developed at all.
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