Which is the worst Dream Theater album ?

^ Dream Theater have proven on their other albums that they are good at balancing their albums (soft/heavy, fast/slow etc.). On this one they wanted to be more heavy, and I really love it. Of course if you don't like metal and are simply tolerating that aspect of their music on their other albums, I can imagine that you don't like the album. But for guys like me, who are metalheads through and through, that album is a really pleasant ride. It's the same with Symphony X's The Odyssey IMO.

Mr ProgFreak wrote: ^ Dream Theater have proven on their other albums that they are good at balancing their albums (soft/heavy, fast/slow etc.). On this one they wanted to be more heavy, and I really love it. Of course if you don't like metal and are simply tolerating that aspect of their music on their other albums, I can imagine that you don't like the album. But for guys like me, who are metalheads through and through, that album is a really pleasant ride. It's the same with Symphony X's The Odyssey IMO.

As I said, some folks (like you) are into that sort of thing.  I generally am not, hence why Train of Thought is crappy to me.

Musically I'm a very well-rounded person, and I enjoy (not tolerate) metal (still don't take well to the growls though).

I think my favorite Dream Theater albums would go like this:

1. Scenes from a Memory
2. Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence
3. Falling Into Infinity

...which I guess says how much of a metalhead I am, but Train of Thought is something I really can't stand (and I rated the beloved Images and Words a two).

Edit: To be fair, I have not heard the debut, which I hear is bad, but I figure nine out of ten albums is enough to render a vote.



Edited by Epignosis - October 04 2009 at 14:58

When Dream and Day Unite

It pains me to see people give crap to the debut and Scenes From A Memory... The worst is Train of Thought, it is the one DT album I truly hate. It makes me realize just why so many people have bad feelings towards the band. It's thoughtless except for a few songs, and there isn't much to explore in it.

Conor Fynes wrote: It pains me to see people give crap to the debut and Scenes From A Memory... The worst is Train of Thought, it is the one DT album I truly hate. It makes me realize just why so many people have bad feelings towards the band. It's thoughtless except for a few songs, and there isn't much to explore in it.

If you don't like it then that's that, but IMO all of the songs are quite memorable ... and they grew on me. There's no track on the album that I would want to skip.

aaah, a moral victory, so far, for I&W and Awake, two monumental albums....

Mr ProgFreak wrote: Epignosis wrote: What?  No votes for the angry mush of sound that is Train of Thought? Well, let me cast the first groan... Mush of sound? I think the album is very well produced. I also enjoy listening to it a lot ...

progkidjoel wrote: Epignosis wrote: progkidjoel wrote: Systematic Chaos here... Although Octavarium was close behind. EDIT: Good that there's no votes for Awake or I&W, my two favourites Were it not for Train of Thought, that's precisely where my vote would have went. Train Of Thought is the one DT album I've yet to own, but I'm really losing touch with the band (unless its those two albums) so I don't think I'll bother getting ToT. A friend said its their most metal based, but I don't generally like metal anyway.

ToT is fine. In fact at least 4 songs on there are some of DT's best. But i understand where people are coming from if they arent big on metal.

But Octavarium as one of their worst? there's only one track that's throwaway and it's "I Walk Beside You". Some dont like "The Answer Lies Within" but i think it's a beautiful song. It contrasts the opening heavy hitter "The Root of All Evil" very well. The album has great atmosphere and some ambience, something you only find on SDOIT disc 1. Not to mention it contains DT's best epic in the title track.

If "Forsaken" and "Phrophets of War" were taken out of SC, it'd be one of their best, and would still be over an hour long! I can stand Forsaken sometimes though...

New album is perfect. Best 2000s album for them IMO which is good cause this decade is kind of coming to a close.....


Edited by darkshade - October 04 2009 at 16:33

6 Degrees of Inner Turbulence's first disc is the closest DT has come to atrocious level... but the second disc is fantastic so in general I'll have to say Train of Though, though is still growing with me...