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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 13 2009 at 19:04
You know, it really does depend where this "someone new" is, musically. For instance, I tried this very thing on a friend of mine recently who's into the heavier rock that gets airplay. So i suggested some Mastodon and I handed him Dream Theater, SFaM. It worked.
 
But for the overall intro to prog rock? I'd have to choose:
 
Rush - Moving Pictures
Yes - Fragile
King Crimson - ITCotCK
Pink Floyd - Wish You Were Here
and a few others.
 
When it comes to this, you just can't beat the tried and true classics, IMO.
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 13 2009 at 19:13
I'd give them a little bit of every type of prog. Some symphonic, some prog metal, a little bit of RIO, some psych and some progressive death metal.

In no particular order:

1. Close to the Edge- Yes
2. Still Life- Opeth
3. Scenes From A Memory- Dream Theater
4. Foxtrot- Genesis
5. Snow- Spock's Beard
6. Wish You Were Here- Pink Floyd
7. Hot Rats- Frank Zappa
8. Abbey Road- The Beatles
9. The Sum of No Evil- The Flower Kings
10. Symbolic- DeathEvil Smile

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 13 2009 at 19:18
Originally posted by J-Man J-Man wrote:

I'd give them a little bit of every type of prog. Some symphonic, some prog metal, a little bit of RIO, some psych and some progressive death metal.

In no particular order:

1. Close to the Edge- Yes
2. Still Life- Opeth
3. Scenes From A Memory- Dream Theater
4. Foxtrot- Genesis
5. Snow- Spock's Beard
6. Wish You Were Here- Pink Floyd
7. Hot Rats- Frank Zappa
8. Abbey Road- The Beatles
9. The Sum of No Evil- The Flower Kings
10. Symbolic- DeathEvil Smile


There's no RIO there, Zappa is Avant, and that album by him is Jazz RockWink
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 13 2009 at 19:24
Originally posted by J-Man J-Man wrote:


10. Symbolic- DeathEvil Smile
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 13 2009 at 19:26
Originally posted by The Quiet One The Quiet One wrote:

Originally posted by J-Man J-Man wrote:

I'd give them a little bit of every type of prog. Some symphonic, some prog metal, a little bit of RIO, some psych and some progressive death metal.

In no particular order:

1. Close to the Edge- Yes
2. Still Life- Opeth
3. Scenes From A Memory- Dream Theater
4. Foxtrot- Genesis
5. Snow- Spock's Beard
6. Wish You Were Here- Pink Floyd
7. Hot Rats- Frank Zappa
8. Abbey Road- The Beatles
9. The Sum of No Evil- The Flower Kings
10. Symbolic- DeathEvil Smile


There's no RIO there, Zappa is Avant, and that album by him is Jazz RockWink


I originally had Sleepytime Gorilla Museum in there, but then I got rid of it, but forgot to edit the top.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 14 2009 at 07:23

If the idea is not to be too challenging then we may steer clear of Magma, Gentle Giant and Comus.

Dark Side of the Moon
ELP
Caravanserai
The Valentyne Suite
Grave New World
In and out of Focus
Atom Heart Mother
Stand Up
A Question of Balance
The Snow Goose
 
 
 
 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 16 2009 at 19:36
Originally posted by The Switch Blade The Switch Blade wrote:

If a friend tells you that he's interested in progressive music and wants ten albums to get introduced to the genre, what would you give them?

01. Pink Floyd - "Dark Side of the Moon"
02. Yes - "Close to the Edge"
03. King Crimson - "In the Court of the Crimson King"
04. Rush - "Moving Pictures"
05. Supertramp - "Breakfast in America"
06. Jethro Tull - "Thick as a Brick"
07. Porcupine Tree - "In Absentia"
08. Dream Theater - "Scenes From A Memory Metropolis Part II"
09. The Mars Volta - "De-Loused in the Comatorium"
10. Opeth - "Blackwater Park"
 The first 4 that you mentioned plus numbers 6 and 8.
 
#5 Octavarium- Dream Theater
#7 Sum of No Evil- The Flower Kings
#9 The Kindness to Strangers- Spocks Beard
#10 V- Spocks Beard
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Images and Words- Dream Theater
The Human Equation- Ayreon
Colors- Between the Buried and me
Foxtrot- Genesis
In a Flesh Aquarium- Unexpect
A Gentleman's Hurricane- Mind's Eye
Sola Scriptura- Neal Morse
Remedy Lane- Porcupine Tree
Second Life Syndrome- Riverside
Bridge Across Forever- Transatlantic

I think that covers a nice range of prog, maybe add in a little LTE to cement the instrumental side
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 20 2009 at 15:11
   awake-dream theater
  opeth-watershed
  slayer-god hates us all
  korni grupa-put za istok
 indexi-modra rijeka
 king crimson-in the court of king crimson
 megadeth-simphony of destruction
 metropolis 2-dream theater
 on an island-david gilmour
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 20 2009 at 16:46
Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

Originally posted by The Switch Blade The Switch Blade wrote:

If a friend tells you that he's interested in progressive music and wants ten albums to get introduced to the genre, what would you give them?

01. Pink Floyd - "Dark Side of the Moon"
02. Yes - "Close to the Edge"
03. King Crimson - "In the Court of the Crimson King"
04. Rush - "Moving Pictures"
05. Supertramp - "Breakfast in America"
06. Jethro Tull - "Thick as a Brick"
07. Porcupine Tree - "In Absentia"
08. Dream Theater - "Scenes From A Memory Metropolis Part II"
09. The Mars Volta - "De-Loused in the Comatorium"
10. Opeth - "Blackwater Park"


interesting.... but too anglo-centric... PT has no place there..  what is 'progressive' about them.  We can kick the decayed corpse of DT and ask just what is progressive about them... they have been making the same album for 10 years hahha.  Complex music doesn't make it prog.. much less progressive.

I'd spread the wealth... if they are into 'progressive music'  where is the vast wealth of music from Germany.


again though... progressive v. prog... a shame the two don't mean the same.   They should...  but someone had to genrify  prog and make complex synonymous with progressive.   What bunch of sh*t that is hahha.


I'll take a stab of course....

1. Yes - Tales from Topographic Oceans ( all bases are covered.. and  the shear scope of the album has never been approached.  Bands are too worried about pleasing fans.. and selling albums see DT)

2. ELP - Pictures at an Exhibition  (debatable if it was a successful attempt to merge classical with rock music.  But it is the one to start with.... )

3. Tangerine Dream - Phaedra (teach our young prog newbie early on that you don't have to be English.. or rock the house ... to be prog.. or progressive)

4.  Radiohead - OK Computer ( modern prog...  which was progessive... prog.. and just as importantly.. not ripping off what others did best 30 years ago)

5. Magma - Kobaia ( you can't have a top 10 albums for a prog newbie without including Magma... probably the most unique band in prog and once they hear them.. they'll be hooked. .and as I posted in my review.. THIS is the album for the newbie)

6. Genesis - Selling England by the Pound (as much as I hate giving this band props.. this album was one song short of absolute perfection.. and a prog newbie probably has little clue that Genesis existed before stinking up the 80's)

7. Mars Volta - Deloused in the Crematorium ( I do not care for the album... but agree with Raff and others... this group is the future of prog.  Prog without a doubt...  completely progressive and forging a progressive sound.. again.. not ripping off others)

8. Osanna - Palepoli ( call me a homer... but I'd bet everything I own.. that if Osanna were from England.. all the blinkered fans who equate prog with England would be sh*tting their pants over the album. It's that good.. that prog.. that progressive.. and it doesn't hurt that it rocks harder than any of the stuff in Prog Metal)

9. Opeth - Ghost Reveries ( a prog metal album so good.. even those who have made an internet career throwing sh*t at prog-metal ... love it to death. )

10.  Can -Tago Mago  (make a top 10 list without Can...  and you should be demoted to prog newbie yourself. Not my favorite from them.. but this one is the most essential.  The Krautrock starter) 



I couldn't agree more !  Clap


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 21 2009 at 13:32
Selling England by the pound - Genesis
Red - King Crimson
Going for the one - Yes
In Absentia - Porcupine Tree
Moving Pictures - Rush
Wish you were here - Pink Floyd
Songs from the wood - Jethro Tull
Erpland - Ozric Tentacles
Damnation - Opeth
Ok Computer - Radiohead

A reasonably accessable mixture of albums to break them in gently, and if that wins them over I'll hit them with some VDGG and GG..
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 21 2009 at 13:50
Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

Originally posted by The Switch Blade The Switch Blade wrote:

If a friend tells you that he's interested in progressive music and wants ten albums to get introduced to the genre, what would you give them?

01. Pink Floyd - "Dark Side of the Moon"
02. Yes - "Close to the Edge"
03. King Crimson - "In the Court of the Crimson King"
04. Rush - "Moving Pictures"
05. Supertramp - "Breakfast in America"
06. Jethro Tull - "Thick as a Brick"
07. Porcupine Tree - "In Absentia"
08. Dream Theater - "Scenes From A Memory Metropolis Part II"
09. The Mars Volta - "De-Loused in the Comatorium"
10. Opeth - "Blackwater Park"


interesting.... but too anglo-centric... PT has no place there..  what is 'progressive' about them.  We can kick the decayed corpse of DT and ask just what is progressive about them... they have been making the same album for 10 years hahha.  Complex music doesn't make it prog.. much less progressive.

I'd spread the wealth... if they are into 'progressive music'  where is the vast wealth of music from Germany.


again though... progressive v. prog... a shame the two don't mean the same.   They should...  but someone had to genrify  prog and make complex synonymous with progressive.   What bunch of sh*t that is hahha.


I'll take a stab of course....

1. Yes - Tales from Topographic Oceans ( all bases are covered.. and  the shear scope of the album has never been approached.  Bands are too worried about pleasing fans.. and selling albums see DT)

2. ELP - Pictures at an Exhibition  (debatable if it was a successful attempt to merge classical with rock music.  But it is the one to start with.... )

3. Tangerine Dream - Phaedra (teach our young prog newbie early on that you don't have to be English.. or rock the house ... to be prog.. or progressive)

4.  Radiohead - OK Computer ( modern prog...  which was progessive... prog.. and just as importantly.. not ripping off what others did best 30 years ago)

5. Magma - Kobaia ( you can't have a top 10 albums for a prog newbie without including Magma... probably the most unique band in prog and once they hear them.. they'll be hooked. .and as I posted in my review.. THIS is the album for the newbie)

6. Genesis - Selling England by the Pound (as much as I hate giving this band props.. this album was one song short of absolute perfection.. and a prog newbie probably has little clue that Genesis existed before stinking up the 80's)

7. Mars Volta - Deloused in the Crematorium ( I do not care for the album... but agree with Raff and others... this group is the future of prog.  Prog without a doubt...  completely progressive and forging a progressive sound.. again.. not ripping off others)

8. Osanna - Palepoli ( call me a homer... but I'd bet everything I own.. that if Osanna were from England.. all the blinkered fans who equate prog with England would be sh*tting their pants over the album. It's that good.. that prog.. that progressive.. and it doesn't hurt that it rocks harder than any of the stuff in Prog Metal)

9. Opeth - Ghost Reveries ( a prog metal album so good.. even those who have made an internet career throwing sh*t at prog-metal ... love it to death. )

10.  Can -Tago Mago  (make a top 10 list without Can...  and you should be demoted to prog newbie yourself. Not my favorite from them.. but this one is the most essential.  The Krautrock starter) 
 
7. Mars Volta - Deloused in the Crematorium ( I do not care for the album... but agree with Raff and others... this group is the future of prog.  Prog without a doubt...  completely progressive and forging a progressive sound.. again.. not ripping off others)
 
First, if as you said above Mars Volta is the future of prog, I must stop listen to prog and begin to colect stamps. Why everybody praise this band so much like Porcupine, two bands very overrated in my opinion, there are hundreds of new bands that sound mileas away good than this two. Second here is my top ten for you not in this order necesarly
 
1.Genesis - Trick of the tail - 1976
2. Renaissance - anything from Prologue to Azure d'or is recommended
3.Gentle Giant - The power and the glory - 1974
4.Pagan's Mind - Celestia entrance - 2002
5.Jethro Tull - Songs from the wood - 1977
6.Marillion - Misplaced chillhood - 1985
7.Uriah Heep - Demons and wizards - 1972
8.Iq - The wake - 1985
9.Nektar - Recycled - 1976
10.ELP - Tarkus - 1971
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1. Selling England by the Pound
2. Fragile
3. Meddle
4. Space Shanty
5. Damnation
6. Second Life Syndrome 
7. One Size Fits All
8. Octopus
9. Traced In Air
10. Si on Avait....
 
 
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Brave - Marillion
In Absentia - Porcupine Tree
Out Of Myself - Riverside
Clutching At Straws - Marillion
Vigil In The Wilderness Of Mirrors - Fish
Round Midnight - Moongarden
Damnation - Opeth
Empire - Queensryche
Fate Of A Dreamer - Ambeon
01011001 - Ayreon
 
 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 22 2009 at 18:40
Originally posted by b_olariu b_olariu wrote:

First, if as you said above Mars Volta is the future of prog, I must stop listen to prog and begin to colect stamps. Why everybody praise this band so much like Porcupine, two bands very overrated in my opinion, there are hundreds of new bands that sound mileas away good than this two. Second here is my top ten for you not in this order necesarly
 


As usual, 'overrated' here means 'I don't like it'Confused.... Personally, I find those Prog-Metal bands you listen to not only anything but progressive, but extremely boring and repetitive as well, but don't go posting this every time I get the opportunity. You don't like TMV? Fine - I happen to love them, but I realize they are not everyone's cup of tea. However, I can see the difference between something I don't like and something that is not progressive.
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why is it recently, whenever and wherever I see this name I see a post or posts that are annoying and irritating?


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I need to post more...  someone has stolen my crown of annoyance and irratation...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 22 2009 at 19:32
In fact, I wonder if I shouldn't choose the albums I found and/or heard/listened at my father's? In this case, the list would be the following path of initiation:

1) Mike Oldfield - Tubular Bells
2) Yes - Close to the Edge
3) Rick Wakeman - Journey to the Center of the Earth (remember, I talked about initiation)
4) Frank Zappa - Sheik Yerbouti / Joe's Garage (I spend a whole summer only listening to these tapes)
5) Emerson, Lake and Palmer - The Best of...
6) Eno, Moebelius & Roedelius - After The Heat
7) Mike Oldfield - Crises
8) Alan Parsons (no title, it was a home-made anthology)
9) Kraftwerk - Trans-Europe Express
10) A global atmosphere including songs by Pink Floyd, Pat Metheny, Jean-Luc Ponty...

Please, note that it's more or less the steps of my discovery of progressive music. I won't say it's the path to follow, I just say it was how I discovered the genre.
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01. Pink Floyd - Dark Side of the Moon
02. Genesis - The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway
03. ELP -Trilogy
04. Rush - Permanent Waves
05. Supertramp - Cryme of the Century
06. Jethro Tull - Aqualung
07. King Crimson - In the Court of the Crimson King
08. Kansas - Leftoverture
09. Yes - Fragile
10. Dream Theater - Scenes From A Memory - Metropolis Part II


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