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Dan Bobrowski
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Joined: February 02 2004
Location: United States
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Posted: October 14 2004 at 10:46 |
With ownership, comes responsibility.
The reason for the 2nd amendment is to allow civilians to form a militia if the government became a dictatorship. Whoever controls the military could then control the populace.
Sure, the 2nd amendment gets taken to extremes. Many people who own guns, shouldn't be allowed to and many types of weapons should not be privately owned.
Personally, I'd rather have weapons only in the hands of those who are sworn to protect....
Edited by danbo
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emdiar
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Joined: June 05 2004
Location: Netherlands
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Points: 890
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Posted: October 14 2004 at 10:30 |
Meanwhile a 12yr old girl in Dallas picks up a hand gun and shoots her mother in the face, stone dead, as she sleeps. All because she didn't like being grounded. If gun ownership is a freedom, it's a freedom I could frankly do without!
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Perception is truth, ergo opinion is fact.
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penguindf12
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Joined: September 20 2004
Location: United States
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Points: 831
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Posted: October 14 2004 at 08:22 |
Actually, you're probably right... from what I've heard about Chicago, you need all the weapons you can get!
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gdub411
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Joined: August 24 2004
Location: United States
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Points: 3484
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Posted: October 14 2004 at 00:05 |
penguindf12 wrote:
You should be able to have firearms, but nothing above what is reasonable. Flamethrowers, bazookas, machine guns, uzis, and the like are right out. I really don't mess with guns anyway, and I don't have problems with criminals with guns, so...yeah. I guess it's okay to have a gun or two, if you must have one.
(save me Reed Lover!...succumbing...to...republican...values......ackk.... ......)
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You mean you would object to my stockpile of AK-47's?You never know when I might have to use one on a ferocious possum here in the harsh wilderness of chicagoland.
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penguindf12
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Joined: September 20 2004
Location: United States
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Points: 831
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Posted: October 13 2004 at 23:00 |
You should be able to have firearms, but nothing above what is reasonable. Flamethrowers, bazookas, machine guns, uzis, and the like are right out. I really don't mess with guns anyway, and I don't have problems with criminals with guns, so...yeah. I guess it's okay to have a gun or two, if you must have one.
(save me Reed Lover!...succumbing...to...republican...values......ackk.... ......)
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Garion81
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Joined: May 22 2004
Location: So Cal, USA
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Posted: October 13 2004 at 17:31 |
Paradox wrote:
What is your opinion on this fundamental constitutional right? If you ammend the bill to remove this right, a ship load of english troops will arrive on your doorstep. do you really want that? Discuss. |
It isn't just this amendment but if you get around one right how soon will they all fall? The left wing broaches this one to get it removed the right goes after free speech and search and seizure. Either way all Constituional rights need to be protected. As for guns themselves I don't own one but what scares me more is George Bush or John Kerry owning all of them.
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Paradox
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Joined: October 07 2004
Location: England
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Points: 1059
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Posted: October 13 2004 at 16:04 |
well said. i think its a bit dissapointing over here in the UK where you cant even own a replica musket. Although, overall, i think its the best way.
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gdub411
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Joined: August 24 2004
Location: United States
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Points: 3484
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Posted: October 13 2004 at 16:02 |
I am all for the 2nd ammendment. Every american has a right to protect him/her- self.
Gun laws only take weapons away from the law abiding good guys. The bad guys don't obey the law and will find guns illegally.
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Paradox
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Joined: October 07 2004
Location: England
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Posted: October 13 2004 at 15:57 |
What is your opinion on this fundamental constitutional right? If you ammend the bill to remove this right, a ship load of english troops will arrive on your doorstep. do you really want that? Discuss.
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