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    Posted: August 28 2009 at 13:43
If a friend tells you that he's interested in progressive music and wants ten albums to get introduced to the genre, what would you give them?

01. Pink Floyd - "Dark Side of the Moon"
02. Yes - "Close to the Edge"
03. King Crimson - "In the Court of the Crimson King"
04. Rush - "Moving Pictures"
05. Supertramp - "Breakfast in America"
06. Jethro Tull - "Thick as a Brick"
07. Porcupine Tree - "In Absentia"
08. Dream Theater - "Scenes From A Memory Metropolis Part II"
09. The Mars Volta - "De-Loused in the Comatorium"
10. Opeth - "Blackwater Park"
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 28 2009 at 13:49
The first six you mentioned, plus:

07. Crucis- Crucis/Los Delirios del Mariscal
08. King Crimson- Discipline
09. Marillion- Misplaced Childhood
10. Genesis- Selling England by the Pound
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 28 2009 at 15:53
01. Yes - Close To The Edge
02. King Crimson - Lizard
03. Genesis - Nursery Cryme
04. Jethro Tull - nearly any anthology
05. Emerson, Lake and Palmer - Trilogy
06. Frank Zappa - Sheik Yerbouti
07. Roxy Music - Roxy Music
08. Magma - Attahk
09. This Heat - Deceit
10. Univers Zéro - 1313

But that's a just personal opinion...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 28 2009 at 16:34
It totally depends where they're at, if they're interested in prog, they've probably already heard some and liked it. You go from there. The staple entry points are not necessarily the big albums. I would hand a beginner Fragile or the Yes Album before CTTE. Similarly, Aqualung is a much better entry album than TAAB, and SEBtP better than Foxtrot and especially the Lamb.
 
Damnation, Awake, Second Life Syndrome, Crack the Skye are excellent metal entry points. In Abstentia is not a bad example of modern prog.
 
The old schtick of giving Univers Zero and Magma to newbies....I guess it's still funny.
 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 28 2009 at 16:59
Originally posted by Negoba Negoba wrote:

The old schtick of giving Univers Zero and Magma to newbies....I guess it's still funny.


Well, my father told me once that I would enjoy Magma: I was a 15 year-old metalhead. And I think Henry Cow or Art Zoyd are much harder to get into than Magma and UZ (of course, I won't even talk about giving Kluster to a newbie).
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 28 2009 at 17:09
King Crimson - In the Court of the Crimson King
Yes - The Yes Album
Genesis - Foxtrot
Frank Zappa - Hot Rats
Black Sabbath - Black Sabbath
Jethro Tull - Stand Up
Gentle Giant - Octopus
Miles Davis - Bitches Brew
Ozric Tentacles - Pungent Effulgent
Camel - Mirage
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 28 2009 at 17:10
in no particular order

Genesis 'Selling England by the pound'
Yes 'Close to the Edge'
Marillion 'Misplaced Childhood'
ELP 'Brain Salad Surgery'
Frank Zappa 'One size fits all'
Pink Floyd 'Dark side of the moon'
Dream Theatrer 'Images and Words'
The Flower Kings 'Unfold the future'
The Enid 'Aerie Fairie Nonsense'
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 28 2009 at 17:16
Tarkus
The Yes Album
Meddle
Larks' Tongues in Aspic
Pictures at an Exhibition
Birds of Fire
Crossings
Hemispheres
Octopus
Thick as a Brick


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 28 2009 at 17:23
Hmmm.... in retrospect my 10 would need to include some Rush - how could I have left them out...

For a totalnewbie it would be Moving Picture, for some a bit more clued-up probably A Farewell to Kings Smile
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 28 2009 at 18:10
Originally posted by The Switch Blade The Switch Blade wrote:

If a friend tells you that he's interested in progressive music and wants ten albums to get introduced to the genre, what would you give them?

01. Pink Floyd - "Dark Side of the Moon"
02. Yes - "Close to the Edge"
03. King Crimson - "In the Court of the Crimson King"
04. Rush - "Moving Pictures"
05. Supertramp - "Breakfast in America"
06. Jethro Tull - "Thick as a Brick"
07. Porcupine Tree - "In Absentia"
08. Dream Theater - "Scenes From A Memory Metropolis Part II"
09. The Mars Volta - "De-Loused in the Comatorium"
10. Opeth - "Blackwater Park"


interesting.... but too anglo-centric... PT has no place there..  what is 'progressive' about them.  We can kick the decayed corpse of DT and ask just what is progressive about them... they have been making the same album for 10 years hahha.  Complex music doesn't make it prog.. much less progressive.

I'd spread the wealth... if they are into 'progressive music'  where is the vast wealth of music from Germany.


again though... progressive v. prog... a shame the two don't mean the same.   They should...  but someone had to genrify  prog and make complex synonymous with progressive.   What bunch of sh*t that is hahha.


I'll take a stab of course....

1. Yes - Tales from Topographic Oceans ( all bases are covered.. and  the shear scope of the album has never been approached.  Bands are too worried about pleasing fans.. and selling albums see DT)

2. ELP - Pictures at an Exhibition  (debatable if it was a successful attempt to merge classical with rock music.  But it is the one to start with.... )

3. Tangerine Dream - Phaedra (teach our young prog newbie early on that you don't have to be English.. or rock the house ... to be prog.. or progressive)

4.  Radiohead - OK Computer ( modern prog...  which was progessive... prog.. and just as importantly.. not ripping off what others did best 30 years ago)

5. Magma - Kobaia ( you can't have a top 10 albums for a prog newbie without including Magma... probably the most unique band in prog and once they hear them.. they'll be hooked. .and as I posted in my review.. THIS is the album for the newbie)

6. Genesis - Selling England by the Pound (as much as I hate giving this band props.. this album was one song short of absolute perfection.. and a prog newbie probably has little clue that Genesis existed before stinking up the 80's)

7. Mars Volta - Deloused in the Crematorium ( I do not care for the album... but agree with Raff and others... this group is the future of prog.  Prog without a doubt...  completely progressive and forging a progressive sound.. again.. not ripping off others)

8. Osanna - Palepoli ( call me a homer... but I'd bet everything I own.. that if Osanna were from England.. all the blinkered fans who equate prog with England would be sh*tting their pants over the album. It's that good.. that prog.. that progressive.. and it doesn't hurt that it rocks harder than any of the stuff in Prog Metal)

9. Opeth - Ghost Reveries ( a prog metal album so good.. even those who have made an internet career throwing sh*t at prog-metal ... love it to death. )

10.  Can -Tago Mago  (make a top 10 list without Can...  and you should be demoted to prog newbie yourself. Not my favorite from them.. but this one is the most essential.  The Krautrock starter) 


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 28 2009 at 18:32
Why not?
 
1. Genesis - Selling England by the Pound
2. Van Der Graaf Generator - Godbluff
3. Marillion - Clutching At Straws
4. Pink Floyd - Meddle
5. Caravan - In The Land Of Grey and Pink
6. Rush - A Farewell to Kings
7. Jethro Tull - Thick As A Brick
8. Gentle Giant - The Power and the Glory
9. King Crimson - Red
10. And for something newer - The Tangent - A Place In The Queue
 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 28 2009 at 18:46
10- Le Orme's Uomo di Pezza
9- Änglagård's Hybris
9- Univers Zero's Hérésie
8- Caravan's In the Land of Grey and Pink
8- Miles Davis' Bitches Brew
7- Genesis' Selling England by the Pound
7- Frank Zappa's Hot Rats
6- Dün - Eros
5- Jethro Tull's Thick as a Brick
4- Van Der Graaf Generator's Godbluff
4- Gentle Giant's Free Hand
3- Pink Floyd's Animals
2- Genesis' Foxtrot
1- Yes' Close to the Edge


Edited by Tsevir Leirbag - September 13 2009 at 14:48
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 28 2009 at 19:17
1. Marillion Brave
2. Genesis Selling England By The Pound
3. Transatlantic Bridge Across Forever
4. Dream Theater Scenes From A Memory
5. Kansas Leftoverture
6. Camel The Snowgoose
7. Yes Close To The Edge
8. The Flower Kings Paradox Hotel
9. Spock's Beard Snow
10. Riverside Anno Domini High Definition

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 28 2009 at 19:25
1. YES - Relayer
2. Genesis - Nursery Cryme
3. YES - Close To The Edge
4. Porcupine Tree - IN ABSENTIA
5. Peter Gabriel - UP
6. Marillion - Marbles
7. Marillion - Clutching At Straws
8. Jethro Tull - Thick As A Brick
9. Porcupine Tree - Lightbulb Sun
10. Pink Floyd - Dark Side Of The Moon
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 28 2009 at 19:48
Originally posted by progkidjoel progkidjoel wrote:

1. YES - Relayer
2. Genesis - Nursery Cryme
3. YES - Close To The Edge
4. Porcupine Tree - IN ABSENTIA
5. Peter Gabriel - UP
6. Marillion - Marbles
7. Marillion - Clutching At Straws
8. Jethro Tull - Thick As A Brick
9. Porcupine Tree - Lightbulb Sun
10. Pink Floyd - Dark Side Of The Moon
 
Weird list. Two Marillion, two Porcupine Tree, Peter Gabriel?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 28 2009 at 20:00
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^^Indeed, two of each... I chose the two Marillion albums as they're the two most accessible of the FISH and H era, and the same goes for the two Porcupine Tree albums...

...And I just love Peter Gabriel
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 28 2009 at 20:08
Originally posted by progkidjoel progkidjoel wrote:

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^^Indeed, two of each... I chose the two Marillion albums as they're the two most accessible of the FISH and H era, and the same goes for the two Porcupine Tree albums...

...And I just love Peter Gabriel
 
I also love Peter Gabriel! (with Genesis Wink)
As for Porcupine Tree, they're one of the greatest actual prog bands but two of theirs (In Absentia, I agree, but Lightbulb Sun. you should've put FOABP instead), I dont know. Same for Marillion. I'd have put only th Fish-era album Smile


Edited by Tsevir Leirbag - August 28 2009 at 20:10
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 28 2009 at 20:12
this is hard!

Yes - Fragile
Genesis - Selling England
KC - In the Court
ELP - s/t
Hatfield and the North - s/t
Gentle Giant - Octopus
Amon Duul II - Yeti
Area - Arbeit Macht Frei
RTF - Romantic Warrior
SMM - Maltid

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 28 2009 at 20:16
Originally posted by Tsevir Leirbag Tsevir Leirbag wrote:

Originally posted by progkidjoel progkidjoel wrote:

^^ ^^Indeed, two of each... I chose the two Marillion albums as they're the two most accessible of the FISH and H era, and the same goes for the two Porcupine Tree albums... ...And I just love Peter Gabriel

 

I also love Peter Gabriel! (with Genesis Wink)

As for Porcupine Tree, they're one of the greatest actual prog bands but two of theirs (In Absentia, I agree, but Lightbulb Sun. you should've put FOABP instead), I dont know. Same for Marillion. I'd have put only th Fish-era album Smile


Fair enough...

But not on FOABP - I can't really see anything amazing in FOABP, other than the last 6 minutes of ANESTHETIZE and SENTIMENTAL aswell...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 28 2009 at 20:36
Originally posted by progkidjoel progkidjoel wrote:

Originally posted by Tsevir Leirbag Tsevir Leirbag wrote:

Originally posted by progkidjoel progkidjoel wrote:

^^ ^^Indeed, two of each... I chose the two Marillion albums as they're the two most accessible of the FISH and H era, and the same goes for the two Porcupine Tree albums... ...And I just love Peter Gabriel

 

I also love Peter Gabriel! (with Genesis Wink)

As for Porcupine Tree, they're one of the greatest actual prog bands but two of theirs (In Absentia, I agree, but Lightbulb Sun. you should've put FOABP instead), I dont know. Same for Marillion. I'd have put only th Fish-era album Smile


Fair enough...

But not on FOABP - I can't really see anything amazing in FOABP, other than the last 6 minutes of ANESTHETIZE and SENTIMENTAL aswell...
 
What about the Sky Moves Sideways then?
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