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    Posted: August 19 2009 at 21:22
I can't stand trying to be in a band with one of my friends! For one, his knowledge of music is EXTREMELY limited, to the point where he doesn't know chords and the names of them! He can only play power chords in drop D and do quick alternate pickings on a single string. Another thing is that he never tunes his guitar! He is in a metal band and the other guitarist and the bassist just tune to each other. He sent me a tape so I could play keyboards along with him in his band, and all the songs were in the same key! (Bb minor if you must know). After I had practiced them all over the weekend I came to school the next day, all his songs were suddenly in C minor, after my muscle memory had all set in. I tried being in a band with him the other day, and I said we should make a parody song of children's music with blasts of metal, and all he could do was simple minor key arpeggios on the top string. Not a major chord was played that day! Then I told him to blast into an extreme metal riff, and he goes into simple metalcore breakdown chugging. From the lack of theory knowledge to his clueless songwriting methods, I've decided there's nobody in the school I want to be in a band with.
 
Does anybody else have any atrocious stories? Egotistical guitar players? Drummers with no sense of tempo? Musicians who can't sing in the right key? Share!
 
(sorry if it's too negative for some people, this seemed like the right spot for this kind of rant)

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 19 2009 at 22:37
I'm not sure I got half of what you said there, but how about a story regarding a bad crowd?

I had the flu not too long ago when I played lead guitar in a country / pop band full of middle aged folks still trying to make it big playing covers note for note in seedy bars.

This one particular bar was in the back of a liquor store.  It was that bad.  Over midway through the four hour set, a Hispanic guy, drunk as ever, staggered on stage and grabbed the mic and began singing a Capella in Spanish (or what I assume was Spanish) and slobbering.  A pasty 500 pound woman could not keep her hooters out of view.  The drummer and keyboardist kept demanding my amp be louder while the singer kept demanding my amp be quieter.

Good money though.  Big smile
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 20 2009 at 10:32
My biggest pet peeve when playing with other musicians is, well... people who don't know how to play with other musicians.
 
I've played with a lot of really great guitar players who learned by playing alone in their room, and as a consequence they don't have a clue how to react and be flexible in a band situation.  They expect being in a band to be like playing along with a CD.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 20 2009 at 10:48
I used to work with a drummer who didn't seem too familiar with the term 'groove' or 'steady pulse'. He overpowered the rest of the band with ease, utilising one chaotic, incoherent, senseless and indulgent fill after the next. I don't think that I've ever heard that guy play at an even tempo, and time signatures really didn't enter the equation at all. Oh well, he decided in the end that we weren't moving in the 'same direction'.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 21 2009 at 04:30
I was actually in the world's first punk band in 1973!
 
Well, it wasn't intentional but none of us could play our instruments at the time and so that's all we could come up with. Sounds quite authentic, I still have some recordings we made with a casette machine.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 21 2009 at 05:43

My only live gig experience was way back in the early 70s - we only played one song, which we rehearsed for some time before the performance - Bob Dylan's "Mr Tambourine Man" - and in rehearsals it sounded okay with the singer doing a fair rendition of an English Dylan, complete with nasal intonation. Come the gig he decides to sing it falceto like a comic parody of the Byrds in a key and tempo of his own devising. I looked across to the drummer who was close to tears (I think of laughter) as he tried to match the singer's tempo, while I tried to keep up strumming along in the only key I knew.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 21 2009 at 06:55
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 21 2009 at 07:21
LOL I actually still play with that guy. He doesn“t sing(Wink) anymore though. Plays the synth.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 21 2009 at 14:40
That's some pretty heavy sh*t UMUR!  Why am i not surprised.LOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 21 2009 at 14:49
Originally posted by npjnpj npjnpj wrote:

I was actually in the world's first punk band in 1973!
 
Well, it wasn't intentional but none of us could play our instruments at the time and so that's all we could come up with. Sounds quite authentic, I still have some recordings we made with a casette machine.


See, now, that's something I wanna hear!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 21 2009 at 14:59

I have had several terrible moments on stage where I was just stuck up there out of tune. Trying to retune in the middle of a song, bend the strings into tune, play power chords on the remain in tune strings. Back in the day of floating tremolos and before I had an electronic tuner and spares readily available, yuck....

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 21 2009 at 15:01
^  guitars...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 21 2009 at 15:14
Yep, tried to play with a drummer who were constantly out of the simple 4/4 beat. It was like he played in 31/32 or 17/16 without even knowing it.
And then he accused me for playing off-beat LOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 21 2009 at 17:18
Yeah I have one...

Used to be in a cover-rock banf with my best friends, the biggest mistake I've ever done... Used to be lead singer, until the rythm guitarist took my place and they didn't even tell me because they were afraid I was gonna get angry... lol, I got angrier because I got informed by other friends that the band was still going without me...

The most ilogical thing that happened was that the other 2 guys from the band which were friends of mine got quite seperated from me, while the rythm guitarist who took my place, is even a "bigger" friend of mine than he was before.... Still have some anger to him, unfortunately, but he's still one of my most dearest friends...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 21 2009 at 19:09

^I was in a band where that happened too. Sucks, don't it?


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 21 2009 at 19:13
^hell yeah Cry
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 21 2009 at 19:55
I was in an extreme metal band with some of the "popular kids" at my school, and that was one hell of a mistake. The drummer was excellent, and as a matter of fact so were the other 3 members. My one friend asked me since he knew I was a huge music fan, so I said why not. It worked out really well... until I told them that my best instrument is keyboards. I'm a self-taught guitarist and I know the bare minimum on that instrument. I was also the lead singer. I have a pretty good death growl, and a decent voice. They made me play the guitar, which was fine, but it just got worse. I'm a fairly decent songwriter, but I got a whole ton of crap for writing 15 minute songs with not enough heavy parts, and it became clear I wasn't liking this band. So after spending day after day writing music for them, I just figured I'd quit because it wasn't for me. Currently I'm in a much better jazz fusion improv band with me on keys and guitar, my friend on sax, another friend on drums, and some kid who never talks on bass (but he can sure rip!). I use most of the music from the short-lived metal project on my solo instrumental concept album, that I hope to get on PA when it's done.

And I also play Zeppelin and Beatles tunes with my best friend for fun. I've had quite the musical experience for a teenager!LOL

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 22 2009 at 12:28
I was the bad experience in every band I played with.
I played in a thrash-metal band and was sacked four months later for I had a bad sense of rhythm.  Listening to our demo, it's still the drums part which disturbs me. Oh, and I was asked to play triolets out of time... Go figure.

I played in an electro-rock band and left them two months after, but for extra-musical reasons. The guitarist couldn't play and look to the leader of said band (she was in love and all that stupidity, so she claimed she couldn't concentrate on her guitar...)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 26 2009 at 13:46
topofsm, I know exactly what you're saying. I've had a very similar experience. The problem with those people is that they're oblivious to their lack of knowing anything about music. Keys are non-existent, timing and rhythm are nowhere to be found... It's weird that people like that all play metal... Or think that they do.
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