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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote 1800iareyay Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 14 2009 at 21:36
Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

^Much more than those you mention, I like:
- Space Cowboys; very light and fun. One of those movies I have to see when they're showing it on tv
 

I don't even know what to say to this.

Top 5 Eastwood directed films:

1. Letters From Iwo Jima
2. The Outlaw Josey Wales
3. High Plains Drifter
4. Bird
5. Unforgiven

Gran Torino is a film I should hate: it's dull, horribly acted (and in an Eastwood movie, no less! He gets the best from his actors!), and so transparent and heavy-handed I could wretch. But it's also Eastwood's way of tearing down the Dirty Harry mythos just as Unforgiven did The Man With No Name. And Eastwood is so magnetic. It's really a bad film that, like so many American features, slips into stereotypes to make a commentary about racism without doing anything to subvert them, and the Christ imagery at the end is about as subtle as the rat scurrying across the windowsill in The Departed. But like The Departed, I love it for its flaws because of a solid cast and some wit. Unlike The Departed, I think it lacks any replayability (it's one of Scorsese's weakest films in terms of character, but damned if it isn't his most fun).

Touch of Evil - Now here's racism in American films done right. Welles' playfulness, wordplay and general dark wit allow him to play up the camp of noir and ethnic stereotypes even as he humanizes not a few central characters but all of his grotesque creations. Much has been written of Welles' martyrdom, but Touch of Evil is the ray of hope, as historians and editors (they actually got audio/editing genius Walter Murch to help) re-cut the film according to a detailed memo Welles sent to Universal after they took control away from him and butchered the film (the memo itself is an invaluable look into Welles' creative process). The restored result is equal parts '50s Universal B-movie and Wellesian character study. Its combination of masterful formalist composition (particularly in the Renoir-inspired deep focus photography and long tracking shots) and the hand-held docudrama feel that the low budget forced upon the director sets up the dichotomy well: this isn't a thriller with a message, it's a politcally revelent arthouse picture with moments of suspense worthy of Hitchcock.

It should be noted, actually, that Hitchcock borrowed liberally from the film to make his own Psycho. Both feature Janet Leigh, specifically Janet Leigh in a motel suffering horrors. As I watched Dennis Weaver's skittish, sexually repressed "night man" stammer his way through conversations with Leigh, I thought of how much I'd love to see a film just about him (the same can be said of most of the film's characters, so interesting and well-defined are they), only to realize that I did: this nervous bellboy became Norman Bates but two years later. Hitchcock even tried to outdo Welles' opening tracking shot, but you can clearly see different takes in Hitchcock's still impressive helicopter dolly shot that opens Psycho.

Touch of Evil was filmed shortly after the Supreme Court ruled on Brown v. Board of Education, a ruling many Southern policemen refused to enforce. Welles re-wrote the script upon being hired as a director (thanks to Heston, who rightly saw that the opportunity to work with such a talent would likely never present itself again), and his lines contain several explicit mentions of his idea of the role of the lawmen ("A policeman's job is to enforce the law, not write it"). But Welles do not deal in simple black and whites, or even simple noir grays. The reveal that Quinlan lost his wife to a "half-breed" strangler is a typical Hollywood rationing and lessening of a character's racism, but we can see that Quinlan's prejudice runs far deeper, that his racism in endemic of a racist society. The real humanizing elements of his character are his interactions with a gypsy madam who may be an old flame. Vargas, on the other hand, is no simple hero: he neglects his wife, indirectly places her in harmful situations, and turns to illegal evidence of his own to expose Quinlan's fraud. Welles does not play up Vargas' fascistic machismo in the name of "gettin' the job done", nor does he forgive Quinlan for his own tyranny: there's the uneasy note at the end that Vargas is the next spiral of the cycle that begat Quinlan.

Touch of Evil has been called the last film of noir's golden age, but it's so much more than that. Great and important as noir was, it hadn't featured this kind of depth since Fritz Lang invented the genre with pictures like Dr. Mabuse or M, which revolve around commentaries of Weimar Germany and the rise of Nazis. Even its edited versions are triumphs, but the restoration is a balls-out masterpiece, a Citizen Kane of genre films.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Henry Plainview Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 14 2009 at 21:44
But the important question is whether or not you thought Dirty Harry was a good movie. Because I am not seeing how anyone thought it was a good movie.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote GaryB Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 15 2009 at 00:22
I don't remember how many movies there where in the Dirty Harry series. I think there were at least four and I think Dead Pool was the last one (I have a 44 magnum like the one he used in the movies. It has an odd length barrel and is actually called the Dirty Harry model).  The movies are dated with lots of polyester and wide flowered ties and Beatle boots but they were good back then.
Some other early Eastwood movies that I liked:
Coogan's Bluff
The Gauntlet
Play Misty For Me
Kelly's Heros
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Last week I finally saw Public Enemies. I went in expecting basically Heat: Rocks the 1930s and... well, it's more of a character study of John Dillinger than a police procedural. He's portrayed as someone who set himself up as a vaguely Robin Hood-like figure (hey, his girlfriend's even played by an actress named Marion) or at least an outlaw champion of the American Dream without really being that much. Okay, yeah, that makes Johnny Depp's portrayal of Dillinger a bit like how Robert DeNiro's character in Heat was like a more realistic version of the "gentleman thief" cliché but it's clear that Dillinger is supposed to stand for something much more than that and meant to be some kind of deconstructed or at least de-romanticized 20th century mythological figure. (the stylized yet ultra-realistic visual style adds to this) It'd probably make a terrific double bill with that Jesse James movie Brad Pitt starred in a couple years go. Public Enemies being Michael Mann, the movie's subtle about all that so it mostly doesn't drag the subtext up to text... and there's much more subtext than that, like its suggestion that the FBI's hunt for organized crime during the Depression was the origin of Cold War paranoia. However, the score is a bit ill-fitting at times (jangly electric guitar rock in a movie set in 1933?) and there's also quite a few overtly sentimental moments that just stick out like a sore thumb in an otherwise realistic movie. 8.5/10
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Burn After Reading    Decent entry from the Coen Bros., funny and twisted but kinda falls apart by the end.  Good, could've been better.








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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Atavachron Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 20 2009 at 06:04
 ^^^^ Touch of Evil is extraordinary, saw the restoration years back in a theater, one of the great American noirs

Dirty Harry ?  Still a decent flick, Andy Robinson chilling as the killer but yeah, it hasn't really held up, Magnum Force much better, The Enforcer is meh and the last two were just terrible.. The Gauntlet still holds up well though not a Dirty Harry film


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote crimhead Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 27 2009 at 00:20
The Devil's Rejects(2005) - Watched in on IFC tonight. Not a bad movie. Better than the prequel to it. Not as gory as I thought that it was going to be. 6.75/10. 
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I've been rounding out my Coen brothers collection and recently picked up Raising Arizona, O Brother Where Art Thou?, and Burn After Reading (for some reason I never knew that Frances McDormand was married to one of the brothers).
Arizona was a little slow, O Brother was entertaining and Burn had an excellent cast. I enjoyed the characters played by Clooney, Malcovich and Pitt.
 
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Every so often I will put on The Gauntlet for one more viewing. I think it's the first movie he made with that blond chick that he was with for years. It has a good story line and even had Las Vegas betting on whether or not he makes it.
Coogan's Bluff was an interesting "modern day western sheriff goes to the big city to get his man" type of movie. I think the TV show McCloud with Dennis Weaver was loosely based on Eastwood's character.
Kelly's Heros was a WWII comedy / action movie about a bunch of GIs that go behind enemy lines to steal Nazi gold from a bank in a small town. There was also Telly Savales, Don Rickles and Donald Sutherland. Sutherland's character "Oddball" stole every scene he was in.
Coogan's Bluff and Kelly's heros are my two favorite "Lesser known" Eastwood movies.
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Has anybody seen the new Tarantino film yet? I'm really looking forward to it.. Some comments?
 
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Don't know about the new Tarantino yet, but the new District 9 movie just $/%?! me! Didnt expect this. Awesome.
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Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

Has anybody seen the new Tarantino film yet? I'm really looking forward to it.. Some comments?
 
I thought it was his best since Pulp Fiction, probably. Great performances and really god dialog naturally, and I loved how it all unfolded. It's hilariously revisionist and amoral, with the biggest don't-give-a-f**k attitude I've seen in awhile. My friend said it's basically the American counterpart to a Nazi propaganda movie the film centers around. Most laughs in it are macabre, coming more from "he's not going to really show that is he--OH GOD HE DID!" moments than anything else. I liked it a lot. Europeans, as Cannes, showed, might not.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Drew Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 30 2009 at 22:57
Inglorious Basterds    A
Amazingly Violent, Intense, and Funny
 
 
And quite possibly the best scene from any movie in HISTORY.
 
 
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Porco Rosso - was a good movie, consistently fun, but not quite at the level of, say, Spirited Away or Howl's Moving Castle or Castle in the Sky or Princess Mononoke.  I'd say Porco would get somewhere around a 7 or 8 of 10 whereas most of the others would probably get 9s and 10s.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Atavachron Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 31 2009 at 02:07
re-watched Star Trek Generations  ..p-u, those films became indistinguishable from the Next Gen TV show

also Cable Guy which doesn't quite hold up, I'd forgotten it's a Ben Stiller movie who would've been better in the role than Jim Carrey


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I'm watching Evil Brain from Outer Space. Amazing so far. LOL
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District 9, eh 6.5
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Atavachron Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 05 2009 at 03:51
Freddy Got Fingered     I was a huge fan of the old Tom Green Show on MTV and though his movie has flashes of hilarity, it is largely vapid, toilet-humored and aimless.  Those qualities were of coursed prized on his show which at the time was refreshingly childish and irreverent.  But two straight hours of it doesn't quite work.  Rip Torn is typically brilliant as the dad and there's a great opening skateboard scene.  Fun but a slight letdown for his fans.

 


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote A Person Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 09 2009 at 17:38
I watched most of The Secret of NIMH on Hulu today, mostly because I had nothing to do and because it was free LOL. I vaguely remember watching it when I was younger, and it is amazing how children's movies have changed. It wasn't the best movie I've ever seen, but it is easily better than most of the new movies that are made nowadays.
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I don't come on PA to discuss movies really

But I will just say that I saw 'District 9' this evening.

It was amazing. Totally surprised me. One of the best sci-fi movies in recent years
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