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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 07 2009 at 21:13

Well Lan, I listen to pop music by choice. We're a rare breed these days since the more intelligent music community has by and large shunned pop music, but some of us are both musically inclined and appreciate pop. For example, the people who make pop! Sometimes the writer isn't the person you see on the cover, but with te internet you can easily discover who writes all the music. My favorite is Max Martin, who became famous for writing the smash hit "Hit me baby one more time" but is essentially the man responsible for 1/3 of the top hits in the 90's. I also love the beatles, madonna, shakira, and micheal jackson, and don't you dare tell me the beatles are different because they are shamelessly pop! 

Anyways, most of the music I write is in the style of rock, and since 4/4 is the basic rhythm of rock, that is what sounds most natural when writing rock music. If I was writing indian sitar music, perhaps 11/8 would sound more natural. 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 07 2009 at 21:27
I wasn't aware there were any other sitars other than Indian ones? Wink  I couldn't help you with Indian time signatures, but I do know that I love Indian pop music way more than I do American pop music.   I won't dare tell you that the Beatles are different than Madonna, Shakira, or Michael Jackson, but I must tell you that when I read your sentence, I started vomiting uncontrollably. LOL  Oh No, now I've done it!  Someone's going to call me a Gnome, or a Troll or something now.   Oh Woe is Me!  Cry  I've been reduced to Dr. Zachary Smith!

Originally posted by Nuke Nuke wrote:

Well Lan, I listen to pop music by choice. We're a rare breed these days since the more intelligent music community has by and large shunned pop music, but some of us are both musically inclined and appreciate pop. For example, the people who make pop! Sometimes the writer isn't the person you see on the cover, but with te internet you can easily discover who writes all the music. My favorite is Max Martin, who became famous for writing the smash hit "Hit me baby one more time" but is essentially the man responsible for 1/3 of the top hits in the 90's. I also love the beatles, madonna, shakira, and micheal jackson, and don't you dare tell me the beatles are different because they are shamelessly pop! 

Anyways, most of the music I write is in the style of rock, and since 4/4 is the basic rhythm of rock, that is what sounds most natural when writing rock music. If I was writing indian sitar music, perhaps 11/8 would sound more natural. 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 08 2009 at 00:46

Well, with globalisation and everything, I'm sure you can get a pretty cheap sitar made in china. Wink

My personal favorite pop genres are latin, french, and US pop. I've never actually tried indian pop music, just that ravi shankar dude. What do you reccommend for good indian pop? My apologies for inducing vomit, make sure you wash up and brush your teeth! After all, pop music is like beer, the lowest common denominator, ridiculously enjoyable, and vomit causing. 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 08 2009 at 10:45
Originally posted by Blacksword Blacksword wrote:

Ha! I think their best album is 'A Trick of the Tail'

I respect your opinion...
but I still think your a bloody fool! LOL

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 08 2009 at 12:58
Originally posted by LanCaiHe LanCaiHe wrote:

I wasn't aware there were any other sitars other than Indian ones? Wink  I couldn't help you with Indian time signatures, but I do know that I love Indian pop music way more than I do American pop music.   I won't dare tell you that the Beatles are different than Madonna, Shakira, or Michael Jackson, but I must tell you that when I read your sentence, I started vomiting uncontrollably. LOL  Oh No, now I've done it!  Someone's going to call me a Gnome, or a Troll or something now.   Oh Woe is Me!  Cry  I've been reduced to Dr. Zachary Smith!

Originally posted by Nuke Nuke wrote:

Well Lan, I listen to pop music by choice. We're a rare breed these days since the more intelligent music community has by and large shunned pop music, but some of us are both musically inclined and appreciate pop. For example, the people who make pop! Sometimes the writer isn't the person you see on the cover, but with te internet you can easily discover who writes all the music. My favorite is Max Martin, who became famous for writing the smash hit "Hit me baby one more time" but is essentially the man responsible for 1/3 of the top hits in the 90's. I also love the beatles, madonna, shakira, and micheal jackson, and don't you dare tell me the beatles are different because they are shamelessly pop! 

Anyways, most of the music I write is in the style of rock, and since 4/4 is the basic rhythm of rock, that is what sounds most natural when writing rock music. If I was writing indian sitar music, perhaps 11/8 would sound more natural. 

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Indian Pop music is essentially traditional Indian music (eg bhangra) that has been westernised, usually by imposing a 4 to the floor beat over it.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 09 2009 at 20:15
Oh, my delicate back!  Penny! Penny! 

Seems that the majority of Indian pop I've been hearing is not traditional at all.  A lot of it even mimics Western pop stuff all too much.   The ones I like are the ones that sound typically Western, but every so often the melody line goes into some mode or raga sending my brain into an orgasmic rush!   It's totally unexpected, and I think that's why I like it.  They retain their own cultural identity while still doing a pop song in a western style.  They might impose 4/4 on it, but much of the time they even keep their own rhythms.   There are ones that are traditional Indian songs, but they use synths for the music and also traditional instruments mixed in.  I love these the very best!  It's like Indian New Age Jazz or something.    The Chinese however, lose their cultural identity when the do pop stuff.   It used to be that you'd here an Gu Zheng or Er Hu in the stuff, but seems like that's all gone now.  Crap, sorry, rambling.  Only had 3 hours sleep. Just played at that prog festival here.  Off to bed! Sleepy

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Originally posted by LanCaiHe LanCaiHe wrote:

I wasn't aware there were any other sitars other than Indian ones? Wink  I couldn't help you with Indian time signatures, but I do know that I love Indian pop music way more than I do American pop music.   I won't dare tell you that the Beatles are different than Madonna, Shakira, or Michael Jackson, but I must tell you that when I read your sentence, I started vomiting uncontrollably. LOL  Oh No, now I've done it!  Someone's going to call me a Gnome, or a Troll or something now.   Oh Woe is Me!  Cry  I've been reduced to Dr. Zachary Smith!

Originally posted by Nuke Nuke wrote:

Well Lan, I listen to pop music by choice. We're a rare breed these days since the more intelligent music community has by and large shunned pop music, but some of us are both musically inclined and appreciate pop. For example, the people who make pop! Sometimes the writer isn't the person you see on the cover, but with te internet you can easily discover who writes all the music. My favorite is Max Martin, who became famous for writing the smash hit "Hit me baby one more time" but is essentially the man responsible for 1/3 of the top hits in the 90's. I also love the beatles, madonna, shakira, and micheal jackson, and don't you dare tell me the beatles are different because they are shamelessly pop! 

Anyways, most of the music I write is in the style of rock, and since 4/4 is the basic rhythm of rock, that is what sounds most natural when writing rock music. If I was writing indian sitar music, perhaps 11/8 would sound more natural. 

Danger, Will Robinson! Danger!!
 
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Indian Pop music is essentially traditional Indian music (eg bhangra) that has been westernised, usually by imposing a 4 to the floor beat over it.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 09 2009 at 20:28
I wouldn't know what to recommend.  I listen to some radio shows here on public radio, but every time I try to remember a name of an artist I am usually in the car and wouldn't even know how to write it even if I had a pen. Cry  I know that there is a whole rainbow of Indian pop, from stuff that sounds just like ours, to all the way to the traditional Indian side.  Best thing is to find a radio station that plays it. 

Originally posted by Nuke Nuke wrote:

Well, with globalisation and everything, I'm sure you can get a pretty cheap sitar made in china. Wink

My personal favorite pop genres are latin, french, and US pop. I've never actually tried indian pop music, just that ravi shankar dude. What do you reccommend for good indian pop? My apologies for inducing vomit, make sure you wash up and brush your teeth! After all, pop music is like beer, the lowest common denominator, ridiculously enjoyable, and vomit causing. 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 09 2009 at 22:15
Oh well, I've got wikipedia and last.fm, so I'm sure I can find out some good indian pop.
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