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deafmoon
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Posted: July 27 2009 at 20:09 | |
John Entwistle.
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: July 27 2009 at 22:12 | |
John Entwistle Who? |
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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sleeper
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Posted: July 28 2009 at 13:29 | |
I keep seeing you an Jean mention him and I am interested, so what albums should I start with to get a good feel of what he can do? |
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BaldFriede
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Posted: July 28 2009 at 13:43 | |
Kraan's "Andy Nogger" would be a good start. And to get an impression of him watch the videos Jean posted:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SkYFRnsd0n4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGP9csyo-VQ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uljBW62cTK8 To which I'd like to add these videos of Kraan: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgZ9XvfMULU http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2v-bD8J_SCc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9qTFcNW-p4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmrA3wkbJV8 And definitely get the "Live 75" album of Kraan too. Edited by BaldFriede - July 28 2009 at 14:21 |
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cesar polo
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Posted: July 28 2009 at 17:03 | |
Chris Squire
Richard Sinclair
Roger Waters
Michael Rutherford
John Wetton
Doug Ferguson
Roger Glover
John Paul Jones
John Entwistle
Geddy Lee
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Evolver
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Posted: July 28 2009 at 17:20 | |
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Eetu Pellonpaa
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Posted: July 29 2009 at 11:15 | |
Some of my top favourites:
Eddie Gomez; I learned him from the ECM records, pleasant upright bass sound with bow and fingers, good romantic melodies and fine improviser
Jack Bruce; His live work in 60's Cream has mady great impression to me. Aggressive, spontaneous, melodic and cool. After listening this I learned there is no reason to fear when starting to play unplanned improvisations. His solo works have not sounded bad either and I like his singin voice too
John Wetton; IMO integral part of 72-74 KC sound, fine tones, great improvisational skills, aggressive and innovative style
Tony Levin; Another learned from KC, just ace technics, good soft sounds, real pro
Gary Thain; listened and learned my own playing from the early Heep albums, sad he had to walk his destructive paths
Geddy Lee; Rush records are so nice to listen just for his playing, though there are other values there too. When looking his 80's live performances, it's really impressive somebody can control so much at same time, play bass wonderfully, do synths in the middle, sing and operate sound pedals simultaneosly?
Chris Squire; I just love the classic hey day albums of the group, and his bass is certainly shimmering there among other talented musicians. Though going hign and trebbled, he also stuck fine minimalistic low pulses f.ex. in "Sweet Dreams"
Pekka Pohjola; Though his whole solo career works were not total match to my tastes, his first record and live blasts in Wigwam are awesome; fast, aggressive, imaginative
Jon Camp; In addition of lovely singer and fine classical / folk oriented song repertoire Renaissance had a really talented bass player
Jan Erik Liljeström; From Anekdoten, started out with heavier, fuzz tones, and moved to rounder warmer tones. Great rhythms and supports the songs well, creating fundamental content to the overall performance
Lemmy; Hey, he's got style and approach, in Hawkwind and in Motörhead, good distorded sound and strongly front
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Eetu Pellonpaa
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Posted: August 04 2009 at 14:20 | |
Shane Embury?
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avalanchemaster
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Posted: August 05 2009 at 12:18 | |
Avishai Cohen:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KTSOADcHQDY&feature=related Michael Manring: (it's all about technique and emotion) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aY4Ra2KOyas&feature=PlayList&p=762F2C98F9394D51&index=0 Jeff Corallini: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vAalqCpqCA&feature=PlayList&p=B9C0EC6C7CD23B18&index=9 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtimtnobOR0&feature=related there's a few for now.... lesser known guys. I feel that a lot of guys get well known being in big bands, but I don't think they deserve the accolades they receive. Anybody with enough time and theoretical knowledge can become decent at bass, but it takes a true virtuoso to blow me away.... at bass. |
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Tull Freak
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Posted: August 11 2009 at 09:05 | |
Does anyone else here think Geezer Butler was (and still is) one of the best bass players out there. I know he's not from a very proggy band but his presence can definitely be heard on Sabbath's first album. Also, he wrote quite a lot of Sabbath best songs.
I agree that Roger Waters wasn't a good bass player but who cares when he was that good a songwriter. Also, John Glascock was quite good (and entertaining on stage). |
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mrgd
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Posted: August 12 2009 at 22:23 | |
Have just scrolled through to see if anyone mentioned John Glascock, and there it is on the last post.
Because we are talking Prog and not fusion which opens up a completely new ball game where Jaco is next to God [sadly], here are some, perhaps more obscure ones who I don't think have been mentioned. Dave Pegges work with TULL was good esp. his introduction of fretless and no mention of Glenn Cornick to date, as far as I can see, which is odd. Other Johns are John Giblin and John G. Perry who also played a tasty Wal custom for Caravan, Quantum Jump and others. Also Mike Wedgwood is underrated at least for his work with Curved Air [ the great ' Air Cut'] and also Caravan e.g. on ' Blind Dog....'. Pete Farrelly of 'Fruupp', seldom mentioned but quite choppy as well as melodic rates, as well as Trevor Williams of ' Audience' who combines extaordinarily well with Tony Connor on drums in a raw and very energetic way - the latter unfotunately left them for fame n fortune with ' Hot Chocolate' of all things. These are all worthy . I'll see if I can come up with some more. |
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Looking still the same after all these years...
mrgd |
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Icarium
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Posted: August 13 2009 at 17:25 | |
I hate to repeat my self but i have to
my favorite bass player is DEE MURRAY his playing is so underrated (maybe becouse hie a bit overshadowd by Elton John, Davy Johnstone and Niegel Olsson) but his bass work on Dont Shoot me im only the Piano player, Goodbye yellowbrick road and Captain Fantastic and BC. is superb. he inspired me to pick upp the bass guitar when i first noticed the bass lines i was totaly awstruck his best bass work ar on Daniel, Nikita (the best fretless work i have heard), Eldeberry Wine, Ballad of Danny Baily and Gray Seel. Edited by aginor - August 13 2009 at 17:29 |
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mrgd
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Posted: August 13 2009 at 19:08 | |
TO AGINOR :
I'll have a closer listen to DEE MURRAY , as suggested . I do remember the fretless on ' Nikita ' as fretless bass is also one of my passions as a player and avid listener. I will check it out, but it's a big call to suggest the work on ' Nikita ' is the ' best fretless work I have heard ' . As a bass enthusiast , I expect you've heard plenty and you obviously feel strongly about Dee's playing. From my memory of that pleasant and tasteful playing on ' Nikita ', I could never line it up with the work of the likes of JACO, JEFF BERLIN , PERCY JONES, MARK EGAN or even PINO PALLADINO or MICK KARN on fretless for that matter although I concede you are talking about playing in more of a pop music idiom . I also rank JONAS REINGOLD, who has been mentioned already , as a great fretless exponent in prog.today. A really tasty fretless player from the US is TIM LANDERS who played with Ian Wallaces CRIMSON JAZZ TRIO [ CJ3 ] who you can read about right here on PA. I should also reiterate that in my previous post I was searching for the lesser knowns with talent who were yet to be mentioned . There are still heaps out there worthy of mention I'm sure. |
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Looking still the same after all these years...
mrgd |
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J-Man
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Posted: August 13 2009 at 19:23 | |
I'm surprised I never saw this thread!
My top 5 bassists are: Chris Squire Dave Meros Jonas Reingold Mike Rutherford Geddy Lee You'll notice all (except Geddy Lee) of my favorite bassists are from symphonic prog bands. The basslines always seem to ammuse me in symphonic prog for some reason, whereas basslines in prog metal (my favorite prog genre) usually don't ammuse me as much. |
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E-Dub
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Posted: August 13 2009 at 20:01 | |
Pete Trewavas doesn't get the recognition for being a great bassist. Not flashy, but solid foundation.
Probably my favorite bassist is not even part of a prog band. It's Mark King of Level 42. The man is just simply amazing. E Edited by E-Dub - August 13 2009 at 20:01 |
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mrgd
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Posted: August 13 2009 at 20:33 | |
TO E-DUB :
Agree 100% about MARK KING - and the guy sings lead as well. Few can achieve this as either the standard of the singing or the playing or both , slip . Not so with MARK as evidenced on the live recordings. I'm sure you'd know that JAKKO JAKSZYK joined LEVEL 42 [ I'm really pointing this out for the benefit of others ] on guitar and their association has continued with MARK guesting on a couple of tracks on JAKKO's ' Bruised Romantic Glee Club ' . His playing on ' Catley's Ashes ' on the first disc is just A1 . I wish he'd played on all of the tracks , other than Danny Thompsons contributions on double bass, of course. Great to hear his playing on such a good Canterbury infused song - hopefully there'll be a lot more in the future between these two . |
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Looking still the same after all these years...
mrgd |
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rogerthat
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Posted: August 13 2009 at 20:57 | |
Freaking too many, come to think, there are plenty of amazing bassists in prog...maybe it's got to do with that they can do something other than beefing up the riffs as in heavy metal! Off the top of my head: Squire, Wetton, Rutherford, Shulman, Lake, Camp, Lee, Richard Sinclair, Mike Howlett, Jannick Top, Holger Czukay...will stop here for now. Oh, and Trewavas and Myung from a bit later in the day. My favourite bass playing though would have to be Percy Jones's performance on Brand X's Nuclear Burn.
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moe_blunts
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Posted: August 13 2009 at 20:59 | |
Claypool does it for me. His latest album is awesome! Very reminiscent of The Residents.
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himtroy
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Posted: August 13 2009 at 21:18 | |
I've always been a big Hugh Hopper fan. I love his tone, as well as his style all together
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Tengent
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Posted: August 15 2009 at 19:41 | |
My personal favorites.. John Paul Jones
Billy Sheehan
John Myung (though I don't like Dream Theater too much)
Dave LaRue
Geezer Butler
Mont Campbell
Ray Shulman
Glenn Cornick
John Wetton
Geddy Lee
Hugh Hopper
Stanley Clarke
Geddy Lee
Chris Squire
I'm confident I'm leaving a few out.
EDIT: Yeah.. I forgot to mention Jaco Pastorious and John Entwistle. Edited by Tengent - August 15 2009 at 19:42 |
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