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Jim Garten
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Posted: August 05 2009 at 02:12 |
I sympathise with those outside of the UK who have to pay extortionate prices for the magazine (NZ$35?? ), but the price we pay in the UK is the average for a specialist music mag.
If it's the case that only a UK publisher is producing such a magazine, that's a shame - we Brits would have to pay a similarly ridiculous price if it were published in say the USA alone...
As far as the CD is concerned, it's the usual policy for Classic Rock to give away (however you define the word 'free') CDs with a couple of known artists & a slew of unknowns to give the new bands exposure. On the back of the latest CD I bought the Astra album 'The Weirding' (excellent), but unfortunately have been unable to track down any releases from Haken.
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Sean Trane
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Posted: August 05 2009 at 05:10 |
I don't think CR gets much of the extra money forked over by the international readers.... it's mostly the intermediary press exports taking their shares
There is no justifications that CR doubles its £ price in €, just by crossing the channel , especially with nthe ££££ being almost on par with €€€€€
On top of it, we geta slew of unwanted clothes catalogue and a bunch of idiotic lotery tickets tha we can't win, since we're nit UK citizens.
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AtomicCrimsonRush
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Posted: August 06 2009 at 01:07 |
Jim Garten wrote:
I sympathise with those outside of the UK who have to pay extortionate prices for the magazine (NZ$35?? ), but the price we pay in the UK is the average for a specialist music mag.
If it's the case that only a UK publisher is producing such a magazine, that's a shame - we Brits would have to pay a similarly ridiculous price if it were published in say the USA alone...
As far as the CD is concerned, it's the usual policy for Classic Rock to give away (however you define the word 'free') CDs with a couple of known artists & a slew of unknowns to give the new bands exposure. On the back of the latest CD I bought the Astra album 'The Weirding' (excellent), but unfortunately have been unable to track down any releases from Haken. |
IN Australia the mag costs $19.95. I admittedly would not have bought it only as far as I am concerned any prog is good prog and a mag based soley on prog is bliss! The CD in issue 1 is still awesome I believe but CD2 looks a little on the ordinary side. I hope its just teething problems in its early stages but this mag has enormous potential. But I agree that CD is not 'free' - its an incentive but its not free.
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Green Shield Stamp
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Posted: August 06 2009 at 13:42 |
I now have my copy of the third issue of the magazine. This month the focus is more towards prog metal with pretty thorough features on Opeth, Tool, Queensryche, Voivod and Symphony X. There are lengthy articles on Rush and Steve Hackett. Other featured artists also include Porcupine Tree, Marillion. There are interesting items on Italian Prog and the Vertigo record label.
I know it's pricey but where else would you get all of this?
I haven't heard the cover-mount CD yet, but it contains an exclusive from Porcupine Tree's forthcoming new album 'The Incident' and a track from 'Pure' by Pendragon.
The next issue is out on 30th September.
Edited by Green Shield Stamp - August 06 2009 at 13:44
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Jim Garten
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Posted: August 07 2009 at 02:03 |
Got the third issue yesterday too - only had a brief glance though thus far, but in addition to all the above, there's a small article on our very own Tinyfish (incidentally, even the sister magazine Classic Rock is pipping Tinyfish for big things )
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Wilcey
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Posted: August 07 2009 at 02:05 |
Darn fine publication, I am currently in the queue waiting patiently for my turn to read it, but I thought the CD was pretty well great! Love the new PT track!
W x
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lazland
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Posted: August 07 2009 at 14:19 |
Buy it - it's great. Thoroughly good articles and interviews, and it is especially nice to see the Italian Prog piece, plus a very rare Ant Phillips interview. Worth every penny.
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crimhead
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Posted: August 09 2009 at 13:11 |
Jim Garten wrote:
Got the third issue yesterday too - only had a brief glance though thus far, but in addition to all the above, there's a small article on our very own Tinyfish (incidentally, even the sister magazine Classic Rock is pipping Tinyfish for big things ) |
How is the CD in issue 3?
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lazland
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Posted: August 10 2009 at 13:36 |
crimhead wrote:
Jim Garten wrote:
Got the third issue yesterday too - only had a brief glance though thus far, but in addition to all the above, there's a small article on our very own Tinyfish (incidentally, even the sister magazine Classic Rock is pipping Tinyfish for big things ) |
How is the CD in issue 3?
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Good. Track list is: Pendragon - Indigo Konchordat - Motion Breathing Space - Clear The Wishing Tree - Hollow Hills Darwin's Radio - Breathe It In Knifeworld - The Wretched Fathoms Porcupine Tree - Time Flies (Edit) The Resonance Association - The Moment Has Passed
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toroddfuglesteg
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Posted: August 10 2009 at 14:09 |
Prog Metal........... I think I will give that a miss due to some tax bills which requires my full attention.
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Posted: August 11 2009 at 10:44 |
Jim Garten wrote:
I sympathise with those outside of the UK who have to pay extortionate prices for the magazine (NZ$35?? ), but the price we pay in the UK is the average for a specialist music mag.
If it's the case that only a UK publisher is producing such a magazine, that's a shame - we Brits would have to pay a similarly ridiculous price if it were published in say the USA alone...
As far as the CD is concerned, it's the usual policy for Classic Rock to give away (however you define the word 'free') CDs with a couple of known artists & a slew of unknowns to give the new bands exposure. On the back of the latest CD I bought the Astra album 'The Weirding' (excellent), but unfortunately have been unable to track down any releases from Haken. |
Haken are recording their debut album in August and September and it will be released in January 2010.
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Jim Garten
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Posted: August 11 2009 at 11:11 |
Many thanks ... only 6 months to wait then
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Jim Garten
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Posted: August 11 2009 at 11:12 |
toroddfuglesteg wrote:
Prog Metal........... I think I will give that a miss due to some tax bills which requires my full attention.
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Don't let that put you off - there's only really a couple of articles on Prog Metal (and the one on Opeth is very much worth reading); the main article is one on Rush (who they consider to be the godfathers of PM)
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Posted: August 12 2009 at 06:13 |
Jim Garten wrote:
Got the third issue yesterday too - only had a brief glance though thus far, but in addition to all the above, there's a small article on our very own Tinyfish (incidentally, even the sister magazine Classic Rock is pipping Tinyfish for big things ) |
Cool, I really need to get this but I've not seen it anywhere. Where did you get yours from Jim?
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toroddfuglesteg
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Posted: August 12 2009 at 08:30 |
Thanx. The Italian scene report and the feature on my alltime favorite band (Rush !!) means I will dress up as a fox and play my bagpipe later today at the local railway station. The collected money should get me a copy of this issue. I got the Classic Rock magazine from my postman earlier today, btw.
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Jim Garten
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Posted: August 12 2009 at 11:06 |
Jim Garten wrote:
As far as the CD is concerned, it's the usual policy for Classic Rock to give away (however you define the word 'free') CDs with a couple of known artists & a slew of unknowns to give the new bands exposure. |
Correction - I now have it on good authority that bands have to pay to get their tracks on free CDs given away with music mags... Personally I think this is outrageous, but hey - just call me naive.
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toroddfuglesteg
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Posted: August 12 2009 at 12:19 |
This has been the norm for the last 20 years, Jim. Several record labels made a good profit of doing this years ago. That was before it was normal to include a free CD with music magazines. It is called business and it is still a business as long as anyone agrees to pay. I remember I paid 1500 DMs (that's Euros today) for one track on a CD our German distributor gave away and even sold to their customers. That was back in 1995.
Edited by toroddfuglesteg - August 12 2009 at 12:22
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lazland
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Posted: August 12 2009 at 13:33 |
toroddfuglesteg wrote:
This has been the norm for the last 20 years, Jim. Several record labels made a good profit of doing this years ago. That was before it was normal to include a free CD with music magazines. It is called business and it is still a business as long as anyone agrees to pay. I remember I paid 1500 DMs (that's Euros today) for one track on a CD our German distributor gave away and even sold to their customers. That was back in 1995.
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I wasn't aware that this was standard industry practice, although nothing really surprises me these days. Having said that, it is a good way of bringing your music to the masses. CR, in a very early issue, included a Judie Tzuke track called Bully from the Secret Agent album. I had not heard her for years, and was blown away by this incredible piece of music. I went on her website immediately and ordered the album, and have brought most of her work subsequently. So she definitely had one extra customer that would never had purchased otherwise.
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AtomicCrimsonRush
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Posted: November 02 2009 at 18:36 |
Tha newsagent keeps me acopy every time it comes out and this time the mag has excelled beyond expectations with a huge article of Rush, Italian prog such as PFM, Tarja features and a wonderful disk featuring:
Pendragon - Indigo Konchordat - Motion Breathing Space - Clear The Wishing Tree - Hollow Hills Darwin's Radio - Breathe It In Knifeworld - The Wretched Fathoms Porcupine Tree - Time Flies (Edit) The Resonance Association - The Moment Has Passed
All very good tracks especially Pendragon and PTree
Thoroughly recommend this awesome mag. Pricey but its quarterly so you have heaps of time in between issues to save. Theres a great section on non prog albums and it features The Elder by Kiss which I have always hailed as prog myself, and its nice some would agree. The articles on The Butterfly Effect, Australian prog - YES! - altho not deemed prog here at PA (!). I knew they were prog from the moment I heard them.
Great section too on Jeff Waynes War of the Worlds. one of the best!
The metal section is not overwhelming but its great the mag concentrates on all areas of prog, not just one section.
Looking fwd to the next one soon!
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Wilcey
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Posted: November 03 2009 at 15:10 |
Wow, it's good to hear it's getting into newsagents down under! (and with the CD too, sometimes the extra bits and pieces don't get included with the exported mags. The next issue in the UK is due Nov 25th. Wx
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