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The bolded statement was trying to draw a parallel with the idea that you don't like the Judas songs coz of the albums that they're on despite the fact that they are great tracks. So, to me it's like saying that someone doesn't like "Fading Lights" coz he hates the whole album despite the fact that FL is a great track. So, let me get this right........ You're a Flower Kings fan but you don't like the albums "World of Adventures" or "Retropolis" and so therefore you don't like these tracks: Back In The World of Adventures Atomic Prince / Kaleidoscope Go West Judas Theme For A Hero Big Puzzle Retropolis There Is More To This World The Judas Kiss Flora Majora The Road Back Home etc These, in my honest opinion, are quintessential Flower Kings tracks and you're saying that you don't like any of them coz of the album they're on? I really can't get my head around that. |
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The Quiet One
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Didn't understand the (bolded) statement. What I said was, I'm not a big fan of those 2 albums(all songs count) so you won't expect much love from me on any song. And btw, I love We Can't Dance. So there! |
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What a strange comment. That's like saying you don't like, I dunno, "Fading Lights" coz of the album it's on. Those 2 tracks are fabulous in their own right (as are the albums I might add). So there! |
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The Quiet One
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You must know that I'm not big fan of those 2 albums that the Judas songs are in, so they won't get any love from me... |
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infandous
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Both Judas songs are great, and I especially enjoy the Alive On Planet Earth version of Judas Kiss (15 minutes long!). Last night, a friend asked me to play him some Flower Kings (he hadn't heard any). So naturally I chose Just This Once (probably my second favorite FK song). I realized it is pretty much everything I love about the band condensed into just under 8 minutes. It's got quirkyness, jazziness, a fantastic guitar solo, great vocals and lyrics by Stolt, lovely melodies, and a slowed down symphonic beauty of an ending. I didn't have time to play him an epic, which I would have preferred, so I'll save that for next time. He thought the song was "weird", and because of that said "I see why you like this band" He played bass in my college prog band, and helped with the writing of our "magnum opus"......a 10 mintue energetic piece with 5 sections. He also wrote a very cool bass driven prog song of his own (the only song he ever wrote actually) while in that band. He now plays for an 80's and 90's top 40 cover band and makes more money doing that than I do at my computer programming job He got tired of playing "difficult" music. However, he has said he wouldn't mind laying down bass for some of my originals (and he IS a fantastic bass player, even if he is a lazy one ) Anyway, he seemed to like the kings. He does still enjoy listening to "difficult" music, even if he isn't all that interested in playing it (he likes Dream Theater and Tool). |
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^ Yeah really, Page 28, that's pretty impressive for a band appreciation thread. We've almost formed a little community within a community. I've noticed a batch of appreciation threads popping up left and right lately. I don't know if we've inspired any of them, but I can only think that the repertoire that we've developed over the last half year would be an example of what an appreciation thread can become. Kudos to us all.
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Some great songs are mentioned on this page like Church of your Heart and Serious Dreamers !
But nobody ever mentions the two Judas songs: Judas Kiss and Go West Judas which are both more than excellent to me. Is this because it's about traitor Judas or are they just not considered great ??
^ I should say last page because we're on page 28 !! Edited by progrules - July 28 2009 at 04:03 |
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^ Hey welcome to the boards Fizzeler, and if I do say so myself, what a great place to start.
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Yes TFK has some great flow in their albums I can't just play one song it is either a full album or a couple epics by them which eventually leads to an album listen truly a great band
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My dream setlist:
One More Time
Monsters and Men
The Truth Will Set You Free
Last Minute On Earth
Minor Giant Steps
I Am The Sun
Encore: Stardust We Are
Although I do think the setlist for the "Meet the Flower Kings" DVD is pretty awesome as it is. One of my favorite concert DVDs that I own.
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Oooh, great set list. though I'd personally have included "Serious Dreamers" on the list as well, the set would still be under two hours (before the encores). I think that would be my current wish list if I threw "Minor Giant Steps" in as well.
Great list. |
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Actually, Michael Stolt played very little on the albums he is credited on. Most of the bass work was done by Roine (this was revealed not long after Michael left the band......I read it on the flower Kings yahoo group from Roine himself, but he may have mentioned it in interviews as well). Michael was mostly just the touring bass player. And I couldn't tell you which bass parts are by him and which by Roine, only that Roine stated that "most" of them were by himself. But I agree for the most part with your other comments. I Am The Sun is not my favorite FK track, but is great one.........I recall back in 2002 Roine was asking people on the FK yahoo group to give him their dream set list so he and the band could consider what to play on the upcoming tour (first one with Zoltan, incedentally). My dream set list was: Garden of Dreams (complete) I Am The Sun (complete) Stardust We Are (complete) encores: Just This Once, Retropolis A nice 2 hour + set, don't you think? (Unfold had not been released yet, or I might have added one of the epics from there). Much to my delight they actually DID use two of my suggestions on that tour (even if GoD was edited down to 45 minutes or so, and Stardust was missing a bit of the studio version ending.......but both had added exteneded solos). Gus |
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Awaken is probably my no.2 all time track, so I completely agree.
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It's my all-time favourite too so you're in good company .
On to the drummers question. I really think the Salazar/Michael Stolt combo was brilliant and just perfect for those early albums. Just listen to both of them on Stardust We Are and Flower Power - awesome!! And Tom, how about Jaime's drum solo - IKEA By Night - magnificent.
I have to admit Corsz is probably the better drummer technically, but no complaints whatsoever about Salazar, he's great too.
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It's definitely in my top 3 Flower Kings tracks. In fact, Part 2 is probably my single favourite piece of music from the last 10 years or so. The ending is the best piece of powerful, orgasmic, symphonic prog since the likes of "Awaken" and "Supper's Ready". |
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Eh, I came to a realization today. I'm ready to anoint "I am the Sun" as my all time favorite song, edging "Dance on a Volcano" out of my top spot after a run of something like twenty years.
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Any band that Daniel Gildenlow would consider being a member of for even a year must be pretty damn good.
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Just having a quick blast of Church of your Heart before I take my son to bed for his stories. Does it really get any better than this????
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^exactly what he said
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Zoltan is a far better drummer than Portnoy.....or Salazar. But they all have different styles. In some ways I think Salazar's style suited TFK better, but I just love listening to Zoltan play.
However, if you had Portnoy and Zoltan both playing Dream Theater tunes, Portnoy would be the far better drummer...........and not because he helped write the tunes in the first place, but because his style is perfect for prog metal. I just think that in terms of technique and versatiltiy, Zoltan is the best of the 3 without question. |
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