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J-Man
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Garden of Dreams is probably the best TFK epic, but Silent Inferno is very good as well.
I figured I'd only mention 20+ minute epics from Unfold the Future |
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Hey Nate,
Great review of "The Sum of No Evil" by the way, I meant to drop that yesterday but ran out of time with all of the craziness. By the way Henk, you do have a valid point, on your post this morning. I haven't quite come up with a good middle line response, I'll put some more thought into it tonight. |
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The Quiet One
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another question......
Zoltan Csörsz or Jaime Salazar? |
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Tough question, Pablo. I should decide soon.
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The Quiet One
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For me it's definitely Zoltan, amazing drummer, I dare to say he's in for a fair match against Portnoy, if more people knew Zoltan of course...
His playing on Unfold the Future and Who's The Boss in the Factory is outstanding, love his jazz sensibilites. |
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I think Zoltan's drumming on Unfold the Future is excellent (not quite Portnoy, but that's a different argument).
Salazar has some great stuff behind him as well. I think they are about even in terms of skill, but I prefer Zoltan's style by a small amount. Edited by progrocker2244 - July 24 2009 at 12:59 |
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Thanks! And as for the question "Zoltan Csörsz or Jaime Salazar?" I would have to go with... Zoltan! One of my favorite drummers of all time. His work on "Sum of No Evil" is awesome! Edited by natewait - July 24 2009 at 13:06 |
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Zoltan is a far better drummer than Portnoy.....or Salazar. But they all have different styles. In some ways I think Salazar's style suited TFK better, but I just love listening to Zoltan play.
However, if you had Portnoy and Zoltan both playing Dream Theater tunes, Portnoy would be the far better drummer...........and not because he helped write the tunes in the first place, but because his style is perfect for prog metal. I just think that in terms of technique and versatiltiy, Zoltan is the best of the 3 without question. |
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^exactly what he said
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Just having a quick blast of Church of your Heart before I take my son to bed for his stories. Does it really get any better than this????
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Any band that Daniel Gildenlow would consider being a member of for even a year must be pretty damn good.
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Eh, I came to a realization today. I'm ready to anoint "I am the Sun" as my all time favorite song, edging "Dance on a Volcano" out of my top spot after a run of something like twenty years.
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It's definitely in my top 3 Flower Kings tracks. In fact, Part 2 is probably my single favourite piece of music from the last 10 years or so. The ending is the best piece of powerful, orgasmic, symphonic prog since the likes of "Awaken" and "Supper's Ready". |
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It's my all-time favourite too so you're in good company .
On to the drummers question. I really think the Salazar/Michael Stolt combo was brilliant and just perfect for those early albums. Just listen to both of them on Stardust We Are and Flower Power - awesome!! And Tom, how about Jaime's drum solo - IKEA By Night - magnificent.
I have to admit Corsz is probably the better drummer technically, but no complaints whatsoever about Salazar, he's great too.
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Awaken is probably my no.2 all time track, so I completely agree.
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Actually, Michael Stolt played very little on the albums he is credited on. Most of the bass work was done by Roine (this was revealed not long after Michael left the band......I read it on the flower Kings yahoo group from Roine himself, but he may have mentioned it in interviews as well). Michael was mostly just the touring bass player. And I couldn't tell you which bass parts are by him and which by Roine, only that Roine stated that "most" of them were by himself. But I agree for the most part with your other comments. I Am The Sun is not my favorite FK track, but is great one.........I recall back in 2002 Roine was asking people on the FK yahoo group to give him their dream set list so he and the band could consider what to play on the upcoming tour (first one with Zoltan, incedentally). My dream set list was: Garden of Dreams (complete) I Am The Sun (complete) Stardust We Are (complete) encores: Just This Once, Retropolis A nice 2 hour + set, don't you think? (Unfold had not been released yet, or I might have added one of the epics from there). Much to my delight they actually DID use two of my suggestions on that tour (even if GoD was edited down to 45 minutes or so, and Stardust was missing a bit of the studio version ending.......but both had added exteneded solos). Gus |
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Oooh, great set list. though I'd personally have included "Serious Dreamers" on the list as well, the set would still be under two hours (before the encores). I think that would be my current wish list if I threw "Minor Giant Steps" in as well.
Great list. |
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My dream setlist:
One More Time
Monsters and Men
The Truth Will Set You Free
Last Minute On Earth
Minor Giant Steps
I Am The Sun
Encore: Stardust We Are
Although I do think the setlist for the "Meet the Flower Kings" DVD is pretty awesome as it is. One of my favorite concert DVDs that I own.
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Yes TFK has some great flow in their albums I can't just play one song it is either a full album or a couple epics by them which eventually leads to an album listen truly a great band
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^ Hey welcome to the boards Fizzeler, and if I do say so myself, what a great place to start.
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