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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 24 2009 at 15:42
Once we get you on to our continent your mind will change. Evil Smile
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 24 2009 at 15:43
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 24 2009 at 19:05
I am a huge fan of Neal Morse. I agree that ?, despite being a serious contender for Worst Album Title Ever Award, if there were one, is incredible. XII is my favourite track, while Neal is a fantastic guitarist you just do not get better than Steve Hackett, and his contribution to the album is incredible. I also think that it's the one album that is the most coherent and that manages to remain compelling throughout. SS is awesome but the ending was way too dragged out, I felt he could have lopped off about ten minutes of The Conclusion. That's my general complaint with all of his music, he usually tries to maintain the Big Epic Finale (or climax, if you'd prefer, with all the sexual jokes that entail) for far too long. ? was the closest he came.

I'm actually not a big fan of One. It's an okay album, but nothing on it after The Seperated Man really grabbed my interest, and I found parts of it (specifically bits in The Creation) exceeded my cheese limit.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 24 2009 at 21:03
Whenever somebody has a 'Pick your favorite Neal Morse disc' (from Testimony on), I have such a hard time picking a favorite. With the exception of Lifeline, each disc has it's own personality and brilliance that just touches me. I love Testimony because that's when I was just getting back into prog and that disc had everything I was looking for. ? is an absolute masterpiece, though. Brilliant musicianship and arranging from beginning to end.

Sola Scriptura is quickly becoming a favorite, too. Primarily because of "The Conflict" and "The Conclusion". Much like "Supper's Ready", I love an epic that just has this triumphant climax that just rocks your soul. These two songs have that for me. Especially on "The Conclusion" during the "She's clothed with the sun..." It's just absolutely beautiful.

I'm just so happy that there's a future for Transatlantic. I like Lifeline OK, but I felt that Neal needed a shot in the arm to get that edge back. Hopefully this project will regain his focus. Much like Epignosis, I'm a Christian and really draw inspiration from his faith based lyrics, so that aspect of his work is something I enjoy. The formula was just getting tired with Lifeline.

As for Spock's Beard, I don't know where I lean on that. I've enjoyed his solo output so much that I tend to forget that he was in another band previously. It would be cool to see them get back together and perform Snow in it's entirety. Hopefully it happens.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 24 2009 at 21:33
I think Snow is the greatest double album ever released, and it would be very cool for Neal to team up with the Beard and play the album.

What do you guys think of Snow?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 24 2009 at 21:40
Snow is one of my top five albums of all time. The first time I heard it when I was first getting into Spock's Beard was magical and I instantly fell in love with it. I think it is in the same league as other double album concept albums such as The Lamb and The Wall.

It would be incredible if Neal performed this with the Beard. If there was a performance of this in the States, I would travel practically anywhere to see it. I feel the same way about Neal performing with Transatlantic, which could happen with the release of a new album.

I got into Spock's Beard and Transatlantic shortly after Neal left both bands and was devastated that I would never be able to see them live. I would be thrilled beyond belief if I could see either band live with Neal.

But, yeah, Snow is awesome and I never get tired of it. It is the beginning of Neal's incredible run of concept albums that goes all the way until Sola Scriptura. Brilliant stuff!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 24 2009 at 21:45
Originally posted by progrocker2244 progrocker2244 wrote:

I think Snow is the greatest double album ever released, and it would be very cool for Neal to team up with the Beard and play the album.

What do you guys think of Snow?


Far and away my favorite Beard disc. I still don't quite understand the "Ladies and Gentlemen, Ryo..." section because it's so out of place; however, it's a brilliant album. Actually one of my favorite prog discs, too.

It's such a shame that they never toured behind it.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 02 2009 at 06:04
Snow vs. Testimony??Confused

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 02 2009 at 06:08
Actually, for me that is a fairly easy question. Snow is easily 5 stars, and Testimony is between a 3 or 4 (rounded up to a 4 btw)

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 02 2009 at 06:12
While Snow is a good album, there's nothing that equal the quality of the album V with the great epic songs. My favorite Neal Morse solo is Testimony follow by ?. For some reasons, i had troubled to get in his 2 latests cds. Don't know why...Confused
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 02 2009 at 06:13
Originally posted by Dalezilla Dalezilla wrote:

Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

I'm thinking that the people that are the most active posters in the Flower Kings Appreciation thread will be the most active in this thread too.  I know that it is not 100%, and as soon as I post this the next 10 people will dispute it, but I think that there is an excellent chance that if you are a fan of the Flower Kings, you are also a fan of Spock's Beard, and most likely therefore, Neal Morse.  Although each band is unique in their own rights, to me at least, they are the two most similar of the new era prog bands, and I find it hard to believe that you can't like one band without liking the other. 



I love Neal Morse, but hate the Flower Kings. (love and hate being exaggarations, but you get my point. Wink)


Same for me! I like first Flower Kings albums but I can't listen to the last ones anymore, too much for me. But I'm a huge Neal Morse fan!! And I really like the fact that he records at home, that he does the drum parts for his demos, that kind of stuff. And making of videos are great!!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 02 2009 at 08:00
Originally posted by progrocker2244 progrocker2244 wrote:

Snow vs. Testimony??Confused


My goodness, this is a tough one. Probably Snow....but by a thin margin.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 02 2009 at 13:03
By the way, today is Neal's 49th bday!

Happy birthday Neal!

In honor of his birthday I wrote a 5 star review for ?-
http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=229608

What do you guys think?Wink

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 02 2009 at 13:05
YES!!!! After my review ? went into the top 100 at spot #97!!!!!!

That's my birthday present for NealEmbarrassed

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 02 2009 at 19:51
Originally posted by E-Dub E-Dub wrote:

Originally posted by progrocker2244 progrocker2244 wrote:

I think Snow is the greatest double album ever released, and it would be very cool for Neal to team up with the Beard and play the album.

What do you guys think of Snow?


Far and away my favorite Beard disc. I still don't quite understand the "Ladies and Gentlemen, Ryo..." section because it's so out of place; however, it's a brilliant album. Actually one of my favorite prog discs, too.

It's such a shame that they never toured behind it.

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Agreed about "Snow" I absolutely love it and gave it a five star review.

I never thought the "Ladies and Gentlemen, Mister Ryo . . . " was out of place, here's my interpretation . . .

At the end of "Devil's Got My Throat [Revisited]" Snow's pretty much had it and get's grabbed by a gang of party goers for a night on the town in "Snow's Night Out".  In the midst of their club hopping, Mister Ryo Okumoto is playing at a club that they go to.  Seeing "Ryo" perform was always just part of Snow's night on the town, with the tongue in cheek bit being that they choose their own keyboard player's name as the person playing at the club.



 . . . and some of my other thoughts on the thread:


  • Yes, Neal Morse is an amazing songwriter.
  • Agreed, Lifeline is probably his weakest work
  • Neal's music is good enough that it transcends religion.  I'm not overly religious, though I love his work.
  • ? is a fantastic album and yes, the solo by Steve Hackett is one of the more hair raising solos of the decade.
  • Yes, I would go just about anywhere to see Spock's Beard play "Snow".  I find it sad that the Beard always seems to ignore that album in concert.  I haven't seen anything from Snow the time that I saw them or on any of the live DVD's / CD's that I've seen playlists for.
  • Seeing Neal reunite with the Beard to play "The Light" at 3RP was one of the highlights of my concertgoing career.
  • I was equally disappointed that I didn't see anything from ? during his 3RP set.
  • And in the Snow vs Testimony informal poll, Snow easily.  Snow is my favorite CD that Neal was involved in (of what I've heard at least, I don't have any of his non-prog solo work).
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 02 2009 at 19:59
Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

Originally posted by progrocker2244 progrocker2244 wrote:

Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

I'm thinking that the people that are the most active posters in the Flower Kings Appreciation thread will be the most active in this thread too.  I know that it is not 100%, and as soon as I post this the next 10 people will dispute it, but I think that there is an excellent chance that if you are a fan of the Flower Kings, you are also a fan of Spock's Beard, and most likely therefore, Neal Morse.  Although each band is unique in their own rights, to me at least, they are the two most similar of the new era prog bands, and I find it hard to believe that you can't like one band without liking the other. 



I agree. Spock's Beard and The Flower Kings tend to go hand in hand. Transatlantic was the connecting link for most people. I discovered TA from Neal, and then I became a Flower Kings fan because of Roine.

The music doesn't sound even remotely the same, but they tend to have the same general fanbase.
Yep.  For me, it was Dream Theater and Mike Portnoy.  His being in Transatlantic led me to track down The Flower Kings, Spock's Beard, and Marillion.  I wasn't familiar with any of those bands prior to Transatlantic.  Spock's Beard CDs were fairly easy to find since they are a US band I could find their CDs in the brick and mortar stores.  I had to do some internet searching to find The Flower Kings and Marillion CDs.  I had never really bought any CDs from the internet before I started searching for their CDs.


I took a very similar route Scott.

My prog resurgence was initiated by a re-appreciation of both Genesis and Dream Theater.  iTunes figured that if I liked Dream Theater, I'd like Spock's Beard, The Flower Kings and Transatlantic.  I thought why not, and based on the iTunes reviews, picked up Snow (one review said that this was the place to start for Spock's Beard).  The rest as they say is history, I absolutely loved Snow, a week later, I found Retropolis by The Flower Kings in a used CD place and picked that up, loved it as well.  Since then, those two have risen to the ranks of my all time favorite bands with The Flower Kings currently tied with Genesis which is lofty praise. 

I avoided Neal's solo CD's for some time mostly because I'm not very religious.  I ended up hearing a suite of tracks from ? on the internet radio station that I was listening to at the time (The Dividing Line Broadcasting network) which pushed me to get over the prejeduce.  I picked up ? on iTunes and I think I listened to it in it's entirity about five times on that first night.  Amazing CD!  I'm not as fond of his other ones, though admittedly, I need to listen to "One" and "Testimony" a few more times to get a valid opinion of them.  Sola Scriptura is very good and Lifeline leaves a bit to be desired.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 03 2009 at 09:06
Testimony is my least favorite Neal Morse album aside from Lifeline. It's not as serious as his others, and I just find it to be too poppy at times, and none of the repeating themes grabbed me that much. It's still a 3 or 4 star album, but it isn't one of his masterpieces. One, on the other hand, is incredible.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 03 2009 at 09:37
Many months ago on Sunday morning I played and sang a ? medley in church, mainly featuring "The Temple of the Living God" and "Inside His Presence."

One white-haired woman was so touched she gave me fifty bucks.

But "Inside His Presence," biblically-speaking, is one of the greatest songs ever.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 03 2009 at 10:32
"Outside Looking In" has some very inspiring lyrics as well on that album.

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This guy is really underrated. Excellent musicianship. Loved ? and Sola Scriptura.
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