Flower Kings Appreciation Thread

Roland113 wrote: Hey Nate, Great review of "The Sum of No Evil" by the way, I meant to drop that yesterday but ran out of time with all of the craziness.

Thanks!

And as for the question "Zoltan Csörsz or Jaime Salazar?" I would have to go with...

Zoltan! One of my favorite drummers of all time. His work on "Sum of No Evil" is awesome!

Edited by natewait - July 24 2009 at 13:06

For me it's definitely Zoltan, amazing drummer, I dare to say he's in for a fair match against Portnoy, if more people knew Zoltan of course...

His playing on Unfold the Future and Who's The Boss in the Factory is outstanding, love his jazz sensibilites.

another question......

Zoltan Csörsz or Jaime Salazar?

Garden of Dreams is probably the best TFK epic, but Silent Inferno is very good as well.

I figured I'd only mention 20+ minute epics from Unfold the Future

progrocker2244 wrote: The Truth Will Set You Free or The Devil's Playground?

TheProgtologist wrote: Roland113 wrote: ^ I haven't been able to find Thud as of yet, is it a good one?  I love "The Shaming of the True" and "The Kaviar Sessions" though it is a bit on the disturbing side of things.   I can't believe you can't find Thud but have TSotT and The Kaviar Sessions.Both of those can be really hard to find,especially The Kaviar Sessions.Thud is relatively easy to get ahold of.   I have purchased all my KG albums with the exception of his Giraffe albums from his official site.   Don't know if you know it but his estate will be releasing two more albums of unreleased material in the same vein of Thud and one live Toy Matinee album.

I think there was an ex prog afficianado in my area, we have a local used CD store that I bought a bunch of CD's from when I first got onto my prog kick.  I don't know if he just dumped his collection and they sat there forever or what.  As I learned of new artists, I looked them up and often found them. 

I'll have to keep an eye out for the new ones once they're released, though sadly, money is a bit on the tight side and I have a few items ahead of KG on my list, unless I find a used deal on Amazon or here in Pittsburgh, it will be some time.

progrules wrote: Thanks for the supporting comments on my issue, guys. I appreciate it (and of course we are all very right with our comments) and I would like to state one more thing about the matter: read Sean Trane's review about Caravanserai by Santana. Now this is an album he likes a lot and suddenly he can write a real review. Besides this (but this is in fact an unfair statement of mine but I do want to say it) he wanted to give the album 6 stars. But if I compare that album with any TFK album, I feel Caravanserai is more of a pale one. (swallow that mr Chantraine !) Or in Rolands terms: I feel like I just scored a touchdown !

Afraid I disagree about Caravanserai, that album is a complete masterpiece and one of the finest albums I've ever heard........but it's no excuse for Hughes crappy FK reviews.  I agree with everyone's comments to the effect that it's fine if he feels they deserve a single star, but he needs to state his case and actually LISTEN to the entire albums more than once (and I don't get the sense he even listens to them once).  He does this in other reviews as well, which is a shame, because some of his reviews I've quite enjoyed reading and his musical tastes are not that far from mine aside from the obvious difference of TFK.

This is why I've reposted some of my old reviews under my unlinked name........because I wanted to clean them up, flesh them out, and make them decent reviews (as I did with most of my FK reviews).  He has always had the ability to update his reviews, and has done so, but only to placate the admins and not to add any substance to them.  We should take this up with the admins, seriously.

But as I said, I like a lot of his reviews and many of them are very informative (especially about bands from his native Belgium and from Canada where he spent most of his formative years).  It's a shame he can't remove them or give the albums more listens and give detailed explanations of why he doesn't like them.

I have written some one star reviews, but I try to explain my issues with the music and I always give an album 4 or 5 spins at an absolute minimum before I pass judgement (and if I can't get through an album even once, I don't review it).

. . . and kudos to Progrocker for bringing us back to a thread of discussion that The Flower Kings themselves would be more proud of.

Truth for me too. I think I'm getting a clue where this going...

^ The Truth!