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akamaisondufromage
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Posted: July 19 2009 at 07:47 |
Ponting's GONE!!!!!
Edited by akamaisondufromage - July 19 2009 at 07:50
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Posted: July 18 2009 at 17:39 |
Well no, hence why I said it could be a draw.  I still think we will win if the rain holds up.
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Posted: July 18 2009 at 16:55 |
James wrote:
It hurts to be successful? 
I expect Strauss to declare first thing... perhaps even before the game restarts. He could in theory let them come back on for 30 minutes (so Flintoff can get a 50!) but I doubt it.
Then we have what... two days to bowl you guys out?
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Do you think we can still win from that position, we are already over 500 hundred in the arrears. I suspect the other way Strauss will try and get another hundred up,he has the time and then it will be up to to us to chase a score of well over 600 on a pitch that is starting to break up.Rain will be the only issue for England( for once  ) Our bowlers really need to try and get some swing like Anderson has been getting which would make a difference. It was the swing bowling that seemed to rattle the batting in the team in 2005 as well.
Anyway I am pessimistic and good on England for making this interesting. As you might suspect for me this is the Holy Grail of cricket when you play the Ashes 
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Posted: July 18 2009 at 16:30 |
It hurts to be successful?  I expect Strauss to declare first thing... perhaps even before the game restarts. He could in theory let them come back on for 30 minutes (so Flintoff can get a 50!) but I doubt it. Then we have what... two days to bowl you guys out?
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Matthew T
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Posted: July 18 2009 at 16:26 |
I know, that is why it hurts for us Aussies 
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Posted: July 18 2009 at 16:17 |
By "we" do you mean England? England haven't won a test match at Lord's since 1934.  I predict a draw (due mostly to rain delays and an Aussie fightback).
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Posted: July 18 2009 at 15:55 |
Oh I nearly forgot, it is the Lords Test we are about to lose 
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Posted: July 18 2009 at 15:43 |
Man Erg wrote:
Interesting chat during the radio commentry today.
Angus Frazer was at a meeting somewhere recently when someone offered the proposition that leg-byes should no longer count as runs against the bowling side and should be taken out of the game all together.
My thought on this is to keep leg-byes in test cricket but in the shorter form of the game,take them away....
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That is interesting,my feelings are the same. I really do not want rule changes........there are not many things in this world where I have a conservative opinion but with Test cricket it should be left as is. As you may notice I am not really keen on the 3rd umpire. Who would want to umpire any major sport these days. Would Dickie Bird have made every one of his decisions correctly if we could slow them up and look at them for 5 minutes while he was lucky to have 0.1 of a second.
Anyway the game, Strauss has done the right approach to this and if we even draw it now it will be a miracle. Has Prior been getting coaching of Gilchrist  . My fav batsman on your side Mr Paul Collingwood  has made a another good contribution. You have us on Toast.
Well the boot is on the other foot for this series now and the team is not the same. The knives are begining to appear with the press here concerning Ponting's Captaincy already. The comment is normally..." if we lose this series it will be 3 out of the last 4" etc. It is a shame I know that you all would like nothing better to see him given the bums rush but credit where credit is due he is an amazing batsman and a wonderful cricketer but any captain could have won test series with Glen McGrath and Shane Warne in your attack.
I am still optimistic though for the series. After this hiding we will need to regroup and knuckledown to some tough Test cricket 
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Posted: July 18 2009 at 12:39 |
Interesting chat during the radio commentry today.
Angus Frazer was at a meeting somewhere recently when someone offered the proposition that leg-byes should no longer count as runs against the bowling side and should be taken out of the game all together.
My thought on this is to keep leg-byes in test cricket but in the shorter form of the game,take them away....
Edited by Man Erg - July 18 2009 at 12:41
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Do 'The Stanley' otherwise I'll thrash you with some rhubarb.
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Posted: July 18 2009 at 05:15 |
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Haha, brilliance
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Posted: July 18 2009 at 05:03 |

Nuff said!!  
(long way to go in this test yet though)
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Posted: July 17 2009 at 16:34 |
Looks like we have hit a bloody big pothole on the road to glory or you could also say we are up sh*t creek without a paddle Ponting face above says it all.
I really can't see us avoiding the Follow on and the question now is whether Strauss will make us and take the risk that we could make a big score. Also with rain predicted it would rob you of a win as it could fizzle out to a draw. If he takes the other option and gets England to bat again and try and get another 300 runs he would have a strangle hold on the match and then make us chase it.
Anyway we have our backs to the wall and the indignity of losing at Lords. Even my wife said Oh no and she is not a cricket fan 
I like games like this  . One other comment Ponting was out anyway LBW so you won't hear me moaniin" and also dodgy calls are part of cricket. Imagine how boring and sterile it will become if we use cameras for all decisions. All in all the umpires a do a good job and normally these things seem to balance out at the end of the series with contentious umpiring decisions.
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Posted: July 17 2009 at 12:42 |
What a face!!! 
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Posted: July 17 2009 at 12:30 |
2 wickets on the dreaded half-nelson (111).Cricket superstitions. Who belives in those eh?
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akamaisondufromage
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Posted: July 17 2009 at 12:22 |
Good God!! What's happening?
I daren't say anything!!
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Posted: July 16 2009 at 21:14 |
Twas a good toss to win at Lords. Aussies bowled poorly and some errors in the field . Give a team a chance and they'll make you pay . England has done just that .
Can Australia bat as well in their first innings as they did at Cardiff. I have my doubts.
Lets see what happens on day 2 with the Aussies bowling at the England tail. They'd want to do better than they did against the top order. It's gripping stuff.
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Looking still the same after all these years...
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Posted: July 16 2009 at 17:02 |
At work today so I've seen no play, just heard bits of radio commentary. I'll settle for that at the end of the day and I guess Australia will too. As Haddin's quoted on the BBC as saying: "Tomorrow's first session will be huge" Not dissimilar to end of Day One in the First Test - and very much all to play for
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Posted: July 16 2009 at 16:52 |
Bloody good match so far,something for all of us. I will admit the first 4 hours were not good for me but I bet you all enjoyed it  Strauss is still not out and England has broken the old record set in 1326, ooh sorry I meant 1926  ,
Also the bloke in the picture above..........we miss ya 
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Posted: July 15 2009 at 03:54 |
Matthew T wrote:
el dingo wrote:
Oh Lord it's Lords. We're more than slightly singed around the edges and we've not won a test against the Aussies there since... 1934
We really got away with it at Cardiff and fair play to Australia - I missed Saturday's play altogether and Sunday's paper didn't make good reading: diddly-squat-2 and all of Sunday to hang on. But we did, so bring it on. Just heard on the TV this am that Flintoff is in injury trouble again and Harmison and Onions have been drafted in.
PS Matthew, I thought your middle order was supposed to be weak? Weak  | Lords,if you pull it off and win, they should do away with the Queens Birthday and make that the Public Holiday instead. I hope you really put it up to us. As you all may notice a close series win or lose for Aust. is more important to me, makes interesting viewing.
After Collingwoods effort, that should give England confidence and to be honest bringing Harmison back is a good move as well. I have never seen Onions before so I can not comment.
Also Hauritz has had a little cosmetic surgery and now looks like this 
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That's not fair - that's one spectre from the recent past guaranteed to put the shazers right up us - just ask Mike Gatting!
I'd respond with images of Jardine & Larwood if I could be assed 
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Posted: July 14 2009 at 20:34 |
Frankly, if you don't know how to bowl to tail-enders and/or bowl the right bowlers to them , you don't deserve to win tests or the series.
This thread is sooooo polite it's almost sickening but I won't be the one to bring it down . All I'll say on the dreaded contoversial aspect of it is as follows :
1. The time wasting was blatant, not only in the dying throws of the test, but the day before when the Aussies were batting and the rain was on it's way . The regular bowling changes which then allowed meticulous and involved changes in field placements was deplorable .
2. It was all so blatant that Ponting could have said nothing, retain some dignity and let others raise the debate e.g. Nasser Hussain
3. His raising it was as facile as Strauss and others attempting to explain away the inexplicable. We all saw it Straussy . As Kevin R would say ' Fair shake of the sauce bottle'.
4. The umpires need to grow some balls and take control of time wasting and other on-field incidents firmly and decisively. Doctrove is embarassingly innocuous and indecisive and our old mate Aleem is marginally better.
5. The Aussies only have themselves to blame for letting England off the hook and it may prove very costly . The Aussies are not going to have 4 centurions in every test innings and some of the English batsmen will convert their good starts into big innings - no doubt.
As it is , jibing and banter about such things can only serve to spice up the series and it has. Bring on Lords and may the better team win, so long as they can bowl out the tail.
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Looking still the same after all these years...
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